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Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

That story is from 2008, DuBose melts down constantly over officiating in every game and sport

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Aug 2, 2008

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Declan MacManus posted:

i mean fixing games renders the result of them illegitimate and it’s apparently easier to fix the games than the nba lets on AND there were/are likely other corrupt refs who conspired to fix games and were never caught

soooooooo

Fine but this is only getting brought up because the Rockets/their fans think Foster is out to get them. The leap of logic from "bad ref, possibly corrupt" to "FIXING GAMES EXCLUSIVELY AGAINST MY TEAM" is the dumb part

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Aug 2, 2008

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Yeah, the details of the case are horrifying

https://twitter.com/PerryNBCBoston/status/1098993722665115649

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Aug 2, 2008

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TrueHoop is relaunching as a $10 a month newsletter which is…ambitious

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Aug 2, 2008

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Dumb pointless hyperbole was 90% of internet content in the mid-2000s and Magary is one of the last few non-political writers getting paid for it

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Aug 2, 2008

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What is this both sides bullshit

https://twitter.com/E60/status/1103699949819252737

E60 does solid work in general so I'm hoping the actual piece has more context but that tweet and promo are real bad

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Aug 2, 2008

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chunkles posted:

its probably pretty easy to yell at a navy seal if you are 7 feet tall or just in general as a professional athlete since they can't actually hit you. only joey crawford is allowed to do that

Also the refs should be strapped

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Aug 2, 2008

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What is up with that last sentence. Listen guys we’re just under a lot of pressure right now

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Aug 2, 2008

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Don't Gawker sites make a big chunk of their income off affiliate-link advertorial

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Aug 2, 2008

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Deadspin: This dumb-but-vaguely-interesting puff piece is a sign of SI's decline

Also Deadspin: Here's 10,000 words of Drew Magary talking about dog barf or whatever

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Aug 2, 2008

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MourningView posted:

They do a pretty good job of making it clear that those are sponsored content most of the time but yeah it looks silly when one of these pieces is right next to like seven Amazon ads. Deadspin editorial doesn't really have any control over the kinja deals stuff or the ads though. No one there is exactly shy about saying that Univision sucks.

Yeah, it's handled relatively well and they'd probably be dead without it. It's just funny to accuse another writer of ruining a hallowed brand with something you think resembles sponsored content when your outlet relies heavily on actual sponsored content

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Aug 2, 2008

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Blast Fantasto posted:

Did people not read the article? It’s not just that Sports Illustrated ran an article about crazy hotdogs with the Diamondbacks.

A hot dog itself is named after/branded with Sports Illustrated. That’s extremely loving weird.

Like imagine if The NY Times food section ran an article about a hot new burger restaurant and halfway through was like “the next dish they made for us, The New York Times Burger - noice! - features...”

Like yeah it’s not a review of the restaurant but it sure is going to cast a shadow over any future criticism of the establishment.

TBF I only read the first 1000+ words before this is mentioned

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Aug 2, 2008

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Fansided's Pistons blog decided to try a colossally stupid April Fool's Day prank that is now the top Google News result for "Blake Griffin" and "Detroit Pistons"

https://twitter.com/PistonPowered/status/1112680343255945219

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Aug 2, 2008

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Oof, RIP

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Aug 2, 2008

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I remember friends at The Onion complaining about how corporate the management was in like 2008, companies like that and Gawker just need to be run by Gen X self-sabotagers and coked-out perverts forever

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Aug 2, 2008

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https://twitter.com/sarafischer/status/1115592867936907264?s=21

NBA podcast is the Count The Dings crew so no thanks

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Aug 2, 2008

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They actually just expanded women’s soccer coverage, though I know they also recently reshuffled that department and let some freelancers go

https://twitter.com/theathleticsccr/status/1115630445901651968?s=21

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Aug 2, 2008

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Nothing says "authentic brand" like the Authentic Brands Group

https://twitter.com/BenMullin/status/1121478704092180480?s=20

https://twitter.com/alexweprin/status/1121479618249281538?s=20

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Aug 2, 2008

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That article seems written to piss off people on Internet forums so mission accomplished I guess

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Aug 2, 2008

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https://twitter.com/bryancurtis/status/1123243008781058048?s=20

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Aug 2, 2008

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Declan MacManus posted:

it’s not like espn the magazine is a prestige project or anything

It's funny how quickly things have changed. Having a "print edition" was seen as a huge legitimizing thing for ESPN back when it launched in 1998 and now no one could possibly give a poo poo

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Aug 2, 2008

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Tim Marchman among the casualties.

https://twitter.com/timmarchman/status/1123313625622634496?s=20

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Aug 2, 2008

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General Dog posted:

I think it is reasonable for ESPN to cater to their audience. They are primarily an entertainment business, after all.

It’s honestly kind of surprising they (sometimes) acted like a journalistic entity for as long as they did

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Aug 2, 2008

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https://twitter.com/jadande/status/1133182666604503041?s=21

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Aug 2, 2008

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Sports Illustrated Thrilla In Vanilla Wafers. Lawdy, Lawdy They're Great!

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Aug 2, 2008

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Genuinely not on board with the “Stephen A. Is good actually” hard turn of the last year or so

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Aug 2, 2008

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Loud clown + 10% self awareness doesn’t do it for me

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Aug 2, 2008

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Declan MacManus posted:

there’s this dude who wrote for 538’s pop culture section, i can’t remember his name, but i’d see an article with an interesting premise, get halfway through, then something he’d write would rub me the wrong way, i’d scroll up to the byline, and then i’d be like “oh this loving guy again” and close it

i treat kevin o’connor basically the same way

It’s sort of amazing that the Ringer has poached like a dozen NBA writers from good sites and none of them are worth reading

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Aug 2, 2008

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June 27, the perfect time to rank a loose collection of this year's things

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Aug 2, 2008

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https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/1145751473470332929?s=20

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Aug 2, 2008

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I mean it's not a good joke but that's still clearly a joke

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Aug 2, 2008

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Jonah Keri's career is probably going away forever

https://twitter.com/bruce_arthur/status/1152250170865856513?s=20

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Aug 2, 2008

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Dexo posted:

No they don't, acceleration and forced growth is why all this poo poo is failing. Because the hedge funds that own all the papers are just seeking more profits and shuttering them when they don't meet expectations and absurd growth.


I hope they continue to be allowed to grow. Because there's a ton of cool writers on there.

Even with 500,000 subs they're still probably burning through cash, so they need to be profitable at some point

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Aug 2, 2008

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MourningView posted:

I don't think their NBA coverage is that good outside of the draft but it probably depends on the beat writer and how much of a tolerance for Zach Harper trying out his stand up set you have

They’ve got Shams but as far as I’m aware that dude doesn’t exist outside Twitter

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Aug 2, 2008

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PotatoJudge posted:

When afootballwebsite.com is up it will be part of Vox but not SBNation

That seems weird

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Aug 2, 2008

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These articles are always really boring

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Aug 2, 2008

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Blast Fantasto posted:

I find it fascinating and also I think it’s important that poo poo like that gets published, rather than just silently sitting by while the hyper rich ruling class destroys everything they touch to make dividends.

I read like 3000 words and didn't glean much beyond "New CEO hired people he's worked with before"

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Aug 2, 2008

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ElwoodCuse posted:

No one funding these companies is thinking "let's fix this industry", they are thinking "what if WE were the billionaires in charge of this industry"

The dudes running it seem like the usual techbro dinguses but as far as the business model goes there's really nothing wrong with it. It may not end up being sustainable but that's basically a risk with any new business

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Aug 2, 2008

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Mahoning posted:

Bullshit. Nothing is stopping anyone else from starting their own online sports news website. The online other business models are A) Bombard the readers with banner and pop up ads, collect click revenue or B) Pivot to video and add unskippable ads at the beginning of each video.

Also most of the guys they poached have been replaced pretty easily. There's not really a shortage of beat writers out there

ElwoodCuse posted:

If it's not sustainable then something is really wrong with it

The majority of new businesses fail

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Aug 2, 2008

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All that's true but even more mundane stuff helped kill off newspapers, like the death of classifieds and public notice requirements. That used to bring in a gigantic portion of newspapers' income and it basically disappeared overnight

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