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Royality
Jun 27, 2006
Catherine Tate is an act, it's forced and you can tell. Which makes it even worse. The best example being the awful slag/slang gag.

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Royality
Jun 27, 2006

keveh posted:

Nobody talking about The Trip?

I thought that it was pretty good for a series opener, the impressions went on for a little bit too long though. Definitely enough to make me want to carry on watching it.

It also got me even more excited for the first Alan Partridge clip due out this Friday.

Think it is a pretty dubious concept for a show, but it was kind of interesting to watch and made me laugh a few times. I did get the impression Coogan was close to corpsing a few times though (at least I heard it's improvised rather than scripted).

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
I enjoyed Whites, thought it was a pretty decent show.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
Anyone who dislikes The Office is a humourless grump, and extras is funny too. That said it's clear that Ricky Gervais is a one dimensional comedian (and a fairly cheap one too), but undeniably struck on gold when he co-wrote the office. Stephen Merchant is dreamy though.

And as for Seinfield, I think it's definitely suffered from the legacy it created; most people in this thread were probably too young to watch it thoroughly (I know I was). I've heard it's good, but after suffering through about half my life watching endless Friends repeats (seriously why is this the go to program alongside The Simpsons?) I just feel like I've seen it all before.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
Wow, it really is bad. The sketches are ridiculously poo poo, like they're written by a 15 year old (or Frankie Boyle).

Royality
Jun 27, 2006

SARSattacks posted:

Agreed. Has to go down as one of my all time favourite comedies.

Really? I mean seriously... it had its moments but I do not consider 3 hours of Rob Brydon repeating the same 4 impressions ad nauseum the pinnacle of comedy.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006

lorn Wayne posted:

Mid morning matters with Alan Partridge has been pretty brilliant.

Also screw everyone who hates Sidekick Simon, he's the Lynn of this series. :colbert:

Love Tim Keys! Love Mid-Morning Matters. But I still yearn for more actual Partridge. :(

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
Take Me Out is back on tonight, and at the risk of everyone thinking I'm a total idiot, I love it. It's got the perfect balance of cringey desperate men, and cringey desperate (fat) women.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
Richard Herring did History at Oxford!

Royality
Jun 27, 2006

Idioteque Dance posted:

While there were a handful of more tasteful jokes (though that's not a comment on their quality), I was also pretty speechless when I saw the Japanese schoolgirls. There wasn't any subtext, the actual joke was that they had slanty eyes and talked funny (... because they're Japanese, lol).

Here's a related article by Johann Hari ranting about Little Britain, with much of the same reasoning.

To be fair, they know their demographic very well. Yes, all you need to do is black up or apply some (horrifying) slanty eyed makeup and you're golden.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
No Tim Keys, tvguide.co.uk lied to me. :(

Royality
Jun 27, 2006

FelixMeOneMoreTime posted:

Just finished watching 2010wipe, and it was one of Brooker's best. Is it just me, or is Grace Dent quite a handsome woman?

If by handsome you mean looks like a man, then yes she is handsome.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006

Brown Moses posted:

He says Ricky Gervais was the entertainment co-ordinator (or something) at one of the universities he used to do stand up at, and was a huge fan of Stewart Lee. Then many years later, after Stewart Lee quit stand up, he went to see Ricky Gervais with some friends, and was stunned and horrified to see Ricky Gervais doing what Stewart Lee considered to be material that was very similar to his own style, and playing to massive audiences, when 10 years before Stewart Lee played to near empty theatres doing the same style of comedy.

If Stewart Lee thinks Ricky Gervais' popularity was due to his material alone then I think he's a bit silly. Also he sounds bitter.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006

SeanBeansShako posted:

You can actually track the channel and see how more vile it gets with each passing year since 2002. It really is facinating.

Along these lines, recent changes in the BBC website lead me to believe that it is going down a more 'accessible' path. Today's not a great example, but I've noticed that they're publishing a lot more tabloidy articles. I don't like it damnit!

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
They're all poo poo. :smug:

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
It actually made me want to go and buy a telescope (I love space!). The shot of Jupiter and its moons was incredible, Johnathan Ross seemed underwhelmed though (and he has a fricking observatory the rich, spoilt gently caress!).

And I usually like Dara but I thought he was a bit overbearing on Brian Cox, who I like to just talk at me about space. Didn't realise Cox was the scientific consultant for Sunshine either, the man has fingers in many pies for sure.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006

Daimo posted:

"OMG liek the Earth will go bang, fire and brimstone will fall if the planets line up, in 2012!!!11"

"Can I just make clear, the Myans didnt have a clue, they were useless."

Shut up Briain, stop ruining my science :argh:

-

I love how everyone missed the point about sending in 'YOUR OWN' pictures of the sky!

I did enjoy Brian and Dara cracking up though as they went through the hubble-quality pictures of galaxies captured by 'John from Surrey' and other surely-famous astronomers.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006

A5H posted:

Brian Cox is the best guy in the world and I can't wait to watch on iPlayer. I wonder if he is a goon.

Haha, no chance. The man is not goon material.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
People hating sell-outs is always fairly humourous. So Mark Watson has used his success in stand up and on panel shows to get a advertising campaign selling cider (and innocent smoothies if I remember?), seems like the normal kind of career progression everyone goes through. Do people expect these semi-famous comedians to scoff at such offers and tell them to sod off as it ruins their artistic integrity?

And Frankie Boyle is clearly so far up his own arse now it's painful to listen to anything he says without thinking he is a massive idiot. For some reason he thinks he's the funniest man alive.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006

goatface posted:

poo poo loads of comedians get jobs doing advert voiceovers, it pays the bills while they're writing new material.

Not everyone can phone in a poo poo column for the sun.

I get the impression that Frankie Boyle is one of those people who thinks their stance and viewpoint on what is and isn't allowed in life is completely and absolutely correct. So the thought of the man as intelligent (which he is often said to be) is at odds with that.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006

Ddraig posted:

Anyone with an interest in traditional sideshow magic or mentalist stuff would be wise to track down some of Jim Rose's books. He's the ringleader of a rather famous circus in the states, and is a lot like Derren Brown (not so much the persona, but the pursuit of impressive showmanship and deception).

His book "Snake Oil" has a very brief section on hypnotism and other mental tricks and in a lot of cases it's definitely stooge work or even just plain bribery (also a lot of it has to do with being in unfamiliar circumstances with sensory overload and someone being forceful - a lot of people will cave under such pressure and agree with anything).

In one he mentions that one guy was giving him a lot of trouble so he just briefly whispered to him that he'll give him $100 after the show if he plays along. Just before he took him "out of the trance" he said 'Before you come out, I want you to forever be under the impression that Jim Rose owes you money'

Which is why I don't really like it when Derren uses 'hypnotism' on stage. It's not mysterious or a trick, it's just an act using gullible people. In fact it makes me angry - but moreso at the audience members rather than Derren.

And now allow me to state the obvious!

So he says he's going to play a hypnotic tone which will send 'some' people into a trance like state, if you don't want to be hypnotised put your fingers in your ears. Then he says 'also look at this screen it will prevent you from being hypnotised'. The tone and the screen are both showmanship with absolutely no effects, but he's eliminated people who don't want to be hypnotised (who aren't 'game') and made it sound real and plausible to those who are game.

And then he filters them further by telling them the tone will make them stand up against their will if they're particularly suggestible - he even tells them they're suggestible if they stand! Those who stand up are not only game and 'suggestible' (though I prefer the term stupid) but they also believe they are suggestible. Now most people consider being suggestive a negative characteristic and so those that do don't stand up. If Derren said that people who stand up are usually of above average intelligence everyone would stand up - in fact I vaguely recall he said something along these lines during his 'I will make you stand up at home' show last year. So the only people who stand up are those that simultaneously believe in hypnotism and that they are particularly susceptible to it. This is enough to make them walk around on stage for 20 minutes doing stupid things.

But maybe he also chooses people who stand up earliest; these people signal to Derren that they don't just believe they are suggestible, they believe they are very suggestible. There's probably an element of attention seeking mixed in there too. They wanted to be seen by Derren first in a kind of indirect arse-licking way - 'look how much I believe in your bullshit Derren! Pick me! Pick Me! I'll do anything you want! I won't let you down!'. One of the highlights of the whole show for me was Derren asking the women in the audience to raise their hands if they'd 'lost a grandparent' when they were young and didn't mind talking about this sensitive issue. Seeing a member of the audience desperately flailing and jumping about trying to catch Derren's attention so she could tell Derren about her dead granny perfectly illustrated this. They've neatly self-selected themselves for the trick is the point.

Anyway Derren runs up and around the theatre and just for show has a look and assesses how hypnotised they are (or whatever that part is). He wants to choose the ones that best fit the trick (Ring woman was spot on, whoever said that). He could take any of them and the trick would still work. But he wants to be extra sure so he goes to a place where several hypnotised people are standing close together. He goes up to one and assesses their suitability but they're no good to Derren. Why? Well because they're the first person he came to. The other hypnotees are conscious that he is near to them... but talking to someone else? 'But I am the most suggestible!' they exclaim in their tiny hypnotised, not-really hypnotised brains, 'choooooose me!'. And they hear the shuffling of feet and feel Derren nearby. Derren chooses them. [i]'I knew I was the most suggestible!' they joyfully think, [i]'Not only did Derren choose me, he chose me above other suggestible people... I must be amazingly suggestible! Truly I am a bonafide idiot!. And they are escorted to the stage as Derren has made it so only things above the shoulders become hypnotised (I think it would be better at this point if Derren put them in a wheelbarrow to truly highlight how deeply hypnotised they were).

The trick is performed, the individual wakes up and swears they don't remember a thing. Of course your first reaction upon waking up and seeing that you're no longer sitting in your seat, but have been teleported 25 metres onto a stage in front of hundreds of people would probably be to scream or poo poo yourself or anything really that isn't like it's the most natural thing in the world.



I am not really sure why I wrote that wall of text I just got carried away. I should add I do love Derren Brown, and if anyone can even begin to explain how he did the engraved coin trick I'd like to know it. Occams Razor is usually a pretty good starting tool for these things but even the simplest suggestions seem complicated with this one.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
^^^
During the backstage bit I half expected The Rock to jump in and lay out P+T with 'A STEEL CHAIR!!!!'.


DaWolfey posted:

That whole mystery adjudicator thing, what the gently caress was that about? Some guy in Rosses ear who he uses to gloat "Nope guys! He beat you!" Seems like some sort of misdirection to me :colbert:

It was a magic 'consultant', which means it was an experienced magician hired by the show to refer to in case of any disputes between Penn and Teller and the trailing magician. The tricks were all shown and explained in all their detail to this consultant prior to the show so that he knew everything. Thus when P+T were adamant there were false shuffles Johnathan Ross asked the consultant (who knew the trick completely, knew the technical jargon for such a trick and was impartial) and got the answer that there were no false shuffles involved in the trick.

Remember the prize of performing at Penn and Tellers Las Vegas show, to a non-famous magician, would be huge and a large incentive to lie or bend the truth in order to win and so this consultant was necessary.

I suspect they mentioned the trick deck for the physchology guy for much the reasons you thought. It's a bland trick disguised as something more. They were probably angry he'd try to fool them with something elementary.

And as for the guy who won with the envelope trick, well I think you could tell by his reaction that to get the gig was huge for him. I don't think they just got some amatuer on and planted him as some kind of underdog success story - I think that's just what happened!

Royality fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Jan 8, 2011

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
^^^^
And yeah, this. The kind of people who vote for these kind of shows have no discernible personal taste, and merely regurgitate whatever the general consensus is around them. This is why N-Dubz are liked by 90% of the population and why Little Britain is a comedy classic.

In truth The Trip and Grandma's House were pretty mediocre shows, and I don't really understand how they were particularly 'sophisticated'. The Trip was just 3 hours of impressions and Grandma's house 3 hours of Simen Amstell failing to act. I should add that I enjoyed both the programs to an extent, but neither are deserving of any award.

That said I really enjoyed Whites so what do I know. :suicide:

And best comedy quiz should have gone to Celebrity Juice because it's absolutely hilarious (if you're into nob, vagina and boob gags).

Royality fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Jan 23, 2011

Royality
Jun 27, 2006

Paperhouse posted:

Both were still immeasurably better than loving Miranda, even if you think they were mediocre, which I don't personally. You generalised them way too much as well, both shows had some excellent writing and it's kind of a shame that Amstell wasn't very good at acting but I do think he got better as it went on.

I love Steve Coogan and Rob Brydon as much as the next man, but The Trip just wasn't very good. It was underwhelming and forgettable. Grandma's house was better, but it still wasn't consitently good enough to get too excited about. I'm not saying Miranda is better - I think they're all pretty bad - but I don't think The Trip or Grandma's House deserve any awards either.

I like my comedies to make me laugh a lot, not once an episode.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006

Trin Tragula posted:

I don't get why anyone involved thinks that anyone on that show can hang with the likes of Campbell or Willetts in a straight interview.

But David Mitchell is so intelligent, everyone says so! It's the same kind of mentality that makes people who aren't experts in a topic feel like they have a valid opinion because all the company they keep are constantly telling them how clever they are.

Makes you appreciate what Paxman and ilk do alot more now. It's obviously very hard.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
Cypriots and Greeks go loving mental for Eurovision. I lived with a few of them and they were genuinely perplexed when I told them I wouldn't be making an extra special effort to watch it. They had a huge party and were especially loud that evening (they have one volume and it's SHOUTING).

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
Anyone who thinks Kevin from Eggheads wouldn't destroy all of the Chasers is so wrong. Some of the other Eggheads (I'm looking at you Judith and CJ) aren't great, but Kevin is the loving daddy. Man knows so much about the world he can pretty much deduce any answer he doesn't know (which is rare because he knows EVERYTHING).

I'm pretty gay for Kevin.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
If it's modelled on Australian masterchef I might start watching it. Aussy masterchef is just awesome. The only downside to it is that the best chef usually leaves the competition like 7 weeks before the end because they guessed an ingredient wrong in an elimination challenge.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006

Gelf posted:

Episodes really prooved to be an excellent show. Glad I stuck with it beyond the slow start.


Yeah, the first episode was a real stinker (imo) but the last few were actually really funny. I especially liked the fight at the end, perhaps not the most subtle bit of comedy but slapstick never gets old

Royality
Jun 27, 2006

J33uk posted:

Heston fixing up the hospital food was pretty good. Although I'm not sure why food for kids automatically has to be super wacky and gross, not sure if my ten year old self would have been impressed. Next week with the attempt to spruce up the food at Cineworld seems even less well thought out, if you're going to see a film and you are focusing on what you're eating then you've hosed up already.

Nothing better than stale nachos with delicious rubbery cheese sauce that cost £6. There's something reassuringly masochistic about it.

But the pick and mix at the cinema is always a cut above. But again it's like £3 for 100g. loving pricey cunts.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
It's seriously annoying that they're not showing this on Iplayer afterwards. I've only just realised how much stuff I have missed, I am sad. :(

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
Don't know if anyone's listening to the Moyles Comedy Dave Radio 1 thingy but it's reaching climax time, so might be worth listening to for a bit. I was listening to it last night during their time with Kissy Sell Out (I don't know either) and it was very funny seeing Patrick Kielty and Thandie Newton turn up drunk (on the webcam) and explain they only met eachother for the first time 2 hours earlier.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
And now after watching online for hours during the last 2 days, after perservering through thick and thin, I had to go out and closed my browser. On the way back I find out Fearne is getting her bikini on, try to load the stream and the server is overloaded. gently caress YOU FAIRWEATHER PERVERTS I PUT A SHIFT IN I DESERVE TO SEE FEARNE IN A BIKINI DAMNIT.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
Is it possible to like Stewart Lee and Keith Lemon or do you have to choose? Because I like comedy vehicle and I like celebrity juice, what am I to do?

Also how can I sign up for that channel 4 show, it seems like a good way to take drugs without all the shame, and you probably get a team of doctors feeding you morphine for the comedown afterwards. And all for science!

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
What does it matter if some kid has been groomed for 2 years anyways when everything from the editing to the judges comments to the media commentary are manipulated to influence voters choices. At every level BGT is a marketing vehicle for some new act that can make some quick money for a few people, don't tell anyone but Britain's real talent is too busy being talented to apply for some lovely ITV show.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
X Factor feels dead without Simon on it. It's like a slap in the face to the British public and it hurts. :(

Royality
Jun 27, 2006
The Royal Bodyguard is so bad I've had to watch all 3 really bad episodes on iplayer because I still can't fathom how such a bad programme could have been made without anyone stopping and saying 'hold on this is really bad'.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006

Z-Magic posted:

What's in the public interest isn't necessarily what the public is interested in.

I don't think Mongrels counts.

Royality
Jun 27, 2006

Mickolution posted:

The only way I can see Eggheads working would be a DVD or computer game where they actually asked them the questions and it comes up on screen like on the show. A lot of work for them, though.

I had that Blockbusters one when I was a kid but completely forgot about it until you mentioned it. Loved it. Had Wheel of Fortune too, which was fun.

They have Eggheads on quiz machines in pubs which is basically this, it's literally impossible to win though. And CJ and Judith get a disproportionate amount of questions right.

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Royality
Jun 27, 2006

ChuckDHead posted:

This has been a somewhat better episode of The Royal Bodyguard than usual (I just keep watching it for some reason). It's nice to see a bit of a divergence from the usual routine format. Still not the BBC's best comedy by a long shot, but the best episode of this since the Christmas one.

This is still the worst programme on television, but it's just so bad it's mesmerising. It has no redeeming qualities other than how bad it is. It's weird.

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