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wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

crispix posted:

BBC is putting Battlestar Galactica (2000s) box set on iPlayer and they're showing it on BBC2 tonight from 21:45. Seems like an odd thing for them to do but I like the show. Well, the first 2 seasons before it became wank :psylon:

Yeah, it’s a good series, but I don’t see the point in the BBC buying old US tv to show - they have no reason to exist if they’re not making original, British content.

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Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

wooger posted:

Yeah, it’s a good series, but I don’t see the point in the BBC buying old US tv to show - they have no reason to exist if they’re not making original, British content.

TV production was shut down for months, and now is still way below what it'd normally be. plus lots of events that'd normally have been televised have been cancelled.

so if the BBC buy some cheap filler is that really such a bad thing?

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






People poo poo on Battlestar Galactica all the time but its remarkable we got anything remotely good out of it considering its production. They were stuck on a TV station that had no idea how to deal with something that was critically hailed out of the gate, so they constantly found reasons to gently caress around with it and make it worse. They could have stuck with having 13 episodes a season like they started out, but nope, they bumped it up to 20 in 2 and 3 and then started the concept of "minisodes" which led to a writers strike that damaged it further, plus the TV movies which are mostly unnecessary and then they finally just gave up.

I will also go to bat for it every single time. Theres no show that was bold enough to set a military occupation during the height of the Iraq war which includes a sympathetic depiction of suicide bombers. It was always political in brilliant ways from the start in a way that most media would shy away from now.

The soundtrack completely owns too. I'm glad Bear McCreary has gone on to have a lot of success in his career but his work on BSG is incredible.

Gorn Myson fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Sep 5, 2020

Strawman
Feb 9, 2008

Tortuga means turtle, and that's me. I take my time but I always win.


wooger posted:

Yeah, it’s a good series, but I don’t see the point in the BBC buying old US tv to show - they have no reason to exist

Strawman
Feb 9, 2008

Tortuga means turtle, and that's me. I take my time but I always win.


Gorn Myson posted:

People poo poo on Battlestar Galactica all the time but its remarkable we got anything remotely good out of it considering its production. They were stuck on a TV station that had no idea how to deal with something that was critically hailed out of the gate, so they constantly found reasons to gently caress around with it and make it worse. They could have stuck with having 13 episodes a season like they started out, but nope, they bumped it up to 20 in 2 and 3 and then started the concept of "minisodes" which led to a writers strike that damaged it further, plus the TV movies which are mostly unnecessary and then they finally just gave up.

I will also go to bat for it every single time. Theres no show on TV that was bold enough to set a military occupation on TV during the height of the Iraq war which includes a sympathetic depiction of suicide bombers. It was always political in brilliant ways from the start in a way that most media would shy away from now.

The soundtrack completely owns too. I'm glad Bear McCreary has gone on to have a lot of success in his career but his work on BSG is incredible.

First 2 (and a bit) series were great. The way battlestar galactica treated it's gay characters was bizarre, not mentioning it at all except in the straight to DVD film that wasn't initially intended to be shown on TV. A real relic of the early 2000s

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Strawman posted:

First 2 (and a bit) series were great. The way battlestar galactica treated it's gay characters was bizarre, not mentioning it at all except in the straight to DVD film that wasn't initially intended to be shown on TV. A real relic of the early 2000s
The straight to DVD thing is the problem of the production. I'm pretty sure Gaeta's relationship was depicted in the season 4 minisodes, which also explored his motivations in that season, and they aren't even on any of the Blu Rays or DVDs in the US or the UK. So if you're going back to watch it now you probably have to find some poo poo YouTube compilation of them. As for the depictions of gay people, I mean, this was mid-00s, I don't remember finding anything about it remarkable at the time. I know the writers talked a lot about sexuality, so I wonder if they either had no idea of how to include them in the show or they were just told they weren't allowed to.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Gorn Myson posted:


The soundtrack completely owns too. I'm glad Bear McCreary has gone on to have a lot of success in his career but his work on BSG is incredible.

Dude is some kind of mad genius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPu3XBSlJyk
loving accordions!

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
They only showed the pilot last night and apparently they're not showing any more of the series on BBC2 - just iPlayer? Lol what are they doing :/

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

wooger posted:

Yeah, it’s a good series, but I don’t see the point in the BBC buying old US tv to show - they have no reason to exist if they’re not making original, British content.
When I was a kid, the BBC ran loads of US shows in prime time - the quality was variable, obviously, but it brought us things like Star Trek, Mission: Impossible, MASH, The Rockford Files, Starsky & Hutch and so on.

Then at some point (in the 90s, I think?) it was decided that, for BBC1 at least, everything had to be home-grown. So say hello to Saturday night high-quality hits like Crime Traveller and Bugs!

(BBC2 at least still ran US stuff, so we got The X Files and 24 that way. Until Sky inevitably outbid them.)

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
The thing that bugs me about BSG on BBC2 is that i'm sure it's doing that typical US show sightly sped up on UK TV thing. As a result everyone sounds slightly higher pitch than they should.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Kin posted:

The thing that bugs me about BSG on BBC2 is that i'm sure it's doing that typical US show sightly sped up on UK TV thing. As a result everyone sounds slightly higher pitch than they should.

4% speed up is pretty much the only way to air film on PAL broadcasts, not much you can do about it. It’s good that more modern delivery methods just output 24p and TVs these days just accept it.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
So is the first episode “28”?

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

The_Doctor posted:

So is the first episode “28”?

Think theres a miniseries before that

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001


The_Doctor posted:

So is the first episode “28”?

...33?

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
...it's slightly sped up, you see.

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001


The_Doctor posted:

...it's slightly sped up, you see.
Lol, nice.

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.

EL BROMANCE posted:

4% speed up is pretty much the only way to air film on PAL broadcasts, not much you can do about it. It’s good that more modern delivery methods just output 24p and TVs these days just accept it.

I had never considered that before.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

Kin posted:

The thing that bugs me about BSG on BBC2 is that i'm sure it's doing that typical US show sightly sped up on UK TV thing. As a result everyone sounds slightly higher pitch than they should.
When did you last watch TV?!
This hasn't been a thing since terrestrial analogue.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.

Payndz posted:

When I was a kid, the BBC ran loads of US shows in prime time - the quality was variable, obviously, but it brought us things like Star Trek, Mission: Impossible, MASH, The Rockford Files, Starsky & Hutch and so on.

Then at some point (in the 90s, I think?) it was decided that, for BBC1 at least, everything had to be home-grown. So say hello to Saturday night high-quality hits like Crime Traveller and Bugs!

(BBC2 at least still ran US stuff, so we got The X Files and 24 that way. Until Sky inevitably outbid them.)
My teenage years were defined by The BBC2 weekday 6PM slot. It was the tv slot that mattered: Fresh Prince, Star Trek TNG, Startrek DS9, Startrek Voyager , Simpsons, Robot Wars, Buffy, Quantum Leap, Malcom in the Middle, Sliders, Roswell, Farscape, ...

Sometime in the noughties, it became a dumping ground for cheap quiz shows and other tat.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.

Khablam posted:

When did you last watch TV?!
This hasn't been a thing since terrestrial analogue.
The need to convert from 30fps to 25fps hasn't gone away with the switch to digital.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

Pablo Bluth posted:

The need to convert from 30fps to 25fps hasn't gone away with the switch to digital.
No, but doing it by speeding up the material is an artefact of analogue broadcast. There's a miriad ways of achieving it now, and most people are watching 24/25/30fps content interchangeably on a 60hz display without ever noticing.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
Of course BSG was filmed in 24p not 30p. Looking at BBC specific technical delivery standards document (PDF).,

The BBC posted:

24p and 24/1.001p to 25p – speed change is the recommended conversion process.
.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Pablo Bluth posted:

Sometime in the noughties, it became a dumping ground for cheap quiz shows and other tat.

Flog it, then The Weakest Link.
The hour of the day when you could hear the shout all over the land 'Turn it over to the Simpsons' on channel 4.

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo
The_Doctor’s gag was excellent

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Pablo Bluth posted:

My teenage years were defined by The BBC2 weekday 6PM slot. It was the tv slot that mattered: Fresh Prince, Star Trek TNG, Startrek DS9, Startrek Voyager , Simpsons, Robot Wars, Buffy, Quantum Leap, Malcom in the Middle, Sliders, Roswell, Farscape, ...

Sometime in the noughties, it became a dumping ground for cheap quiz shows and other tat.

Yes, agree fully.

They wonder why anyone under 30 barely watches TV (which there are obviously other reasons for) but none of the TV that we used to watch is even there any more.

Saturday morning kids shows ( the lovely studio ones with cartoons interspersed) don’t exist either as far as I know.

In the case of the BBCs latest purchases though, they’re not even going to be shown on TV, iPlayer only. Maybe if they haven’t got any new content, and can’t make any content, they should just not show anything at all, and give us back some license fee.

They have decades of never repeated BBC stuff they could repeat, or make available of iPlayer anyway, surely?

echoplex
Mar 5, 2008

Stainless Style

Pablo Bluth posted:

My teenage years were defined by The BBC2 weekday 6PM slot. It was the tv slot that mattered: Fresh Prince, Star Trek TNG, Startrek DS9, Startrek Voyager , Simpsons, Robot Wars, Buffy, Quantum Leap, Malcom in the Middle, Sliders, Roswell, Farscape, ...

Sometime in the noughties, it became a dumping ground for cheap quiz shows and other tat.

Randall and Hopkirk! And a few years prior to that I think Friday 6pm was home to the Gerry Anderson re-runs. Ridiculous cultural eduction, that. Plus on a Friday you'd only have about an hour and a half to wait before the *actually good* comedy would start...

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

Let's also not forget Liquid Television.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
There was also a brief run of a cinematic adventure sports show. It's stuck in my memory because there was a brief nipple shot when a women dived off a waterfall/cliff (ah, the time before we had internet porn overload).

Edit: They Who Date. Found it via the BBC's new online search of old Radio Times. Ran for two seasons between 94-95.

Pablo Bluth fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Sep 7, 2020

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


crispix posted:

BBC is putting Battlestar Galactica (2000s) box set on iPlayer and they're showing it on BBC2 tonight from 21:45. Seems like an odd thing for them to do but I like the show. Well, the first 2 seasons before it became wank :psylon:

Feels like about ten years since they did the same for The Wire just to get people to stop bothering them about it.

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
I think I was rewatching it on amazon or Netflix last year until it suddenly got removed, think I got up to the bit where a few characters go off on a side mission on a garbage ship, which I think I remember being a good place to stop. Might resume it though now if it's on iplayer, should complete the series in time for my license fee to expire.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

wooger posted:

Yes, agree fully.

They wonder why anyone under 30 barely watches TV (which there are obviously other reasons for) but none of the TV that we used to watch is even there any more.

Saturday morning kids shows ( the lovely studio ones with cartoons interspersed) don’t exist either as far as I know.

In the case of the BBCs latest purchases though, they’re not even going to be shown on TV, iPlayer only. Maybe if they haven’t got any new content, and can’t make any content, they should just not show anything at all, and give us back some license fee.

They have decades of never repeated BBC stuff they could repeat, or make available of iPlayer anyway, surely?

Saturday night was the first time in years I've made a point of putting the TV for something and I assumed they were going to show an episode or two every Saturday. But nope lol

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

I just took a look at the TV guide and it does seem rather pathetic now.

I used to love getting up in a morning and watching Going Live or Get Fresh or Live & Kicking or Ghost Train.

Hell, i even appreciated Number 73 and Parallel 9 when they were airing.

Seems a shame not to have them anymore.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
I remember Motor Mouth having the Batman:TAS premiere.

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

Kids will never know the joy of going to school and being part of the large group of people discussing the Knightmare episode yesterday where they actually WON!!

That show was drat stressful to a 11 year old.

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?

Tsietisin posted:

Kids will never know the joy of going to school and being part of the large group of people discussing the Knightmare episode yesterday where they actually WON!!

Given it was usually broadcast on a Friday, you are correct, most won't have known that joy!

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

It was broadcast on Mondays for the first couple of seasons.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Tsietisin posted:

Kids will never know the joy of going to school and being part of the large group of people discussing the Knightmare episode yesterday where they actually WON!!

That show was drat stressful to a 11 year old.

WARNING TEAM

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

Ooooohhhh... Naaaasssty....

The graphics with the face falling apart used to freak me the gently caress out.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Tsietisin posted:

Ooooohhhh... Naaaasssty....

The graphics with the face falling apart used to freak me the gently caress out.

Same, because the speed with which it fell apart when it was visible was way too fast. It meant the player would have been dead in about 20 seconds.

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Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
This is a cool searchable archive of old Radio Times between 1923 and 2009
https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/

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