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ElwoodCuse posted:I thought it came out a while ago that Facebook was counting as little as 5 seconds of autoplay or something as a "view" To be completely honest, what Facebook is shown to have done via those unsealed documents is an enormous amount of fraud when you consider how much of the Internet's advertising they control.
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Blindingly obvious at this point that there needs to be regulatory action against Facebook and Google on a massive scale, but there just isn't any political willpower to do so. Its utterly ridiculous that two companies effectively control so much of the media market.
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caveat emptor and all that if you want to trust facebook’s self reported engagement statistics and base your entire content platform on it that’s your right as a dumbshit american corpersonoration 
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The first of these was pretty lame, but this one's actually kind of funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AduypIwu18k
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Declan MacManus posted:caveat emptor and all that It's a good thing that the guys who made those decisions are the ones who are going to suffer and not all the guys who got fired.
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Oct 18, 2018 17:00
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It’s kinda crazy Facebook didn’t think counting 3 autoplaying seconds as a view wouldn’t come back to hurt them. Maybe they decided the gain they would get from doing that while growing would outweigh the fraud claims and penalties they pay up later.
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Oct 18, 2018 19:36
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advertising as a business model is fundamentally harmful not only to those who participate in it and are exposed to it but to society as a whole this post brought to you by MeUndies, enter promo code CHUNKLES at checkout to receive a free pair of underwear with your next order
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General Dog posted:The first of these was pretty lame, but this one's actually kind of funny The guy they got as their Ed Kemper is phenomenal.
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General Dog posted:The first of these was pretty lame, but this one's actually kind of funny i like this gimmick a lot
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chunkles posted:advertising as a business model is fundamentally harmful not only to those who participate in it and are exposed to it but to society as a whole yo these are actually extremely comfortable I'm not gonna lie
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Oct 18, 2018 20:52
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Aren't they like $30 apiece?
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General Dog posted:Aren't they like $30 apiece?
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Oct 18, 2018 20:59
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Mack Weldon's are the ones that are $30+ which is a shame because they tend to advertise on the podcasts I'd be most inclined to support.
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i buy the ones with the ren and stimpy-esque animation about how the complex fabric arrangement for your junk works https://i.imgur.com/BXuLtpT.mp4
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But do they have silver lining to suck the filth off your cock and balls
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It’s disturbing how funny I think these jokes that riff on lovely podcast ads are.
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So It Goes posted:It’s kinda crazy Facebook didn’t think counting 3 autoplaying seconds as a view wouldn’t come back to hurt them. Maybe they decided the gain they would get from doing that while growing would outweigh the fraud claims and penalties they pay up later. It's time to break them up, these tech monopolies are destroying society. Put zuckernerd in the oubliette
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General Dog posted:Aren't they like $30 apiece? Dunno my wife bought them for me as a joke but then it turns out they're actually good
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Feels Villeneuve posted:It's a good thing that the guys who made those decisions are the ones who are going to suffer and not all the guys who got fired. they were always going to be subject to the whims of a dying corporation and it’s a matter of whether the writers lose their jobs because publications don’t make enough as revenue or if they lose their jobs because the faceless newscorp restructured to try and mine more ad revenue from the video department they were already
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Declan MacManus posted:they were always going to be subject to the whims of a dying corporation and it’s a matter of whether the writers lose their jobs because publications don’t make enough as revenue or if they lose their jobs because the faceless newscorp restructured to try and mine more ad revenue from the video department
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All marketing is lying, Facebook did not invent the concept e: I feel bad for writers who lost their jobs, and as a person who strongly prefers reading things to watching things I personally suffer from it, but the executives in question were/are some combination of evil and stupid, and if Facebook was evil and smart and took advantage of them and cleaned their clocks, I can't find it in my charred heart to feel bad for them and they were always going to drive their companies out of business and their writers into unemployment before long, unfortunately. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Oct 19, 2018 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:All marketing is lying, Facebook did not invent the concept
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Crazy Ted posted:Look, be as cynical as you want but Facebook is still very likely to be hit with a massive lawsuit over this. Tidal was hit with a Class Action lawsuit over something similar not that long ago, because they were reporting incorrect statistics from their streaming service and it led to artists and record labels being underpaid on royalties. I thought the tidal thing was them lying massively about plays on songs, but the other direction? Like saying kanye's album was listened to like 8 times by all of earth and poo poo
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Yes, THIS TIME the major corporation will face consequences for their actions.
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Lockback posted:Yes, THIS TIME the major corporation will face consequences for their actions. The difference between THIS TIME and other times is who is being screwed over. If it's average people/consumers, you're right. If it's major corporations and/or rich people? They will be punished.
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I really dislike video because it seems like a lot of them don't do closed captions. I'm not deaf, but it makes a video worthless if you want to watch it in public without headphones. I did find that ESPN has CC, but I don't see them on most sites. Youtube's auto captioning is hilariously bad.
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Bird in a Blender posted:I really dislike video because it seems like a lot of them don't do closed captions. I'm not deaf, but it makes a video worthless if you want to watch it in public without headphones. I did find that ESPN has CC, but I don't see them on most sites. Youtube's auto captioning is hilariously bad. Having to rely on reading text to understand video content  The ultimate pivot
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Bird in a Blender posted:I really dislike video because it seems like a lot of them don't do closed captions. I'm not deaf, but it makes a video worthless if you want to watch it in public without headphones. I did find that ESPN has CC, but I don't see them on most sites. Youtube's auto captioning is hilariously bad. The best video pivot are the 2 minute videos that take a 4 sentence paragraph and break it up into half sentence chunks of text over stock footage. Lookin at you, Now This. Spoeank fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Oct 19, 2018 |
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Bird in a Blender posted:I really dislike video because it seems like a lot of them don't do closed captions. I'm not deaf, but it makes a video worthless if you want to watch it in public without headphones. I did find that ESPN has CC, but I don't see them on most sites. Youtube's auto captioning is hilariously bad. My issue with video is that I can read an article about ten times faster than it takes to watch a bunch of talking heads jabber on for four minutes or whatever. loving CNN is the worst, because they've decided that every single article on their site needs to be tied to a video that auto-plays and oh my God gently caress you.
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Timby posted:My issue with video is that I can read an article about ten times faster than it takes to watch a bunch of talking heads jabber on for four minutes or whatever. loving CNN is the worst, because they've decided that every single article on their site needs to be tied to a video that auto-plays and oh my God gently caress you. autoplaying video was awful when they first rolled it out like ten years ago and guess what still awful uninvited sounds/video/buffered content has always and forever been a terrible web 2.0 concept and a crystallization of the fact that advertisers and web designers have almost no clue how people actually consume web content Crazy Ted posted:Look, be as cynical as you want but Facebook is still very likely to be hit with a massive lawsuit over this. Tidal was hit with a Class Action lawsuit over something similar not that long ago, because they were reporting incorrect statistics from their streaming service and it led to artists and record labels being underpaid on royalties. don’t get me wrong, facebook totally deserves to get fistfucked over this and many other fucky things they have done but i’m still gonna laugh at all the corporations who got hoodwinked just so they wouldn’t get left behind in the great gold rush of social media engagement the real kick in the taint is that all the people who lost their jobs in the neckbreaking pivot to easy to digest content that nobody watched won’t receive a dime of compensation; it’ll just be money changing hands between the rich and the mega rich and their corporate lawyers nothing will change and those old jobs won’t come back
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Bird in a Blender posted:I really dislike video because it seems like a lot of them don't do closed captions. I'm not deaf, but it makes a video worthless if you want to watch it in public without headphones. I did find that ESPN has CC, but I don't see them on most sites. Youtube's auto captioning is hilariously bad. A note: I run a small news org. Today I uploaded a video to facebook and turned on auto captions and it put the freakin N word in the captions even though the person didn't say anything remotely like the freaking N word.
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IMB posted:A note: I run a small news org. Today I uploaded a video to facebook and turned on auto captions and it put the freakin N word in the captions even though the person didn't say anything remotely like the freaking N word. Facebook has gathered enough data to know what’s in your heart
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IMB posted:A note: I run a small news org. Today I uploaded a video to facebook and turned on auto captions and it put the freakin N word in the captions even though the person didn't say anything remotely like the freaking N word. Honest question: why is the n word even in the word list? why would you have it spelled out and not censored like n----- or something if you HAD to have it in there?
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Ramadu posted:Honest question: why is the n word even in the word list? why would you have it spelled out and not censored like n----- or something if you HAD to have it in there? Silicon Valley is filled with racists.
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Ramadu posted:Honest question: why is the n word even in the word list? why would you have it spelled out and not censored like n----- or something if you HAD to have it in there? Subtitles should translate it to “friend of the family”
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General Dog posted:Facebook has gathered enough data to know what’s in your heart to be fair, the guy in the video definitely looked like the type
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Dexo posted:Silicon Valley is filled with racists. you mean to tell me james damore WASN'T a lone wolf?
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Timby posted:My issue with video is that I can read an article about ten times faster than it takes to watch a bunch of talking heads jabber on for four minutes or whatever. loving CNN is the worst, because they've decided that every single article on their site needs to be tied to a video that auto-plays and oh my God gently caress you. Oh yeah, I hate video for those reasons too, but occasionally I want to watch a highlight video, or whatever and I don't have much of a choice. Anyway, autoplay video is dumb, and I expect every website to have come around and nearly abandoned video in 3 years time.
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General Dog posted:Subtitles should translate it to “friend of the family” Grandma
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