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Badfinger posted:After reading that, it has become apparent to me that I don't know anything about anything and I never will because the universe is too weird. Without even reading the article, I can tell you that Twitter is loving terrible.
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Somehow it never occurred to me that all of those awful parody accounts were in some way intended to make money
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May 2, 2012 14:18
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Zeeman posted:Somehow it never occurred to me that all of those awful parody accounts were in some way intended to make money Same here (even though its really obvious once pointed out). I guess I should really remember Rule #1 in life: The reason anyone does anything ever is to make money.
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May 2, 2012 14:20
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It's not really surprising how quickly this whole thing got creepy. Do we really need home ambushes and high school yearbook photos?
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May 2, 2012 15:16
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morestuff posted:It's not really surprising how quickly this whole thing got creepy. Do we really need home ambushes and high school yearbook photos? You're talking about a website that regularly assembles its "I-Team" to gather personal information about random people who happen to attend sporting events and are also attractive women. I used to love Deadspin, but it really skeeves me out now.
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May 2, 2012 15:18
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haljordan posted:You're talking about a website that regularly assembles its "I-Team" to gather personal information about random people who happen to attend sporting events and are also attractive women. I used to love Deadspin, but it really skeeves me out now. I actually think Deadspin's coverage has been fine — they tried to dissuade people from the weird vigilante justice in one of their updates. Awful Announcing has the yearbook photos/Twitter-sourced details from the girl's school days.
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May 2, 2012 15:20
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I don't really have a problem with cutting through this girl's veil of bullshit and dragging her true identity out into the open via extrinsic evidence. That's what should happen to a scammer that attempts to hide behind a cloak of misdirection or anonymity. Showing up at her house is way, way too far though.
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May 2, 2012 15:25
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swizz posted:I don't really have a problem with cutting through this girl's veil of bullshit and dragging her true identity out into the open via extrinsic evidence. That's what should happen to a scammer that attempts to hide behind a cloak of misdirection or anonymity. Showing up at her house is way, way too far though. Exposing crimes or fleshing out a story with pertinent details is fine. Writing articles about how she played soccer in high school and used to play poker at @Keendra23's house is boring, pointless and a little skeevy.
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May 2, 2012 15:45
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I do not see that sort of information on Deadspin but it is possible that I am inadvertently overlooking it somehow
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swizz posted:I do not see that sort of information on Deadspin but it is possible that I am inadvertently overlooking it somehow Not Deadspin.
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May 2, 2012 15:54
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I wonder how much mainstream traction this story is going to get (publications like USA Today and the NY Daily News both have links up for it already) given the internet-related absurdity involved in this story. I want to see a trashy news magazine like Inside Edition attempting to explain what a fake twitter account is.
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May 2, 2012 15:56
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hcreight posted:I wonder how much mainstream traction this story is going to get (publications like USA Today and the NY Daily News both have links up for it already) given the internet-related absurdity involved in this story. I want to see a trashy news magazine like Inside Edition attempting to explain what a fake twitter account is.
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May 2, 2012 15:59
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FlamingLiberal posted:We'll see, I hadn't heard about it until I saw the name Sarah Phillips showing up on Twitter myself. Whole thing is an elaborate scam to drum up publicity for Sarah Phillips/ESPN Playbook 
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May 2, 2012 16:05
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morestuff posted:Not Deadspin. Ohhh I see. Thanks for the link, morestuff.
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May 2, 2012 16:13
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How do those parody accounts make any money when there's no personal advertising on Twitter yet? Are they just prepping for when it does go public? Or I guess they could link to their websites that have ads but I don't follow any parody accounts so I dunno if they do that.
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May 2, 2012 16:37
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BackInTheUSSR posted:How do those parody accounts make any money when there's no personal advertising on Twitter yet? Are they just prepping for when it does go public? Sponsored tweets are one way.
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May 2, 2012 16:39
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But everyone who buys Sponsored Tweets owns a business or sells an item. NotBillWalton and all those just post stupid jokes all day. What's the money-making item? Am I missing something here and being naive?
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May 2, 2012 16:45
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They can sponsor or advertise content to all their followers by saying 'hey check out this funny link' in between their content tweets. People think they aren't sponsored, but are behind closed doors. It's the same scam that clubs in LA tried to pull in the early days of myspace. They would hire models to get as many guys to friend them, and then would say 'I'm going to this club' to all those guys.
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May 2, 2012 17:01
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Lost in the midst of all of the Sarah Phillips hoopla is that Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times has essentially been put on permanent Zero Tolerance after a series of spectacularly sexist Twitter tirades he went in within the last couple of weeks.
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Crazy Ted posted:Lost in the midst of all of the Sarah Phillips hoopla is that Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times has essentially been put on permanent Zero Tolerance after a series of spectacularly sexist Twitter tirades he went in within the last couple of weeks. but who will warn us of the danger of chick pilots and ugly flight attendants? 
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Bizob posted:but who will warn us of the danger of chick pilots and ugly flight attendants?
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May 2, 2012 17:22
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quote:A graduate of Kent State University, Cowley joined the Sun-Times in 2006 from the Daily Southtown, where he started in 1998. Named sports columnist in 2010, he’s been called “the new Jay Mariotti,” for his provocative and, at times, antagonistic style. Cowley also is a contributor to CBS Radio sports/talk WSCR-AM (670). He's also like Jay Mariotti in the sense that he probably beats women as well.
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May 2, 2012 17:56
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Crazy Ted posted:Lost in the midst of all of the Sarah Phillips hoopla is that Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times has essentially been put on permanent Zero Tolerance after a series of spectacularly sexist Twitter tirades he went in within the last couple of weeks. How he did not get fired over all that is utterly disgraceful.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:How he did not get fired over all that is utterly disgraceful. Breaking the law is often not included in fire-able offenses this is Chicago after all.
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The article I read made it sound like they were considering firing him but backed off due to fear of a union-backed lawsuit.
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Crazy Ted posted:Of course he made the mistake of thinking that deleting his Twitter account would magically make it look like he never said any of the things he said. The report I read said that the paper ordered Cowley to delete his Twitter, not that it was his decision. Not that this makes him any less of an idiot.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:How he did not get fired over all that is utterly disgraceful. Especially considering how many actually-good people have lost their jobs at CST in the past few years. But, that paper's turned into such a shitrag that while I'd like to be surprised, I'm not.
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May 2, 2012 19:21
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I'm sure it's been discussed already and I just lost it in the twitter talk, but that Chipmunks article on Grantland was really really neat.
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The world of Twitter is way weirder than I ever expected. I never thought I'd be reading articles about that girl who did Junk Mail for, like, 3 weeks, but here we are. I only joined Twitter to get updates about the White Sox and Arby's coupons. So far, only one of those has actually happened.
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May 2, 2012 19:28
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She is now trying to come clean but is still completely full of poo poo: http://deadspin.com/5906849/sarah-phillips-admits-she-concealed-her-identity-made-poor-choices-with-who-to-trust And apparently she's been scamming people out of their twitter accounts for some time as well http://nilsenreport.ca/2012/05/01/former-espn-columnist-sarah-phillips-exposed/
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May 2, 2012 19:52
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That Nilsen guy and the other dudes that got scammed by her are 100% total loving morons who would've eventually been parted from their possessions by somebody else anyway
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stuart scott irl posted:That Nilsen guy and the other dudes that got scammed by her are 100% total loving morons who would've eventually been parted from their possessions by somebody else anyway While I do agree with that it is still amazing that espn is still so incompetent at dealing with the Internet that they hired her. She's basically a front for her Indian scammer boyfriend it would seem. It's all an incredible clusterfuck.
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May 2, 2012 20:26
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May 2, 2012 20:29
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Henry Meowlins posted:While I do agree with that it is still amazing that espn is still so incompetent at dealing with the Internet that they hired her. She's basically a front for her Indian scammer boyfriend it would seem. It's all an incredible clusterfuck. She was just a freelancer, though. They still didn't consider her part of the ESPN.com staff. Now if this was someone like Bill Simmons or that Uni Watch guy, there'd probably be more blame placed on ESPN.
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Brotax posted:She was just a freelancer, though. They still didn't consider her part of the ESPN.com staff. Now if this was someone like Bill Simmons or that Uni Watch guy, there'd probably be more blame placed on ESPN. I'm all for anything that would get Bill Simmons fired/executed/deported to Guam.
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haljordan posted:I'm all for anything that would get Bill Simmons fired/executed/deported to Guam. "Bill Simmons is Sarah Phillips" would truly be the greatest thing to ever happen.
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I didn't know people still hated Bill Simmons. I thought we had come full circle on him. He's good at his job, doesn't try to reach outside his homerism niche and is responsible for Grantland, which I really like. Of all the ESPN columnists he takes himself the least seriously and generally speaks for the reactionary passionate casual fan. He's also a self-aware Boston fan, which is nice, and he's come around to sabermetrics recently so he's not spouting off bullshit about hustle and Kevin Millar and cowboy up anymore. He's harmless, and the worst thing he ever did was that 30 for 30 about the 04 ALCS. The lack of a background check makes sense with Phillips only in that I can 100% understand a scenario where Lynn Hoppes really needed an attractive woman who was an at least halfway-competent writer and he struck gold and pulled the trigger. In such a backwoods niche bullshit corner of ESPN, I think the guy has free rein to be his pervy, action-figure obsessed self with little influence or double-checking from the higher ups.
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stuart scott irl posted:I don't know, freelancers get hired all the time without face-to-face meetings or background checks any more thorough than reading previous work. That part doesn't really surprise me that much. This is very true. I work almost exclusively as a freelance writer, and I can't recall the last client I actually met in person or spoke to on the phone - and while that includes a lot of individuals who just wanted content for their websites, there's at least one major media corporation included in that, too. That's not to say that this is a particularly smart way of doing things, just that it's the way things are done at the moment.
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stuart scott irl posted:That Nilsen guy and the other dudes that got scammed by her are 100% total loving morons who would've eventually been parted from their possessions by somebody else anyway This is very true but we as a society like to prevent stupid people from harming themselves so often, using laws. The thing that gets to me about the Sarah Phillips story re: freelance work is that she had a "spotless" online reputation when she was hired. It is very risky to just go by the Internet when looking for online writers. ...or commenting on a message board. 
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