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Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Remember when Eastender and Coronation Street were only on once or twice a week. Those were the days.

I wonder how many years it will be before they're hour long episodes on daily resulting in a 5 hour marathon of them on a Sunday. :suicide:

# ¿ Sep 7, 2010 23:52

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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 11:01

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

I was under the impression that Larry King was a highly intelligent individual as well as a hard hitting to the point kind of interviewer?

Isn't Piers Morgan just an ignorant prick?

# ¿ Sep 8, 2010 17:49

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Well in continuing my self hating personality by ploughing through the rest of season 4 of spooks i've noticed one little oddity. All of their news reports are being presented on Sky News. As a BBC show, isn't that a little odd? Or is it like something to do with The Bubble where they didn't want the public to see anything fake ever broadacst on a BBC newscast, whether it was in a self produced TV show or not.

# ¿ Sep 8, 2010 20:29

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Akuma posted:

I don't know the answer but just so you know it's not actually made by the BBC.

No? I always assumed that since it was on BBC1 and then BBC3 that it was a BBC show.

# ¿ Sep 8, 2010 20:41

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Akuma posted:

Nah it's made by Kudos. They do a lot of shows for the BBC but they're independent. They also do Hustle and Law & Order: UK.

Never knew that. I only really noticed it at first because it was the same news anchor in all the previous episodes and he was also doing the same role in Shaun of the Dead.

# ¿ Sep 8, 2010 21:11

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Akuma posted:

That would get me to watch Eastenders. Especially if someone took a cue from Nicholas Cage in the remake.

I would start to watch eastenders if it gradually morphed into The League of Gentlemen. Every couple of months, something slightly weird happens or pops up in the background of the set, something you'd barely even notice. As the months go on things get slightly darker and darker until you've got the local butcher selling "special meat" that everyone finds delicious and Arthur Fowlers corpse is seen skulking behind his old house.

On a related subject of crap TV (Eastenders, not LoG), i now understand fully where all of the criticism for Spooks comes from. Season 5. With it's government coup, a bomb that's almost as bad as a nuke but not quite in London and they hired a former baddie who helped kill one of the original cast members. :sigh:

She alo looks like Anneka Rice. :smith:

At this rate, I half expect Danny to just stroll back in as a bad guy like Tony did in 24.

Does it get better or should I give up on this now?

# ¿ Sep 10, 2010 21:24

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

I was in a cinema down in London yesterday and i saw an advert for this Cray brothers drama thing. It's got the guy from Spooks (season 4 onwards) and one of the League of Gentlemen guys in it, but i missed it's name. It actually looked quite good, but it was an ITV production :psyduck:

edit: You also all need to go see Buried because it's awesome.

# ¿ Oct 15, 2010 12:46

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Quanta posted:

I actually mentioned the programme before but no-one replied (pretty much says everything about the state of ITV). It's called Whitechapel, and it's in its second series. It's extremely well made and different to other detective shows in its tone and atmosphere. It's one of the few outstanding programmes that have appeared on ITV recently.

The first series was about copycat Jack The Ripper murders. I thought all three episodes were excellent, although, at first, I was hesitant about watching it because I find the subject of Jack The Ripper tedious. However the writing, character development, the noir settings and atmosphere of the first series made it very enjoyable and engaging.

I've got to say I enjoyed the first Whitechapel more than Sherlock. I'd recommend watching the 2009 broadcast first.

Oh right, i just thought it was some kind of new minseries thing. It starts off going on about copycat murders of the crays, then it flat out says that it's the kids of one of the Cray brothers and they pretty much run the city or whatever just like their fathers did.

It doesn't seem as badass if it's some gimmicky "copycat some historical nasty" crime drama show.

# ¿ Oct 15, 2010 13:43

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

LampkinsMateSteve posted:

Bye bye, Charlie Brooker on Screen Burn. It was fun.

He goes out with a bang though:

"I'd like to say that I wasn't nasty about women but I'd be lying. I wrote that Ann Widdecombe had a face like a haunted cave in Poland"

He and Frankie Boyle need to come together and write a book full of the best insults to say to someone.

# ¿ Oct 17, 2010 00:41

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

reflir posted:

HOLY SHITDICKING CHRIST

It's a shame they're going with guest hosts again, but on the other hand, who could take over really?

No-one, it needs to be killed off ASAP. It's tired and stale and you can tell that even Phil doesnt give a gently caress anymore. He's probably only still there for the regular paycheck.

# ¿ Oct 19, 2010 23:35

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Rapey Joe Stalin posted:

Why do goons have this problem whereby as soon as a programme changes they have to harp on about how it was in the old days or how the show needs to be cancelled now because it is different.
Buzzcocks is still funnier than most things on telly, and is a prefectly good waste of half an hour.

Rose-tinted autists ITT.

Because it's devolved into a show where they bring guests on simply to take the piss out of them. A good number of the guests don't know the answers to the questions or are there to blatantly plug their latest lovely album and barely contribute anything to an episode short of being the punching bag for whatever the regular guest/hosts throw at them.

On a more upbeat note, I just fixed my telly and caught that Harry and Paul show. It was actually quite funny.

# ¿ Oct 21, 2010 00:53

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Adrianics posted:

edit: And who watches any panel shows because they care what the answers to the questions are??

Have I got news for you; You have been watching; The Bubble; Mock the week; Would i Lie to you. Amongst others.

# ¿ Oct 21, 2010 11:42

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Bah, Monday evening on the week leading up to Christmas and there's gently caress all on the Telly. :smith:

# ¿ Dec 20, 2010 18:09

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

What's all this drama with Vince Cable and BSkyB about?

All of the news stations are calling for his head, and i'm trying to understand why without some kind of lovely news bias (such as the hypocricy of not condemning those undercover reporters posing as constituent yet insinuating condemnation towards Assange).

# ¿ Dec 21, 2010 23:09

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Flatscan posted:

From what I gather it's because he said he'd do everything he could to stop Murdoch's buying up of the UK media, including blocking the deal for News Corp to buy 100% of BSkyB.

If the BBC are throwing a shitfit about it too they're bigger loving idiots than I thought.

The report i caught on BBC had their bias as gently caress government specialist almost frothing at the mouth for him being completely fired. I even caught a disgustingly scoffing :smug:

from him when he was talking about part of it (i think he was bashing the lib dems). ITV had the typical dramatic clamoring about "why isn't he sacked", "what does an MP have to do to get sacked".

If it's all about what you say then the whole loving thing is disgusting and i've now totally lost whatever little faith i had left in conventional TV news.

# ¿ Dec 21, 2010 23:31

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

SeanBeansShako posted:

Poor Vince Cable, one of the few lone voices of sanity in a whirl wind of utter poo poo.

I can't help but think he was set up. I mean the people in there recording him were undercover reporters or such. I wouldn't put it past Murdoch/some Tory oval office to send someone in there to get Cable's offhand personal opinions on the matter and leak them in order to get him kicked off the decision(not fired because Osborne is a dithering mongoloid) and replace him with someone conveniently in complete favour of Murdoch and his enterprises.

Watch Ofcom fall in line when they release their report or go against it and have massive budget cuts or reductions in power.

# ¿ Dec 22, 2010 01:46

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

hookerbot 5000 posted:

Mark Thomson from the BBC says that 'Britain needs a channel like Fox News'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/17/mark-thompson-bbc-fox-news

I find that really scary, the BBC seems to me to be pretty much bang on with impartial reporting and reading some of the threads that pop up in GBS about how awful Fox News is I would hate to see a UK version - I imagine it to be a televised Daily Mail.

Holy poo poo. That's it, our country is properly hosed.

He actually advocates opinion orientated reporting to run alongside impartial factual reporting. All of which is based on the idea that the rules are outdated because of the internet? The news is already opinionated to poo poo and back. Tabloids read like mental wank rags to some and the level of inaccuracy and skewed reporting on TV is already at an unreasonably high level. The last thing we need is the likes of Glenn Beck riling up the ignorant people of our country (of which there are many) into believing opinion over fact.

This is like watching a trainwreck in slow motion, but we're all on the loving train.

# ¿ Dec 22, 2010 02:43

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

hookerbot 5000 posted:

He was, the 'Son's and Daughters of England' bit still makes me laugh to think about it. And I'll have to look back at the guest host list but I've felt pretty underwhelmed by a lot of them. But then I really loved Simon Amstell even though he did go a bit too far sometimes.

Simon Amstell never went too far. :colbert:

If some of those stuck up "celebs" cant take a ribbing with jest then they deserve to have the piss taken out of them even more. You don't willingly throw yourself into the spotlight and decide "i'm never taking any criticism, gently caress you, i'm special", especially if it's obvious to everyone you're a minimally tallented flash in the pan.

# ¿ Dec 22, 2010 15:19

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Urgh, this is another steaming pile of liquid crap poured on an all already solid steaming pile of a crappy loving day. Due to being stuck living in perhaps the worst loving area of the UK, not only is the internet connection here limited to a shoddy ADSL connection (that's so bad i can barely watch iplayer), but the digital TV signal is so loving horrid that i can't even pick up channel 4 today.

I'm stuck with just BBC 1, 2, 3 and QV bloody C. :mad:

# ¿ Dec 25, 2010 16:22

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Adrianics posted:

Come Fly With Me is a literal abomination.

"Dog is dead"

# ¿ Dec 26, 2010 00:30

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

I was sure i read that Die Hard 2 was on tonight. Anyone know what channel?

# ¿ Dec 26, 2010 22:37

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

cloudchamber posted:

It's on Film4.

Cheers. Although, the signal is still as lovely as it was yesterday and i can't even pick the channel up properly :/ that could be why i missed it on the TV guide thingy.

I thought we were long past the lovely times of having crap TV reception, especially with the nationwide switchover to digital next year.

# ¿ Dec 26, 2010 22:54

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Flatscan posted:

You probably need to upgrade your aerial.

Possibly. I just think there are loads of things hosed up about here. My mum using the blender in the kitchen downstairs fucks up the reception on some channels, for example.

As well as that, the BT hub is in the living room downstairs and i'd say that, at most, it's maybe 20 feet away from my PC yet i only ever get 2 bars of signal strength. So there might be some crazy signal blocking poo poo with the house i'm in.

I was thinking about trying out that BTFON thing that's being advertised, but my computer says that it's an unsecured connection so i'm a little wary of switching over to it (despite it getting a better signal strength).

# ¿ Dec 27, 2010 01:41

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Brown Moses posted:

The most suprising thing so far was the role Ricky Gervais played in his recent return to live stand up.

Was it that he was watching the telly and Gervais popped on with one of his shows about how he sent his stupid mate to another country to say stupid ignorant things into a camera; and while he was sitting there (with Ricky constantly giggling like a moron), he had an epiphany that comedy like this was complete and utter poo poo and he had to come back and help save the genre?

I might go and pick the book up tomorrow because i've been looking for a good comedy read for a while now.

# ¿ Dec 29, 2010 17:01

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Flatscan posted:

Tramadol Nights update: Still not funny.

This is the first one i've tuned into and it's loving gash. Boyle should stick to crassly ripping the pish out of current events.

# ¿ Dec 29, 2010 23:57

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

It's sickening that the news won't let go of this sodding flu thing despite GPs saying that the rise is normal for this time of year.

It's like they're desperately trying to make a story out of nothing now that the drama of having snow during winter is over and done with.

edit: "FLU DEATHS" on the BBC :ughh:

# ¿ Dec 30, 2010 19:25

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Ratjaculation posted:

Ah, I see. I don't mind Friends at all, but never saw episodes that explained that. I have the same problem with Him & Her that they are both unemployed and live in a bigger flat than me

If anything, what's unbelievably is some of the preogresssions. For example, Rachel becoming some kind of super fashion executive in just 5 years or so of being some retarded ditzy chick who couldn't do much more than pour coffee (and not very well IIRC).

All of the other characters stayed within their grooves, but that was just retarded. There's also the amount of free time they seem to have on the show. I assume that every episode was at the weekend because they'd just be sitting at that same loving coffe house every day or lounging about their apartments every day, it seemed quite weird how little we actually saw them at work over the course of the entire show.

That's one of the reasons HIMYM is good, it pays attention to all of these little details and even make call backs to them. We only ever really see the group together at the bar they're in at night after their day and (in the case of the recent episode) when one of the characters is off doing something plot centric during the day, he happens to be in his work attire that we've seen him wear in the few times we've had scenes of him at work.

HIMYM is compared to friends (particularly so by E4) because it's vaguely similar in that it's a a sitcom about a group of friends living in new york. But every sitcom is usually about a group of X living in X, so that's about the extent to which the similarities end.

HIMYM is so much better than friends it's shocking.

# ¿ Jan 4, 2011 15:55

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Noonsaliwah posted:

The skit is that the MANdrawer is full of things only the MAN can use, and the woman may not go near it because the MAN will handle this!
The only problem is that I don't know anybody whose family had a notably man-exclusive mandrawer, and I'm from the countryside where DIY is rampant. None of my city friends recognise the phenomenon either, is it a middle-class thing?

That's my problem with Michael MacIntyre, that as far as I'm aware, the man drawer doesn't exist.

I'd go as far to say that it doesn't and that's the problem with MacIntyre. Almost everyting he jokes about is some general stereotype, but it's that type of lovely stereotype that people make up to try and sound cool when talking to other people.

"I have a drawer of gadgets in my house that my wife is too stupid to use, har har, look at me say something to try and sound cool and fit into your group of friends".

"i have a lovely car but i take it on the road and race those posh cunts in the fast cars, i'm cool arent i?"

"I'm Michael MacItyre and i'm a funny fucker, you should like me now yeah?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q41eoZXDb64

# ¿ Jan 5, 2011 12:25

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Psybro posted:

Been watching the Eastenders dead baby stuff because although I don't normally watch it, I find it grimly fascinating to see how low they'll go to ramp up the melodrama.

It's ridiculous to the point of being faintly comic.

[Kat and Alfie visit the dead baby]

Kat: THAT'S NOT MY BABY!!
Alfie: ...that's because our baby, he's in heaven now...
Kat: That doesn't look like my baby!
Alfie: ...no Kat, because, he was alive, but now...he's dead
Kat: That literally is not the child that was pulled from my vagina on New Year's Eve!
Alfie: ...no, because that child is with the angels now Kat, smiling down on us...

[Roxy visits Ronnie]

Roxy: Ronnie, I know that you're upset about what happened to Kat, but you need to get over it because you're going to be a great mum.
Ronnie: I can no longer live out this masquerade. It's all a lie.
Roxy: I know you feel that way now, Ronnie, but it'll be fine...
Ronnie: The child you are holding is literally Kat and Alfie's live child, who I swapped with the corpse of my dead one. I have written it all down in this diary with lengthy annotations in the margins.
Roxy: Ronnie, you're hormonal right now...

Plus Jessie Wallace's melted face irks me.

I was wondering about that because i've been pulled in the same way you have. Surely not all babies look the same and while it's only been a few days since he was born wouldn't a parent kinda know that the baby looks slightly different to the one they've been looking at for the last few days?

Even if that's not conclusive enough, wouldn't any half decent hospital pick up on the baby having different vitals like bloodtype, weight, eye colour, and whatever other medical record things they might do to babies when they're born?

This isn't the most ridiculous thing to happen though. Whatserface, the ginger-fucker, was able to go to an airport and get on a plane in minutes with the cops out looking for her while all of the flights were totally hosed because of the snow. :psyduck:

I need to stop myself tuning into this garbage.

# ¿ Jan 9, 2011 02:18

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

I would love to see some kind of daily long running fattie show, where there are 2 adult fatties and 2 child fatties, one of each sex.

Basically, the show would have two slots. One in the morning and one at night. The morning one would have a trainer listing exactly what these 4 people (and in turn, you Mr. Fattie) should eat that day and when. In addition to this, the trainer lists the exercises that you are to do that day.

An evening show on the same day would consist of a follow along exercise routine thing that covers most of what was the instructed daily exercise was.

Consider it some kind of social experiment, run it for 1 year and see if there is any kind of positive outcome.

Finally, get the government involved in this endeavor by providing an incentive to be healthy people by providing some kind of tax relief or some poo poo to any household that has a bmi within healthy values.

None of that would probably work, but gently caress it, i'd like to see something that crazy be attempted just to shake things up a little.

# ¿ Jan 11, 2011 15:35

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

What i think is funny is that the Jeremy Kyle show is like Eastenders in Real life.

I wouldn't be surprised if the writers tuned into that to steal ideas for the show.

# ¿ Jan 12, 2011 09:57

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Brown Moses posted:

I think it was a reference to Kat Moons scary makeup.

She looked like something from that star trek film that was on over the holidays. One of those people with their faces stretched all over the place.

# ¿ Jan 12, 2011 14:30

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Brown Moses posted:

Fish have an annoying tendency to swim next to fish of other species, and not always where you expect them to be, making it very difficult to target a specific species for fishing. The amount of dead fish thrown back into the see because of quotas is disgusting, totally wasteful, and something that really needs to change.

This may be steering things a little off topic from TV but is there a good reason why fish farms haven't been developed to breed and then harvest fish much in the same way as it's been done for chicken? I mean if there's such an outrage and worry over dwindling stocks and all of those crazy nutbars on the traulers are going on about how tough it is. Then set up a bunch of those farms and give those nut bars the jobs involved with running them.

This would:
Leave natural reserves alone;
Not kill off any unneeded fish;
Keep us provided with tasty tasty cod/whatever your choice of fish is;
Keep those fishermen employed with an income.
Prevent TV from being flooded with "another camera crew on a boat" shows.

# ¿ Jan 12, 2011 17:00

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Ugh, gently caress this insomnia. I'm stuck watching this Andrew Marr show and he's interviewing the Milliband Labour leader whilst being a confrontational, uninformed dick. He's trying to do a Paxman without actually knowing gently caress all about economics.

He keeps on slipping in little quips like "blah blah blah Labour failing", "when people were talking about blah blah blah Labour failing" and on top of that he doesnt even seem to know how interest works.

They were talking about tuition repayments and Milliband rightly pointed out that the rich overall pay less back under the new conditions, Marr just cut him off, flatly saying that he's wrong before briskly moving the conversation on.

These types of presenters need to be purged from TV.

edit: he also keeps on trying to put words in Milliband's mouth. gently caress this unprofessional douche.

edit: haha and this show is going to be followed up by some kind of talk show with Nicky Campbell asking an audience if bankers should go to heaven. :suicide:

Kin fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Jan 16, 2011

# ¿ Jan 16, 2011 10:51

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

thebardyspoon posted:

and more Annie focused episodes.

I hope not, she's the worst actor in the show and with the exception of her being snatched at the end, her plots are loving terrible.

# ¿ Jan 19, 2011 23:03

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

I hope that this 10 O'clock Live mentions current things that are being reported on by actual news stations. Things like the flu thing because it's just been on the news again and it's still disgusting that there are such obvious attempts to make it out to be bigger than it is.

You wanna know how many people died of flu over christmas? Just stated by the news: 40.

It wasn't made clear whether that was just Scotland or the UK as a whole, but here's a little breakdown:

UK
40 out of approximately 61,838,154 = (0.00006%)

Scotland
40 out of approximately 5,168,500 = (0.0007%)

Yup, sounds like something we should definitely be concerned about and something that the Scottish BBC health correspondant should say "we're not out of the woods yet" for. :rolleyes:

Ugh, gently caress it, it's switched off now and i'm never watching it again :colbert:

# ¿ Jan 20, 2011 19:54

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Paying them the bonus is good because of the tax huh? Then why don't you just pay 100% of the bonus as a tax for being dicks?

# ¿ Jan 20, 2011 23:13

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Wasn't really sure what to expect with this show, but it's kind of meh so far.

# ¿ Jan 20, 2011 23:21

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

One of the things i felt last night was that it went by far too quickly and seemed to try and cover far too many things in one sitting.

Seeing as the current news media seems to focus on only three or 4 things per week, i think that's what this show should do too.

Each quarter of the show should focus on one news story only, giving 10 or however many minutes it is, to the topic in the form of a pre-recorded accurate depiction of events (with scathing cinicism) or an interview with a figure involved with it.

Seeing as the show is weekly, perhaps it could wrap up with a "here's the other news you haven't been told about this week" section. Where it [dramatic intro to news headlines style] runs through all the stuff going on in the world that the current news isn't even bothering to report on.

Ideally the show should be on at least twice a week in order to let it cover more material or at least give more time to the current stuff in order to adequately discuss it.

It should also drop the generic "topical segments" like Sarah Palin and instead focus on things that are currently happening that week. The show, after all, is live for a reason.

# ¿ Jan 21, 2011 15:07

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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 11:01

Kin: Nov 4, 2003; Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Psybro posted:

Sarah Palin did basically kill some people in the fortnight prior to the show, it'll probably get more topical as it goes on.

I'm aware of that, the problem is that the segment on her never really insinuated that link at all. It was just a generic "Palin is crazy, haw haw haw" segment.

Star Wars Episode 3 on STV just now. I forgot how loving terrible Anakin's switch to the Dark Side was. "ooh, i'm conflicted. Aww gently caress it, EVIL MODE" *murders some children*

Kin fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Jan 22, 2011

# ¿ Jan 22, 2011 18:06

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