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midwat
May 6, 2007

Badfinger posted:

A local columnist wrote an article where he pretended to ask President Obama random questions about sports. Then he pretended to answer them?

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110705/SPORTS11/107050340/Lopresti-Let-s-hear-White-House-weigh-sports-debate


Phew, what a knee slapper. Am I right?

Has the fake interview ever, in the history of the world, been funny?

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midwat
May 6, 2007

Mornacale posted:

The Onion

Never really seen them do that Q-and-A style that hack columnists use. I guess they could make that format work but, like 99 percent of the time, Q-and-A comes across as "Hey, look at me put words in this famous person's mouth."

midwat
May 6, 2007

ESPN continues to try to justify "The Decision" as something other than incredibly cynical: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=wulf-110708

ESPN posted:

To you, it was a staged announcement. To the kids who were at the Greenwich, Conn., Boys and Girls Club last July 8, it was an exciting visit to their home. To you, his choice was about maximizing fortune and fame. To them, it was his chance to play with his friends. To you, he seemed stiff, almost embarrassed when he said, "I'm going to take my talents to South Beach." To them -- once the show was over and he was asked to pose for a photograph -- LeBron James was warm and gracious.

LeBron was totally nice to some kids once! This redeems all his flaws!

midwat
May 6, 2007

xbilkis posted:

I mean, objectively, raising $3 million for charity definitely does redeem the flaw of a terrible media circus or whatever. I think the more offensive thing about this is that it's a part of a wave from ESPN trying to make a news story out of "The Decision Happened A Year Ago"

The donation to charity really seemed transparently cynical to me. Granted, it's good thing, but he could have done it independent of a self-aggrandizing TV special.

I do agree that it's ridiculous to note the anniversary of "The Decision."

Also, the kid having to use the haunted bathroom because LeBron was using the other one is pretty funny.

midwat
May 6, 2007

Not sure why everyone's praising Plaschke's article. It's OK, but there's some trademark Plaschke dumbness in there.

Like this:

Plaschke posted:

Amid a college football season filled with cries from angry athletes demanding to be paid, will people look at the Penn State crisis and realize that a player payroll would only make the athletic department walls taller and thicker?

Yes, because paying athletes would make child rape... more likely? It would somehow delay its disclosure (despite the fact that disclosure was already delayed by eight-plus years in this case)?

This doesn't make a lick of sense, and is in the article just so Plaschke can conflate this scandal and the claims of his ideological opponents.

Plaschke makes the argument that money has allowed the football program to insulate itself. He then argues that paying the students (and thus taking money from the program) will allow the program to insulate itself. Can't have it both ways.

Paying players has absolutely nothing to do with this scandal. Plaschke wrote that paragraph just so he can say "take that!" to people who disagree with him about an entirely unrelated matter.

midwat fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Nov 11, 2011

midwat
May 6, 2007

Badfinger posted:

I love Ron Jaworski and hate that ESPN has peter principle'd him into all his hours and hours of diligent film study translating into 10 second sound clips of him going "WHAM BLOCK, NEATO".

I'm hoping Jaws' removal from the MNF booth will mean more analysis from him, and less color-guy sound bites.

midwat
May 6, 2007

morestuff posted:

Chris Broussard had a good day.

The thing I remember most about Broussard was his ridiculous hedging during the LeBron free agency saga. He kept saying things like, "I'm hearing it could be Miami or Chicago, but I think he stays in Cleveland."

Then, of course, the ESPN talking heads praised him afterwards for "getting it right." Sources!

midwat
May 6, 2007

Crazy Ted posted:

Here's a good one: SportsCenter lifted a report literally word-for-word from RealGM.

How does it even enter one's head to do that? "Yeah, we're a very popular network that's constantly watched (and scrutinized) by a web-savvy audience. No one will ever notice!"

midwat
May 6, 2007

morestuff posted:

I assume it was breaking news, a producer copied and pasted it into the script, someone was supposed to rewrite/reframe it and they didn't for whatever reason and it made it to air unedited.

Yeah, that's really the only plausible explanation.

Even if they had reworked it, though, it remains incredibly shady to air something you've put no original reporting into.

midwat
May 6, 2007

LARGE THE HEAD posted:

Way back in January, Thomas Lake wrote this.

This past week, Thomas Lake wrote this.

In response, Tommy Craggs wrote this.

So who's in the right?

I'm leaning toward Craggs because I'm not sure that anything Lake says he did really helped matters in the first place.

Craggs is right.

Insisting someone else buy a house for someone is a dick move.

midwat
May 6, 2007

So, ESPN's sourcing remains a total joke.

midwat
May 6, 2007

Badfinger posted:

Between this article about student athletes having mandatory finance checks which are probably violations to civil liberties, and his recent article on how truly lovely public stadium financing is, I'm starting to really like Patrick Hruby's Serious Issues articles.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/40769854/

Every time I try to get into college football, I'm reminded that it's a kafkaesque, ludicrous nightmare.

midwat
May 6, 2007

General Dog posted:

Yeah it's great, what else are you waiting for?

A decent team in the northeast.

midwat
May 6, 2007

Crazy Ted posted:

He probably wasn't fired for the original "Cornball Brother" comments as much for the follow up to the comments he made to a Detroit show of some sort last week:

Make racist statements on air? One month suspension.

Imply ESPN is imperfect in any way? That's a firin'.

midwat
May 6, 2007

morestuff posted:

It's only tangentially related to sports journalism at this point, but AJ Daulerio is leaving Gawker.

Did his pact with Satan expire?

midwat
May 6, 2007

Holy Diverticulitis posted:

I know I have a record for sticking up for Deadspin, but this is a pretty common reply to any scoop. You sound like you had the resources to break the same story and would have, if the other people hadn't gone forward and scooped you "recklessly." Nobody's really going to challenge your almost-piece, so you get to seem like you were on the same track and pursuing the same stories but only lost out because of greater probity, respectability and caution, whereas the other guy fired away and lucked out with being not-wrong. This is a vibe replicated all over politics, too, so it's not like ESPN would be pioneering it here.

I believe this. I heard one of the authors of the Deadspin piece being interviewed today, and he said ESPN hadn't called any of the sources Deadspin used.

midwat
May 6, 2007

The Prisoner posted:

Has anyone posted the most recent Rick Reilly piece, wherein he presumes to judge for Colin Kaepernick in the most asinine and presumptuous manner possible?

Reilly's been on my shitlist for a long, long time, but this is a new pinnacle. Why should anyone, let alone a guy who claims to be a journalist, give a flying gently caress what Colin Kaepernick does with this aspect of his personal life?

Reilly's the worst. I rag on Peter King for being a puffed-up sellout who couldn't find the point of a story if it struck him in the face, but on his worst day he's still better than Rick Reilly.

Reilly truly exemplifies the worst of his profession. Unearned smugness? Check. Fetid jokes? Check. Priggishness masquerading as moral righteousness? Check.

And yet he is buried under tons of accolades and mountains of cash. It'll drive you insane if you think too much about it.

midwat
May 6, 2007

I acknowledge the fact that Darren Rovell has to exist while hating the fact that he does.

midwat
May 6, 2007

Deadspin's Tommy Craggs did an interview about breaking the Manti Te'o story and journalistic standards.

I'm typically ambivalent toward Deadspin, but I do like how they called out the rest of the sports media for its "our standards were too good to publish the story" excuse. If their standards were that good, how the hell did they fall for the hoax to begin with?

quote:

Q: Ed Sherman wrote the following about a quote toward the end of the Deadspin story on the Te’o girlfriend hoax: “If I’m the editor, I don’t let that quote go through. Who was this friend of Tuiasosopo? Was this person also involved? Friends have a tendency to talk out of school. Maybe this person exaggerated the quote just to be part of the story?” and “So now you’re running an incredibly damning quote from a single source who likely doesn’t know the complete story. 80 percent sure is long way from 100 percent sure in this instance.”

How do you respond to that? What’s the rationale behind adding that friend’s opinion in the piece at all? In light of ESPN’s report that Ronaiah Tuiasosopo admitted to the hoax and that Te’o was not involved in it, does the quote in the Deadspin story accomplish anything other than leading the reader to believe that Te’o was somehow involved?

A: This is a concern troll’s complaint. It’s moronic. That’s a quote from a source who knew both the hoax and hoaxer better than anyone we’d spoken with. It contains its own grain of salt. Eighty percent is not 100 percent: congratulations, Ed Sherman, you can understand the basic English words and number concepts that went into the quote. Yet 80 percent is nevertheless “incredibly damning.”

There are 2,000 words of context preceding that quote, context that was perfectly understood by everyone who read the story except committed Notre Dame truthers and certain willfully dense journalists who were determined to remind people that Deadspin isn’t real journalism. When the story broke, almost none of the people who gleefully jumped on Manti Te’o pulled out that quote to make the case. Only retroactively did people decide this had been the prosecutorial pivot of the piece.

midwat fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Feb 27, 2013

midwat
May 6, 2007

Crazy Ted posted:

How dare you not quote the best part:


Fuckin' jokes man. How do they work?

It looks like the author responded in the comments, and is bound and determined to look like an idiot.

quote:

Thanks for your comment, Mike. While it may have been a joke, I do believe the comment could be perceived as racist. And that’s the point behind the question: what is Deadspin’s policy on removing reader comments that may be offensive to other readers?
In this case, just because the individual who made the comment in question referenced girl scout cookies, doesn’t automatically make the comment benign. The comment is referring to “Samoans” – whether as cookies or not – in response to an article about a Samoan athlete. The comment then includes the phrase “they lie” (which sounds like a reference to Te’o lying about his fake girlfriend), and the phrase “now they’re boxed in,” which implies that Te’o is somehow guilty of a fraudulent scheme.
Bottom line: any reasonable person could take the comment to be referring to Manti Te’o by his ethnicity and then implying that he is a liar and now trapped in a web of his own lies.

Thank god this author is willing to ask the tough question of whether Deadspin would remove comments that "could be perceived as racist" by people who don't get jokes.

midwat
May 6, 2007

DeltaAttack2go posted:

That's the type of column that would make me rage drop my subscription to the Globe immediately.

See also: every Dan Shaughnessy column ever

midwat
May 6, 2007


Yeah, you wouldn't want John Wall spoiling all the other things the Wizards have going for them, like ______________, ______________, and ____________.

midwat
May 6, 2007

Mr. Funny Pants posted:

And, like Peter King, wins "Sportswriter of the Year" awards over and over and over. Chosen by his peers. Which explains why sports writing is so loving awful in general.

Sportswriting awards are as useful to finding your way as a compass. Find out where they go, and head the opposite direction.

midwat
May 6, 2007

haljordan posted:

I'm still waiting for a new edition of "Who's More Now?" assholes!

Maybe someone at ESPN realized that, immediately after that show ends, it becomes "Who Was More Then?" and that the now is forever beyond human perception.

midwat
May 6, 2007

MourningView posted:

I'm glad he's dropping this politics bullshit to get back to something important like projecting the performance of baseball players.

And being called a nerd by ESPN on-air "personalities."

midwat
May 6, 2007

MourningView posted:

Lord knows you wouldn't want to miss the many insightful things to come out of post game interviews like

Or pre-game interviews. Or mid-game interviews. Basically, athlete/coach interviews should be outlawed.

midwat
May 6, 2007

Grittybeard posted:

Do the names Denny Green, Jim Mora and Hal McRae mean nothing to you?

Plus side: occasional coach blowups. Negative side: "Playoffs? PLAYOFFS?" becomes slightly less funny after the 650th repetition.

midwat
May 6, 2007

Kalli posted:

The entire crew of MNF going to town on the replacement refs was pretty great.

That temporary period where the sports media actually called the NFL on its poo poo was pretty cool.

I think Peter King even put down his caramel mocha triple venti frappuccino to comment on it.

midwat
May 6, 2007

Thaddius the Large posted:

Hey, just because every other goon project outside of a scat porn donation drive has failed miserably doesn't mean this one will too!

Are you claiming The Zybourne Clock was anything but an unmitigated success?

midwat
May 6, 2007

jeffersonlives posted:

ESPN hired Michele Steele as a sports business reporter a couple of years ago. Sometimes they send her on location when there isn't a pertinent sports business story. She used to be Bloomberg's sports business person.

I thought "ESPN sports business reporter" was Darren Rovell's gig, unless they changed it to "douchebag in residence."

midwat
May 6, 2007

Why does ESPN pay Rick Reilly $3.4 million when Grantland's "#hotsportstakes" guy does the same job for 1/50th the cost?

midwat
May 6, 2007

Mornacale posted:

Because you just used Rick Reilly's name but not the other guy's.

To be fair, I read #hotsportstakes way more than I do Reilly.

midwat
May 6, 2007

erezaka posted:

Simmons was never as good as Reilly at his best and I'll be shocked if he ever becomes as bad as Reilly is now

To be fair, Reilly was at his best doing feature stories, and that's something Simmons never really did.


But yeah, Reilly now is barely a shadow of what he once was.

midwat
May 6, 2007

MourningView posted:

I guess I shouldn't say always because I'm probably too young to have read his earliest stuff for SI so maybe he had some decent feature stuff, but he's been bad for a really really long time. Those back page stories were almost always either formulaic sob stories or hacky attempts at being funny.

I've read some decent/good features by him, but you're right - his columns were universally awful.

midwat
May 6, 2007

uublog posted:

I send carrier pigeons to voice my displeasure with the media

Telegram, bro.

Mr. Reilly STOP Your columns are terrible poo poo STOP Please cease immediately END

midwat
May 6, 2007

FuzzySkinner posted:

I have no idea where the hell to post this, but this Albert Burneko guy that posts occasionally on deadspin about beer/food? Is an idiot, and should quit writing stuff.

Not saying Deadspin is some place of journalistic integrity, but they sometimes don't exactly hire the best people.

I find him kinda funny v:shobon:v

midwat
May 6, 2007

zakharov posted:

Rovell really Rovelled it up with the Winston thing today



There are lots of sports media figures who are terrible people with terrible opinions, but the only one I've ever thought "he must be stopped" about is Darren Rovell.

midwat
May 6, 2007

DJExile posted:

Apparently access is easier than loving ever these days. That 9/11 truther who stole the microphone from Malcolm Smith last night? Got there simply by telling security he was running late and flashed credentials from a concert he covered a while back.

Funnily enough, the mere fact he got in did more to discredit post-9/11 security measures than anything he could've said into that microphone.

He's still a lunatic, though.

midwat fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Feb 4, 2014

midwat
May 6, 2007

I think it's really funny that a man whose reason for being is "brand and perception management" is universally reviled.

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midwat
May 6, 2007

Frackie Robinson posted:

Why are we talking about all this Grantland poo poo when we could be talking about Jon Bois' latest installment of NBA Y2K, "Death of the NBA"? It's a loving work of art.

Jon Bois is loving fantastic.

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