Krailor posted:

Intel's primary customer base (datacenters buying Xeons by the thousands) have indicated that they're much more interested in performance-per-watt rather than just raw performance. So that's where Intel has been focusing their research over the past several years and they've made huge gains in that department.

Kazinsal posted:

NATEX usually has a couple in stock. They're used, tested, and in working condition with a 60 day warranty. They're basically a wholesale previous-previous-generation electronics recycling/reseller.

mmkay posted:

Something I've been wondering for a while - how many Intel employees are on SA?

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

Aquila posted:

Uh Oh, and Dell just "upgraded" our most recent order to v4 xeons for "free".

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

seems like they pushed a testing bios to production because there can't possibly be any other reason why Haswell isn't recognized

Twerk from Home posted:

4+ year old servers are not worth the electricity they take to run, so there's a lot of refurbishers selling machines even with warranties and support for very cheap.

My favorite vendor for that kind of thing is http://www.savemyserver.com/ , you can get Dell PowerEdges with 24 threads and 144GB of RAM and the management tools for ~$800 ready to go with a 2 year warranty. If you're willing to go without support or just ebay the parts yourself it can get even cheaper.

Edit: This vendor has free shipping too

PerrineClostermann posted:

Do you think it'd be fine for me to reuse my Corsair H50 as the cooler? Or should I get something new? I've had it since this computer was built in 2011.

Potato Salad posted:

Rare metals often sourced from locations with endless war, monstrously toxic chemicals with expensive storage and disposal, delicate multi-million-dollar fabrication gas chambers or etchers or whatever else in rows upon rows upon rows...

If you ever get a chance to tour a fabrication facility's floor, take it.

PBCrunch posted:

Can I expect something like this to work?

wipeout posted:

This is how I felt about it; so I just bought a 6600k. Maybe by the time gains (hopefully) start to show, it'll be kaby lake time.

Point made about streaming etc.

PBCrunch posted:

The "E5-2650v3" I got from ebay seems to work just fine in my Gigabyte X99-UD3P motherboard. The clock speed is down 100 MHz compared to a real 2650v3, and the max turbo frequency is down 200 MHz, but it is still pretty amazing when allowed to perform multi-threaded work. I saw something like 1200% in top when transcoding videos in Handbrake. Even with only two channels of memory, the chip transcodes in less than half the time compared with ye olde X3450 (i5-750 with Hyperthreading).

The platform has all kinds of neat stuff like lots of native USB 3.0 ports, ten SATA ports, four full-length PCIe slots, and an M.2 slot.

Aquila posted:

Two mysterious kernel panics with our new v4 Xeons (E5-2640 v4) in just a month so far, a little bit worrisome. First one was extra special:

code:

$ uptime
19:37:36 up 8 days,  6:43,  1 user,  load average: 4294362016.47, 4206909163.29, 3689414057.19

Yes I was able to SSH in. Unfortunately the forced reboot I sent didn't take and only stopped the hdfs-datanode and ssh, not the yarn-nodemanager, so I had to have it power cycled by remote hands. Lots of "BUG: soft lockup - CPU#34 stuck for 22s!" in the logs. Second one was just down hard with a scheduler kernel panic on the console.

I mention all this just because I recall someone in this thread complaining about problems with v4 xeons, but haven't seen too many complaints googling around the internet at large. Overall of course these new chips are awesome and are giving us 20 cores per hadoop node for the cost and power of 12 not too long ago. Maybe less power

BIG HEADLINE posted:

I'm not sure what to take from this:

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/high-end-skylake-processors-to-get-yet-another-socket.html

I can't figure if that first diagram means the Skylake-X processor will control "up to" 44 PCIe 3.0 lanes on its own total, or if the PCH 'southbridge' it seems to be connected to will control an additional 24 PCIe lanes for things like NVMe drives. If so, I think I've found my upgrade point. Hopefully they make an eight-core Sky-X.

japtor posted:

Skylake-X sounds like the usual Xeon EP derived part, so it could be on the CPU...then again there was that big rear end LGA3647 socket shown a while back. It shows Broadwell-E there as "40/28 lanes", how are those laid out, or does it just vary by model/core count?

Sir Unimaginative posted:

I'm going to end up riding my 2500K into the ground, aren't I.

Eletriarnation posted:

My totally based on nothing guess of what all that means (assuming it's not just made up) is that the -X naming does not designate Extreme Edition, it's just their new term for the HEDT package replacing 2011-3. Kaby Lake-X is going to be a 4-core part because they're not actually making a full server line for Kaby Lake.

Eletriarnation posted:

Yeah, it's a total guess and I have no inside information to that part of the industry so anyone who does could well be shaking their head.

Potato Salad posted:

Particularly with Pascal out, this is solid advice.

Combat Pretzel posted:

I thought the -E series was now -X? Your wish will be granted.

Paul MaudDib posted:

He's right, they renamed Skylake-E to Skylake-X.

I LIKE TO SMOKE WEE posted:

4.5GHz boost clock is impressive, but aren't all Kaby Lake processors going to be limited to 24 PCI-E lanes, or is that just on the lower power packages? (or outdated reporting)

Am I the only one sitting over here with a 2600k (~4.6Ghz, H80 cooler) wondering when I'm going to see something actually worth upgrading for? I built this machine in DEC 2011 for fucks sake.

Who / what can I blame for this?

I LIKE TO SMOKE WEE posted:

Isn't socket3647 intended for their server garbage?

Combat Pretzel posted:

Who cares about the socket? That changes way too often.

Otakufag posted:

1- For those of you who have upgraded from a 2500k to a new skylake: can you feel noticeable differences when playing recent games or doing other windows stuff?
2- Should I buy a i5 6600k or a i7 6700? Both end up costing the same as the i5 requires a more expensive mobo+cooling. This is mainly for gaming btw.
3- Maybe I should wait for something better around the corner? Is kaby lake worth waiting for or something else like zen? gently caress

HalloKitty posted:

I'm pretty sure that a consequence of them being more cautious with Xeons, so they do the desktop runs of the new chips first, to make sure all the bugs are ironed out, before going big.

HalloKitty posted:

I'm pretty sure that a consequence of them being more cautious with Xeons, so they do the desktop runs of the new chips first, to make sure all the bugs are ironed out, before going big.

priznat posted:

Got an Intel SDK in with LGA 3647 processors

They are humongous. I'm so used to 2011s I was totally confused when I took the heatsinks off at first..

Paul MaudDib posted:

What were you looking for for these?

LiquidRain posted:

On that subject would it be worth it to run an NVMe SSD on a Z97 board on the south bridge PCIe lanes? (PCIe 2.0)

I hate the layout of my Gryphon Z97 board, stupid mATX board with 4 slots supports SLI and has no m.2 slot, and as a result I can either choose to halve my 1070's bandwidth with the 2nd x16 slot or pretend it doesn't exist and use only 1 of the slots. I wanted a PCIe sound card.

Potato Salad posted:

But will any mobo manufacturer put three hdmi/dp outputs on their poo poo?

Paul MaudDib posted:

DVI-D pretty much needs to die out like VGA did at this point, since again, you can adapt either HDMI or DVI to DVI. I get hypothetically wanting to have HDMI on there since it's the standard connector for consumer equipment but a HDMI<->DVI adapter is like two bucks.

blowfish posted:

any old and completely outmoded interconnectVGA and DVI should be actively eradicated, unless you're Dell or Lenovo and making PCs that work in lovely corporations with 15 year old projectors or something.

canyoneer posted:

There are customers still buying ancient Pentium 3 era processors to put in stuff like a gerzillion dollar scanning electron microscope, ultraspecialized custom equipment or fleets of slot machines because it's still way cheaper to buy the obsolete junk at a premium than to upgrade.

It's funny to hear about what still gets made and sold.

SlayVus posted:

Your best bet would probably be to pick up some aftermarket coolers. I think Noctua makes server sinks that would fit that socket design. Those dinky OEM sinks are just really not enough.

Rexxed posted:

I recently put a couple of Hyper 212 EVO coolers on a dual socket 1366 board. The support on the back of the motherboard was permanently affixed (at least the LGA retention bracket was also secured to it so it'd have been really hard to remove and replace both) so I used some M3 10mm standoffs instead of the hyper 212's stock standoffs to get them mounted. The 212 is big but I moved the motherboard from a 1U rackmount case to an ATX case so it worked for my situation.

priznat posted:

We have one of the Skylake/Purley Intel SDKs at work and got sent the upgrade to Beta CPUs and when I swapped them out I was like what the fuuuuuck because the chips were so huge under the heatsinks. Also the heatsinks snap right on to the CPU and you have to carefully pry them off which is ridiculous.

I thought I had snapped a pic of them but apparently not. They're almost the size of a playing card. Serve the home has a good writeup with pics: https://www.servethehome.com/big-sockets-look-intel-lga-3647/