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Coffee Lake may be Z270/1151 compatible after all...   
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Jun 25, 2017 16:34
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This seems bad? https://twitter.com/newsycbot/status/878988555456045057
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Jun 25, 2017 16:56
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ufarn posted:This seems bad?  Jesus Intel, it's a mature platform. How do they gently caress these things up?
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Jun 25, 2017 17:32
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To be fair, there is already a microcode update that fixes it. Definitely a good reason to keep abreast of UEFI updates for your board though.
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Jun 25, 2017 17:59
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eames posted:Coffee Lake may be Z270/1151 compatible after all... Nobody thinks Coffee Lake isn't going to be on the LGA1151 socket. They just think it'll need a new, potentially incompatible chipset, hence the bump to the "LGA1151 v2" designation.
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Jun 25, 2017 21:34
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I find it hilarious that they clock the 7800X lower than the 7820X, despite expecting more headroom due to more unused silicone for heatspreading, probably to justify the Coffee Lake, which sits in between based on clocks based on the stats above. Like what the gently caress.
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Jun 25, 2017 21:52
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Some more Coffee Lake geekbench scores leaked by MSI, with an underclocked 3.2ghz example being essentially identical to a Ryzen 5 1600X. Earlier leaks were of a 3.5ghz base 4.2ghz boost example that may be a higher SKU or actual launch speeds. If you can stomach wccftech: http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-6-core-i7-cpu-performance-benchmark-leak/
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Jun 26, 2017 16:58
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BurritoJustice posted:To be fair, there is already a microcode update that fixes it. Definitely a good reason to keep abreast of UEFI updates for your board though. it seems to just hit the kill bit for that particular optimization, but I think that's pretty typical for microcode fixes
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Jun 26, 2017 19:46
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Cygni posted:If you can stomach wccftech: http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-6-core-i7-cpu-performance-benchmark-leak/
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Jun 26, 2017 20:16
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A 4619 ST score assuming it turbos +400MHz to 3.6GHz is basically 5% more IPC over SKL/KBL, but you know Intel is just going to gently caress up something in the end product nonetheless.
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Jun 27, 2017 04:56
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Older server question: Anyone know how the CPU compatibility for LGA1366 works? Is it L-series, E-series, X-series separate or can I upgrade a E5620 to an X5640? Older hexacores are so cheap right now. Going in one of these old servers. At $110 for the CPU and $90 per 16GB of ECC Ram (*3, triple channel) it seems like a cheap way to dump some more horses in the box. It was natex.us and they're EATX so they won't work in a proprietary supermicro rack. Too bad. Might be worth buying just for the 16 8GB DDR3-1333 Registered ECC sticks though. Harik fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Jun 27, 2017 |
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Jun 27, 2017 05:53
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Z370 in Q4/2017, Z390 in 2018. https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel/intel-z370-chipset
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Jun 28, 2017 08:31
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Looks like my 2500K/Z68 gets to soldier on into 2018. Here's hoping they don't instantly EOL the Z370. "Q4" is troubling - though it's at least nice that they're giving more information on when to expect Z370 and Coffee Lake.
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Jun 28, 2017 08:36
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If you told me back then I'd be using my 2600k this long, I'd call you a liar...
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Jun 28, 2017 13:02
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PerrineClostermann posted:If you told me back then I'd be using my 2600k this long, I'd call you a liar... When my coworker asked me whether building a brand new desktop for basic Internet use is a good idea now, I just LOLed and promptly directed him to a $150 Lenovo i5 Ivy Bridge + 4GB DDR3 + 500GB HDD refurb.
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Jun 28, 2017 13:10
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Palladium posted:When my coworker asked me whether building a brand new desktop for basic Internet use is a good idea now, I just LOLed and promptly directed him to a $150 Lenovo i5 Ivy Bridge + 4GB DDR3 + 500GB HDD refurb. my mom did this, and she loves the little thing
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Jun 28, 2017 13:40
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Palladium posted:When my coworker asked me whether building a brand new desktop for basic Internet use is a good idea now, I just LOLed and promptly directed him to a $150 Lenovo i5 Ivy Bridge + 4GB DDR3 + 500GB HDD refurb. You can get refurbed Ivy-based i5-3470s systems with 4gb RAM and an 80gb SSD off of Ebay for $120. I even found some i5-3570s systems specced and priced the same way a month ago. Amazing bang for the buck.
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Jun 28, 2017 14:24
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bobfather posted:You can get refurbed Ivy-based i5-3470s systems with 4gb RAM and an 80gb SSD off of Ebay for $120. I even found some i5-3570s systems specced and priced the same way a month ago. Amazing bang for the buck. Well, that's about the best deal I'm able to come across in Singapore. Would love a full-size version to put in standard PCIE cards instead of SFF, but the refurb still beats the living poo poo out of DIY where $150 here barely gets a G4650 and a cheapest H110 mobo into the door.
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Jun 28, 2017 14:52
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Palladium posted:Well, that's about the best deal I'm able to come across in Singapore. Would love a full-size version to put in standard PCIE cards instead of SFF, but the refurb still beats the living poo poo out of DIY where $150 here barely gets a G4650 and a cheapest H110 mobo into the door. For full size look for Dell Optiplex and Lenovo m systems of that vintage. They're priced a bit higher, but still around like $150 shipped.
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Jun 28, 2017 15:59
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PerrineClostermann posted:If you told me back then I'd be using my 2600k this long, I'd call you a liar... Same, plus if you told me we were all excitedly waiting for an AMD CPU release and dreading how Intel was going to gently caress up their response...
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Jun 28, 2017 16:03
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eames posted:Z370 in Q4/2017, Z390 in 2018. So 2 new performance chipsets that don't offer anything new, and both of them are dead when Cannonlake comes out? Oh intel.
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Jun 28, 2017 16:58
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PerrineClostermann posted:If you told me back then I'd be using my 2600k this long, I'd call you a liar... 2500K still going strong. Used to upgrade every 3 years or so, but now, eh. Actually just want to upgrade at this point to get M2 slots.
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Jun 28, 2017 17:21
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Cygni posted:So 2 new performance chipsets that don't offer anything new, and both of them are dead when Cannonlake comes out? Oh intel. Icelake will use a 400-series chipset, so not even Cannonlake is potentially safe.
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Jun 28, 2017 17:23
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CitizenKain posted:Actually just want to upgrade at this point to get M2 slots. That's pretty much what I did. The sandy chip itself was totally fine for me, it was just boredom and wanting a new chipset.
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Jun 28, 2017 17:38
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CitizenKain posted:2500K still going strong. Used to upgrade every 3 years or so, but now, eh. If you wanna use an NVMe/PCIe M2 (and you should!), there are dirt cheap adapters. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124167
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Jun 28, 2017 17:59
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Cygni posted:If you wanna use an NVMe/PCIe M2 (and you should!), there are dirt cheap adapters. It just isn't as good as booting from them, and PCIe 2.0 speeds limit them to under 1000MB/sec.
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Jun 28, 2017 18:01
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BIG HEADLINE posted:It just isn't as good as booting from them, and PCIe 2.0 speeds limit them to under 1000MB/sec. Thats true, I didn't think of the boot issues. You could probably get it to work but I imagine it would be a hassle.
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Jun 28, 2017 18:09
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eames posted:Looking at the various benchmarks I believe that the reason why Intel is clocking SL-X so high is the smaller L3 cache. It seems to impact gaming performance negatively, so much so that Broadwell-E could be faster than SL-X in gaming and at comparable frequencies. Shameless selfquote but golem.de reports that SL-X has 4.6% lower IPC than BW-E. (i7-6950X vs i9-7900X both at 3.3 GHz)  https://www.golem.de/news/core-i9-7900x-im-test-intels-10-kern-brechstange-1706-128520-4.html
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Jun 28, 2017 19:40
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CitizenKain posted:2500K still going strong. Used to upgrade every 3 years or so, but now, eh. Being able to boot from NVMe SSDs is a really cool + good leap in the features department. As noted, there are adapters that let you plug em in to PCIe slots, but only post Z87 chipsets support booting from them. And if you're not booting from one, then you're sorta losing out on a lot of the reason for having it to begin with.
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Jun 28, 2017 19:50
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eames posted:Shameless selfquote but golem.de reports that SL-X has 4.6% lower IPC than BW-E. (i7-6950X vs i9-7900X both at 3.3 GHz) 6-core small Kaby Lake "Coffee Lake" confirmed as best gaming chip for the next 2-99 years.
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Jun 28, 2017 19:51
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X299 pulls so much juice that VRM cooling is now a OC bottleneck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7BqAjC4ZCc
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Jun 28, 2017 23:39
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AMD: "Boy my VRM's ran really hot on my 290x GPU's" INTEL: "Thats nothing, Hold my beer" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7BqAjC4ZCc
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Jun 28, 2017 23:42
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So much for cheap X299 boards  I guess they do make mobo-chipset waterblocks but normally that's just like a turbonerd showoff thing. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 23:49
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Most of the "heatsinks" on VRMs are just held down with pushpins. No TIMs, nothin. Some of em don't even really touch anything to cool, which is always funny. Really just for looks to sell to ultra nerds. Sounds like that stuff aint gonna work with a CPU that can draw 300 fuckin watts. What a mess intel put themselves in, just to try to out-due a niche CPU that not many people were ever gonna buy in the first place.
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Jun 29, 2017 00:01
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Scarecow posted:AMD: "Boy my VRM's ran really hot on my 290x GPU's" "I dunno, maybe I should call them heat insulators." LMAO edit: wtf his goddamned CABLE measured 65 degrees celsius LOLOLOL
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Jun 29, 2017 00:07
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eames posted:X299 pulls so much juice that VRM cooling is now a OC bottleneck "That's probably 80-90 degrees cable which is probably pretty close to it catching on fire" 
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Jun 29, 2017 00:11
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DrDork posted:"That's probably 80-90 degrees cable which is probably pretty close to it catching on fire" "I'm not really sure what to say" is a half-sentence. The other half is "...without jeopardizing my ability to get free testing gear and swag from Intel and mainboard makers."
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Jun 29, 2017 00:32
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Well now at least there's a good reason for some sexy monoblocks.
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Jun 29, 2017 00:38
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Yeah, except the price of admission for just the base config with a 7800X, base model motherboard, and 4x8 DDR4-3000 kit is just around/shy of a grand, and $1200-1300 with the 7820X. Intel has gone insane.
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What a lovely, worthless release.
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