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EdEddnEddy posted:^The potential use for nVME powered Optane storage in a Consumer sense. If it ever actually comes to light as a consumer product. Theoretically if you get the performance good enough and it does fill in a new spot on the pyramid, you could go with smaller DRAM in a system and use Optane to provide even more memory. Maybe even drop other storage mediums completely. Theoretically. WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Jan 20, 2017 |
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The thing about cloud backups is that they are not magical and "cloud" companies go out of business and have "oops" incidents as well. Google is not well known for supporting their services for a long time so your free unlimited backups might change into "come get your poo poo we are shutting down the service in 3 months" at any time.
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NihilismNow posted:The thing about cloud backups is that they are not magical and "cloud" companies go out of business and have "oops" incidents as well. Google is not well known for supporting their services for a long time so your free unlimited backups might change into "come get your poo poo we are shutting down the service in 3 months" at any time. “And we won’t let you pay us to mail out a drive with your data on it because we’re Google and gently caress you.”
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NihilismNow posted:The thing about cloud backups is that they are not magical and "cloud" companies go out of business and have "oops" incidents as well. Google is not well known for supporting their services for a long time so your free unlimited backups might change into "come get your poo poo we are shutting down the service in 3 months" at any time. pls kickstart the digital bronze etching project
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:there's also the part where tape drive data vaporizes from weak electromagnetism, hard drives just break by themselves, optical media adhesive dissolves http://www.pcworld.com/article/2933478/storage/m-disc-optical-media-reviewed-your-data-good-for-a-thousand-years.html
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Is it performing as fast as a current SSD yet? Its looking like 1st gen Optane consumer oriented products will be faster than current flash ones but not nearly as fast as the original marketing and announcements were suggesting and will be very expensive. Might be worth it just to stick with current cheaper flash SSD's until Intel gets either better performing and/or cheaper parts out. They were originally already supposed to be out by now but I guess they're all going to data centers or something.
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I have a Z270 mobo - is creating an IRST raid5 array in UEFI treated the same way as creating it in windows using the IRST windows manager? Or will the Windows-created one be some lovely software option compared to the UEFI-made option?
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:there's also the part where tape drive data vaporizes from weak electromagnetism, hard drives just break by themselves, optical media adhesive dissolves Or maybe we can look to Uri Geller for his advanced tele-magnetic powers? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uri_Geller#2013_BBC_documentary quote:The documentary claimed Geller became a "psychic spy" for the CIA, was recruited by Mossad, and worked as an "official secret agent" in Mexico, being a frequent guest of President José López Portillo. In the film, Geller claims to have erased floppy discs carried by KGB agents by repeatedly chanting the word "erase".
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zegermans posted:I have a Z270 mobo - is creating an IRST raid5 array in UEFI treated the same way as creating it in windows using the IRST windows manager? Or will the Windows-created one be some lovely software option compared to the UEFI-made option? I believe that they are the same. Software RAID in Windows would be Storage Spaces, which I would not call "lovely" personally because I've been using the parity mode for a few months and have had zero issues with about the same performance as an ICH-controlled RAID 5.
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Eletriarnation posted:I believe that they are the same. Software RAID in Windows would be Storage Spaces, which I would not call "lovely" personally because I've been using the parity mode for a few months and have had zero issues with about the same performance as an ICH-controlled RAID 5. The part that is iffy on Storage Spaces is when/if something goes wrong. In the past its been drat near impossible to deal with. I assume the parity mode is still using block storage on all drives so if you lose 2 drives you get no data. I get this is the same as normal RAID 5 but in this day and age, how in gently caress are people still using RAID 5 for anything?! There are so many other better options. Maybe the Anniversary update made SS better. I dunno.
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I understand what you mean in a general sense, but I'm only running a 3x3TB array and am not very concerned about performance since it's just for media storage. The closest alternative that I can see would be to run a 2x6TB RAID 1, which would have been substantially more expensive. Going to a 4-drive RAID 10 or 6 would also be more expensive and would be inconvenient given the number of drive bays I have available. Lastly, none of the contents are irreplaceable - it would just be very inconvenient to lose the whole array, not catastrophic. Given all that, what would be the better option?
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redeyes posted:The part that is iffy on Storage Spaces is when/if something goes wrong. In the past its been drat near impossible to deal with. I assume the parity mode is still using block storage on all drives so if you lose 2 drives you get no data. I get this is the same as normal RAID 5 but in this day and age, how in gently caress are people still using RAID 5 for anything?! There are so many other better options. Too bad ReFS didn't take chances with being a "new"* filesystem, bump up the default block size and just do full stripe writes a la ZFS. (*: It started as NTFS with a lot of code yanked out of it.) Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jan 22, 2017 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I wish they charged less for their 'desk' cases. I could give a gently caress less about the ones with motors that raise and lower the surface on cue, but the ones that can house two different systems side by side would be nice. I would love to do my next build as a desk case but yeah there don't seem to be any under a thousand freaking dollars
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https://gfycat.com/GraciousActiveCoral
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Good brand.
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Always use full-fat thermal compound for a more satisfying mouth-feel
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prevent heat from getting to the cpu in the first place, smart thinking
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Just wait until the Miracle Whip fanbois start pouring into this thread and claiming that Helmann's never innovates.
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People think that Best is the same stuff, but it’s actually good for another 2% overclock. 
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Maybe I am missing the joke, but that seems like a nice animation for....What exactly? Is it just completely out of order and whoever made it was either misinformed or just as a joke? Or are the gluing their CPU into the socket so it may never leave?
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EdEddnEddy posted:Maybe I am missing the joke, but that seems like a nice animation for....What exactly? Is it just completely out of order and whoever made it was either misinformed or just as a joke? Or are the gluing their CPU into the socket so it may never leave? It’s a joke. Hellmann’s is a brand of mayonnaise.
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Have there been any 7700K benchmarks pitted against overclocked 5775Cs yet? I want to know how badly my baby has aged.
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Have there been any 7700K benchmarks pitted against overclocked 5775Cs yet? I want to know how badly my baby has aged. I'm curious too. I'm sure with the overclocking, we are missing out. I haven't even bothered with mine.
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Does anyone have Speed Shift working on Windows 10? I thought a patch enabling this was due in November 2015. Just checking my 6600K in HWinfo, it's listed as a processor feature (SST) but not enabled.
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sincx posted:So still no reason to upgrade from a 2600k. Man I think my motherboard is going to die of old age before my processor becomes obsolete in terms of performance. Reason i upgraded from my 2600k is for the new Z270 boards. The ability to use m.2 NVME drives is pretty neat.
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So with this whole "Kaby Lake will only work with Windows 10" being kicked around, does this also include Windows 8.1 being run in a VM? I have some old legacy software that I need to run once a quarter that does not run under Windows 10 (because, get this, it's expecting a DLL version 3.0 or higher and with Windows 10, the DLL is v10.0 and we all know how lazy programmers are, so they only check for the first digit of the version number and claim it's too low   )I am currently on my trusty old 2500k so the VM runs fine, but I feel this is the year I'm making the leap.
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mcbexx posted:So with this whole "Kaby Lake will only work with Windows 10" being kicked around, does this also include Windows 8.1 being run in a VM? The hypervisor abstracts the actual CPU from the guest so it won't be a problem.
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mcbexx posted:So with this whole "Kaby Lake will only work with Windows 10" being kicked around, does this also include Windows 8.1 being run in a VM? What's actually happening is that older Windows versions won't support every feature that shows up in Kaby Lake. It's like how you can run Windows 95 on a modern PC, but it won't understand 16 GB of RAM or 8 terabyte hard drives, and won't be able to make use of all the new instruction set extensions. So you'll be fine running an older Windows and programs that need that.
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mcbexx posted:So with this whole "Kaby Lake will only work with Windows 10" being kicked around, does this also include Windows 8.1 being run in a VM? I'm not aware of much testing but I did see this video where they tested by installing Windows 8.1 on a Kaby Lake system and running some benchmarking and stress tests, they ran into some weird problems but nothing that actually stopped things from working in th end. But like the dude in the video says you are very much in YMMV territory when it comes to running anything but Win10 on a Kaby Lake system.
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Does anyone have Speed Shift working on Windows 10? I have it working with a 7600k and a ASRock Z270m Pro4 motherboard. The motherboard doesn't have Speedshift enabled by default, so I had to go into the UEFI and enable it manually. I discovered it was disabled when I was first overclocking the chip, and had a brief moment where I thought I broke something, since it didn't even work after I reset the UEFI to defaults. Turns out it's off by default  .
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The idea of Intel releasing a CPU that only works properly with Windows 10 is frankly absurd when you realize that the default non-UEFI boot state of a PC manufactured in 2017 with brand new top end kit is a boot sector loaded to the same location and with the state that it would be loaded to on an IBM Personal Computer Model 5150. Backwards compatibility *does not just disappear*.
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Unless you are Apple... But also you do have the usual fact that you usually run the newest OS on the Newest hardware. If you are buying brand new hardware to run Windows 7 on it, you really are just being stubborn and leaving performance benefits on the table, but you are completely able to do it if you so choose.
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EdEddnEddy posted:Unless you are Apple... Yeah, tell that to businesses.
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Palladium posted:Yeah, tell that to businesses. I do. They don't listen then bitch when it doesn't work right. 
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fishmech posted:What's actually happening is that older Windows versions won't support every feature that shows up in Kaby Lake. It's like how you can run Windows 95 on a modern PC, but it won't understand 16 GB of RAM or 8 terabyte hard drives, and won't be able to make use of all the new instruction set extensions. Much like Kaby Lake, I'd imagine the trick is going to be finding a way to install it. Windows 7 doesn't have an official Microsoft XHCI driver for Kaby Lake (or at least not one that runs at a low level?) so you need to boot up from USB 2.0. Kaby doesn't have native USB 2.0 anymore, ergo no Win7 support. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/02/windows_intel_kaby_lake_amd_zen/ There may be weird tricks you can use, like flashing a SATA drive as a boot disk, but who knows if there's a XHCI driver for Kaby at all, i.e. you may not have USB under Win7 even when you're installed. Win7 is definitely on the outs as far as Intel is concerned. quote:So you'll be fine running an older Windows and programs that need that. Would Windows 95 even understand a SATA controller/drive? Or is there some IDE/ATAPI emulation mode that you can enable? It's never occurred to me even to try it... ... although of course there are those motherboards with all kinds of poo poo ancient ports and poo poo on them for the commercial/industrial users who just refuse to upgrade. Why yes, you can buy a Core-based motherboard with parallel ports and PCI and ISA slots. And I know for sure you can actually buy a mSATA-to-IDE adapter, I have one on order for a Pentium III based thinkpad I'm resurrecting as a project PC... Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Feb 4, 2017 |
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