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"make like an abit motherboard and stop POSTing" doesn't have the same zing to it if you're telling me they were actually good boards
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Oct 27, 2022 03:33
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:ABit also produced a dual socket 370 that could fit two Celeron CPUs, back when scale-out wasn't tightly controlled by the CPU manufacturers. Abit was like Asrock before Asrock
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Oct 27, 2022 07:13
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Abit also made the only nForce 2 board that i know of that had quality non-bursting VRM caps
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Oct 27, 2022 10:58
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:ABit also produced a dual socket 370 that could fit two Celeron CPUs, back when scale-out wasn't tightly controlled by the CPU manufacturers. Here's a recent good video about one of those boards https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNdHuFxowwk
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Oct 27, 2022 11:30
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Oh, PC Chips, haven't heard that name in a while  13900K die porn: 
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Oct 27, 2022 12:56
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Hasturtium posted:On the bad: I remember the ECS K7S5A, a motherboard so awful it went through at least five revisions. A friend of mine got a special on one at Fry’s which literally wouldn’t work with one class of CPUs or another because the wrong kind of resistors were soldered onto part of the board. Even a “good” one was flaky, and then most of them died of capacitor plague. VIA was just half a rung above SiS, and we only put up with them because there wasn’t another high profile supporter of AMD chipsets for Slot/Socket A for years. Those were fun times with poo poo hardware.  I made a Duron system with one forever ago. Somehow I managed to keep the box this whole time. Board and CPU are long gone, box is just full of misc. computer parts. It really blows my mind how fast we went from 2 to 4 cores being standard and good enough to "gently caress it, put as many cores as you can fit on there"
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Oct 27, 2022 15:01
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TomR posted:
I did the same thing. I still have the Duron since it was my first computer part. I think it was like $50.
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Oct 27, 2022 15:02
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TomR posted:
MOAR
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Love the sticker touting a Toms Hardware review saying "we're better than 760, AliMagik, and KT266". One chipset that was basically only made as low volume, high price stopgap because Via/Sis/Ali were so behind... with the normal buggy AGP and graphics issues of the era. One chipset so late, buggy, and disappointing that it basically put ALi on the path to going out of business. And the original KT266, a DDR chipset slower than their SDR chipset in some software.  Obviously Intel was going through their own uh... troubles in that time period too, with Willamette P4s and rambus and chipset bugs etc. Wild times. Cygni fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Oct 27, 2022 |
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Oct 27, 2022 16:57
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Josh Lyman posted:Abit KT7A-RAID was a goat motherboard in 2001: https://www.anandtech.com/show/706 I got some Iwill board because it came out first and some feature was totally broken that gimped the performance of my GeForce 3, could not fix it with many tech support calls and ended up buying the KT7A-RAID to replace it. Not a great experience for a 13 year old with their first real PC.
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Oct 27, 2022 16:59
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Cygni posted:Obviously Intel was going through their own uh... troubles in that time period too, with Willamette P4s and rambus and chipset bugs etc. Wild times. This reminded me of how everyone considered Prescott's to be so bad temperature wise... at a whopping 50-deg C at load!
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Oct 27, 2022 19:00
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SourKraut posted:This reminded me of how everyone considered Prescott's to be so bad temperature wise... at a whopping 50-deg C at load!  so it's a bit lower result than what some benchmarks suggest: https://www.cpuagent.com/cpu/intel-core-i5-3470/benchmarks/cinebench-r20-multi-core/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti?res=1&quality=ultra
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SourKraut posted:This reminded me of how everyone considered Prescott's to be so bad temperature wise... at a whopping 50-deg C at load! the initial ATX spec was made in a time where CPUs drawing >30W is a rarity my pentium mmx 233 had a smaller heatsink than what they put on X570s now
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Palladium posted:the initial ATX spec was made in a time where CPUs drawing >30W is a rarity And a case in 2002 either had no exhaust fan or like a single 60mm one (under the ATX spec, the power supply's fan is the case exhaust)
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FuturePastNow posted:And a case in 2002 either had no exhaust fan or like a single 60mm one (under the ATX spec, the power supply's fan is the case exhaust) nobody really cared for 300W+ PSUs until the 9700 pro too
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Palladium posted:nobody really cared for 300W+ PSUs until the 9700 pro too Yeah, the Voodoo 6000 needing an external power brick sounds silly when you realize it was a 60W card, but a typical PSU at the time was 200W or less
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Oct 30, 2022 15:34
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Yeah, the very first PC my family bought was a Compaq Pentium 90 and sported a whopping 150W power supply. Considering the demands of that 1995 configuration it was pretty generously over spec.
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Oct 30, 2022 17:26
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AMD requiring a 300w PSU for the 1ghz Slot A Athlon caused some mini outrage. People accused them of over juicing the CPU just to be the first to 1ghz. It used 60w.
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Cygni posted:AMD requiring a 300w PSU for the 1ghz Slot A Athlon caused some mini outrage. People accused them of over juicing the CPU just to be the first to 1ghz. It used 60w. Remember the “heavy” original zalmon flowers? https://www.gamingnexus.com/Article/234/Zalman-CNPS6000-Cu-Cooler 270 grams. One 92 mm fan. Dimensions: 115x64x58mm. This was a big and heavy cooler for the best CPUs at the time and could cool the most power hungry CPUs quietly. A noctua NH-D15 is 1320g, has two 120mm fans and has with fan dimesnsions of 161x150x165mm.
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Oct 30, 2022 20:40
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that reminded me thermalright did an all-copper version of the TRUE and it looked sick call yourself a premium brand noctua? where's the full copper D15?
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repiv posted:that reminded me thermalright did an all-copper version of the TRUE and it looked sick We're never getting full copper coolers ever again. I had a full copper Zalmann ages ago that was sick. Copper prices have gone insane, we're going to see aluminum wiring make a comeback in houses.
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Twerk from Home posted:We're never getting full copper coolers ever again. I had a full copper Zalmann ages ago that was sick. just remember to go up a gauge or two with aluminum wire or have your house caught on fire like a 4090.
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Oct 30, 2022 21:58
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Twerk from Home posted:We're never getting full copper coolers ever again. I had a full copper Zalmann ages ago that was sick. Yeah, especially for big modern coolers. A kg of copper has like a $10 spot price.
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repiv posted:that reminded me thermalright did an all-copper version of the TRUE and it looked sick TBH this hot af. Sick man.
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hobbesmaster posted:Yeah, especially for big modern coolers. A kg of copper has like a $10 spot price. you know you can find it laying around for free at any construction site, right???
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Prices dropping fast all over CPU world. 13600K now $299 at both Best Buy and Microcenter. My local Microcenter in LA is sold out though. 5700G and 5600X have had a $40 cut, down to $190 and $150 respectively. Looks like all the lower end AMD prior gen AMD parts, like 4500, 5500, 4600G, 5600G have had $20-30 cut too. The biggest cuts seem to be the 5800X3D, with up to a $100 drop in some locations to clear stock. The dude at microcenter told me they did not expect any more once the few they had left were gone. Guess they heard all of the "if you have AM4, just get an X3D" talk and have a uh... plan... to fix that, lol.
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Cygni posted:5700G and 5600X have had a $40 cut, down to $190 and $150 respectively. Looks like all the lower end AMD prior gen AMD parts, like 4500, 5500, 4600G, 5600G have had $20-30 cut too. The biggest cuts seem to be the 5800X3D, with up to a $100 drop in some locations to clear stock. The dude at microcenter told me they did not expect any more once the few they had left were gone. Guess they heard all of the "if you have AM4, just get an X3D" talk and have a uh... plan... to fix that, lol. that’s gotta be vs MSRP, just checked 6 microcenter locations within a 6 hour drive and all the micro centers around me are still at $370. 
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Paul MaudDib posted:that’s gotta be vs MSRP, just checked 6 microcenter locations within a 6 hour drive and all the micro centers around me are still at $370. Was $329 at the Microcenter by me, but shows as $370 online. Possible it was a one day thing? Best Buy still shows the $329 price for me.
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I can't imagine anyone looking at a $150 5600X and think "yes AM5 is a good idea"
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Cygni posted:Prices dropping fast all over CPU world. 13600K now $299 at both Best Buy and Microcenter. My local Microcenter in LA is sold out though.  
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Cygni posted:Prices dropping fast all over CPU world. 13600K now $299 at both Best Buy and Microcenter. My local Microcenter in LA is sold out though. I was telling myself I would be happy with my 12700K, but if prices eventually come down heavily across the board, maybe a 13900K won't be such a bad idea... Edit: Paul MaudDib posted:you know you can find it laying around for free at any construction site, right??? Fun fact, contractors often delay in bringing any copper pipe out to sites because of this concern specifically. The problem is the copper wiring for electrical gear, with people breaking in to pull it from any construction site they possibly can once they see that it's gone in. Canned Sunshine fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Oct 31, 2022 |
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:This post needs to come with an asterisk, because it's not all over the world: Unfortunately the majority of the thread focuses only on the US side of the market so I've just ended up mentally blanking out any post that has the $ symbol in it.
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SourKraut posted:Edit: Cpu coolers made out of PEX, bing bang so simple
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:This post needs to come with an asterisk, because it's not all over the world: Yeah, i was only talking about the US market, hence the Best Buy and Microcenter and $. I truly have no idea what the prices are like in any other market, be it a local market in Europe, or South Africa, or Australia (to name some places with higher amounts of english speakers per capita). ijyt posted:Unfortunately the majority of the thread focuses only on the US side of the market so I've just ended up mentally blanking out any post that has the $ symbol in it. The vast majority of users on SA are from the US, after all.
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So Asus Prime z790-P, 13700K, Set all cores to evenly boost so, all are locked to 5.3ghz at all times for the P cores and auto voltage. I don't know if this is good or insane, but looking at HWinfo, im seeling Core VID as 1.43v currently and 1.448v max. This freaks me out. That seems like a lot of voltage?! [edit] Found a setting called SVID which had settings, Intel failsafe, Auto, best case scenereo, and something else. I used best case scenario and volts are back down to 1.338v. Nice ASUS.. redeyes fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Nov 2, 2022 |
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canyoneer posted:Cpu coolers made out of PEX, bing bang so simple I'd build a closed loop with PeX any day. I was a plumber so I have all the tools. Having said that, that poo poo is NOT flexible at all
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redeyes posted:So Asus Prime z790-P, 13700K, Set all cores to evenly boost so, all are locked to 5.3ghz at all times for the P cores and auto voltage. I don't know if this is good or insane, but looking at HWinfo, im seeling Core VID as 1.43v currently and 1.448v max. This freaks me out. That seems like a lot of voltage?! 1.43v is totally fine, Intel 7 can handle high voltages. The published Intel maximum is 1.72v. Both Raptor Lake and Zen4 will happily push 1.5v for their top end stock boost.
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BurritoJustice posted:1.43v is totally fine, Intel 7 can handle high voltages. The published Intel maximum is 1.72v. You have to be kidding. 1.72V?!!! Holy poo poo man. I guess 16 cores is no joke.
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redeyes posted:You have to be kidding. 1.72V?!!! Holy poo poo man. I guess 16 cores is no joke. Pssh, back in the day I ran my Celeron 300A at 2.5V to break the 450MHz barrier. IIRC I got it to boot at 500Mhz 
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