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Durinia posted:The -E chips generally come out in the same timeframe as the Xeons with that core. Broadwell Xeons aren't quite here yet (supposedly this quarter). If you're waiting for Skylake-E, it's probably going to be 2017. I think it may not be as good of an indicator in the past, because I'm suspecting that the new E5's aren't going to be compatible with the HEDT X series chipsets and will only work with the workstation/server C series, just like the E3 v4's and v5's being incompatible with the Z and Q chipsets despite using the same sockets. So there's a chance that EX and EP CPU's won't be so functionally identical like before and the releases may not line up so neatly. Which is probably doing me a favor, because it'll break my habit of buying the Xeon version for $25 more in the hopes that it's a more reliable bin despite that deep in my heart I really know there's no difference.
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NihilismNow posted:Is there any chance that Xeon E5-v4 will be compatible with LGA 2011-v3 or will we be forced onto LGA-2011v4 motherboards? On the desktop broadwell and haswell shared a socket. I do have a C612 motherboard so a potential upgrade to broadwell-e would be nice (although i am fine with Haswell-E).
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If an i5 4690k isn't enough for you, go with the 6700k. The higher clockspeed and IPC performance improvements from Skylake will make it push more frames than the 5820k unless you overclock it heavily. And I don't think the 6600k would be enough of an upgrade to be worth your time. Personally, I think you may need to go SLI if possible to get the performance you want. I don't think your current CPU should bottleneck you that significantly. The GTX 980Ti is an amazing card, but trying to hit a constant 144Hz+ with all the settings cranked up may be a tall order for it.
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I was curious, so it looked it up. My quad core Haswell Xeon has actually appreciated in value. 
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I like to think it's a reference to Honda K series engines that were popular in riced-out Civics.
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Apr 22, 2018 08:33
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Otakufag posted:Only for gaming at 1080p 144 refresh and pair with a 1070, should I get a 8400, 2600x or a 8700-non k? I'm afraid the 8400 will bottleneck the next round of Nvidia cards if I decide to upgrade the gpu in a year, also afraid Zen 2 will arrive late / not live up to the hype for a later cpu upgrade, and finally afraid Intel will announce hyperthreading to the I5 lineup making the I7 unnecessary for gaming.
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Craptacular! posted:HT as an i7 thing is a heinous profit center for Intel that AMD is pointedly aiming sharp sticks at. They can continue to get away with it if they price i5 aggressively enough and i7 continues to have significant gaming performance gap with AMD's flagship, but at some point they're going to have to transition to "i7 has more cores".
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Just further proof that Intel’s been out of gas since Sandy Bridge, just like AMD with excavator. Time to call up Jim.
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Jot this little nugget down, wall street: It's obviously Itanium 3.
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Seems like the hold up for those 9900k's is likely a shortage of dodecahedron packaging.
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necrobobsledder posted:In contrast, an Intel Xeon E3-1230 (basically a 2600 that supports ECC) hardly goes for much and LGA 1150 C20x motherboards are pretty much a dime a dozen. Nobody could have predicted how strong the Sandy Bridge series was going to be besides maybe the folks at Intel and AMD. I'm sending my beloved E3-1230 to recycling after it's faithfully served for nearly a decade - it's literally the longest-going computer I ever had now. I just need to downsize is the only reason and a NUC makes more sense to me now than any form of larger PC (including even a mini ITX machine). I want to see what Intel's answer to it would be as well, but I'm not very hopeful at the moment. 
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:Also not giving an actual time frame for 7nm is a complete tease.
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Newegg was good before Amazon was so dominant. They’re running on inertia right now. They even get dunked on by Microcenter, a physical store in 2018. Think about that for a minute.
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I still love Newegg for that $200 6800 Ultra I got open box. It had a water block on it, so someone had to have ordered it by mistake and didn’t realize you could just slap a fan on it. Their close out deals suck now. The prices need to be pretty insane for me to take that kind of risk.
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Mr.Radar posted:I looked up old reviews of that card to see what the original retail price was ($400 apparently, though at least one watercooled model was $600) and this comment on Anadtech's review made me laugh: It also had a requirement listed on the box for a 680 watt PSU. Worked fine on my 500W Antec. But I wouldn’t trust a Sparkle or COOLMAX at that rating.
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Oh you sweet summer child. Note that Nvidia recommended a 480 watt PSU.
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craig588 posted:Sparkle used to be a good brand, are they no longer? Are only certain models good? I used to have 2 of them that lasted for about 10 years that I only got rid of because they were so old they were still biased to supplying most of their power on the 5V rail and not the 12V as in modern designs. I had a bundled 400W Diablotek that couldn't get a Celeron E1200 with onboard graphics to even get through the initial Windows installation on a bottom of the dumpster budget build back in the day. I think that CPU was a 60 watt chip, lol. That fucker did OC to 3GHz when it had proper power though. A $30 Wolfdale CPU that performed like the $200 model. Intel won't let that kind of poo poo fly these days! e: on the topic of old Intel crap, it amused me to no end that a $50 Netburst Pentium D 805 I got for my wife went toe to toe with my expensive 1.8GHz Opteron, I only had to OC it to over twice its clock rate at 4GHz to accomplish that. Rest in piss, Netburst! Laslow fucked around with this message at 09:06 on Dec 12, 2018 |
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I take it as their implementation of 10nm is turning out to be an abject failure, and if they wait for it to add other new features, they'll get cyberbullied enough by nerds for rehashing Skylake in 2020 that finance guys and corporate IT purchasers will take notice.
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A 4790 will be faster in newer stuff that requires more than 4 threads. At 4GHz, it'll probably be on par with old Sandy's performance at 4.4, since Devil's Canyon has about 10% more IPC. If you can find a Q, H, or C series for under fifty bucks, go for it. You don't need a Z series since it's got a locked multi, and you can use the same RAM. So fifty bucks would be all you'd pay and that's that. You can get some C series workstation boards for next to nothing if you can splice your own ATX and CPU HSF wire adapters, since they'd use weird proprietary Dell/Lenovo/HP plugs, because those companies are dicks like that.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-48DY8...61PI:rk:20:pf:0 Get one of these for thirty bucks. https://www.ebay.com/itm/12-Inch-24...0MB7:rk:10:pf:0 https://www.ebay.com/itm/5Pin-to-4P...b4f90:rk:1:pf:0 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Optip...kcPj:rk:30:pf:0 And then these adapters for 15 total. It has ATX holes for mounting in a case. And you may need to gently caress around with jury rigging the power button to look okay, but for $45, who cares? e: I just want to go ahead and admit I did exactly this when my Z97 board died a few months ago, and it works flawlessly, apart from the FRONT I/O PANEL MISSING message on bootup. gently caress paying those used market prices on Z and H series boards, I refused to pay more than fifty bucks for a dead platform and you shouldn't either. My CPU has a locked multi anyway, gently caress it. Laslow fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Dec 21, 2018 |
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Don Dongington posted:Guess they didn't sell those in Australia drat, prices down there are depressing.
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It’s not easy getting the most value out of the product slate you’ve got for your shareholders without blatantly screwing your customers. Their affordable consumer options still give people absurd amounts of computing power. Even hex core i5’s are pretty excellent for pretty much any task for mainstream users. Who is really getting screwed by the SMT premium? Maybe a couple IT purchasers who’s bonus metrics are looking a little dicey this quarter. If you’re a HEDT enthusiast and you’re complaining, then you really picked the wrong hobby. Or you know, there’s another company that’s selling competitive CPU’s without such a big premium on both SMT and core count. For the first time in a good long while, in fact.
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Q_res posted:Slot 2 was what Pentium II Xeon used.
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For plain old GigE, the Intel i2xx series is still being produced and pops up here and there on some motherboards. You could always slap an old x540-t2 in there for 10gigE and be set for the next decade if recent onboard stuff is really as bad as it sounds. They’re (relatively)cheap, and I’ve never had an issue with them, despite my concerns due to the suspiciously low prices that pop up on eBay. Although I just use mine to connect to my internet router, and use the second port to crossover to my wife’s PC directly since I don’t think my router even support 10 GigE. She sends over a ton of backup data to the big hard drive in my computer while also using ICS without any complaints for years now.
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Do nvme drives get close to saturating PCIE 3.0 16x? I guess multiple drives is where you want all the lanes you can get. I got a 1050 ti on 3.0 4x connection that doesn’t take any performance hit at all. I’m sure high end stuff would feel the squeeze though. Either way, PCI-E 4.0 is mostly important for storage, right?
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Thanks for going over that for me. I was just wondering why people were making a big deal about PCIE 4.0 on other boards. I will look in to a ridiculous RAID0 nvme setup when I upgrade to a Zen 2 Threadripper or whatever Intel’s got if they finally play ball on price in the workstation segment, if only for the novelty of BIG HUEG NUMBERS on CrystalDiskMark since it should be cheap enough now that SSD prices are hitting bedrock.
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One they have 20% better IPC than Haswell I’m jumping ship. Unless I can be 100% certain Intel’s new offerings are safe, but I think their chips might be hosed up fundamentally. They’re always cagey when asked if their newer chips will be fixed completely.
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:I believe it was the clam-shell gens. GX150 up to maybe the GX600 series. This was Pentium 3-4 days, long while back. I have a Dell C226 (Haswell) motherboard and it absolutely does not have a standard ATX connector, it’s 8 pins instead of 24. e: I’m not bothered by this one bit, the motherboard was a replacement and normally that chipset goes for over $100. Since Dell needs to be such a special snowflake, the board’s resale value is like only $40 and I just needed a $4 adapter to make it work. Laslow fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jun 27, 2019 |
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I have to say being an early adopter for an SSD allowed me to use my old Q9450 rig comfortably for way longer than I had any right to be. Sure, the difference going to a 1276v3 with a GTX 970 was definitely noticeable, but definitely wasn’t nearly as big as you would expect considering the age gap of the Q9450/GTX 580 3GB it replaced. Now they were a $300 CPU paired with a $600 GPU, so they were top of the line in their day, but still....
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Palladium posted:While I was stress testing my old 4790K system with a 850 Evo prior to selling it, I was reminded by just how fast it booted from hitting the power button to the Windows desktop: 14 secs. My 8700K needed the same 14 secs to see the POST screen, and another 13 secs to the desktop despite having a EX920 NVMe OS drive.
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Nutsak posted:You might want to see if it's his graphics card bottlenecking his system first. I'm running a 4790k and a 1070 and in theory I need to replace the graphics card to get better FPS in the games I play.
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mobby_6kl posted:Will this now force AMD to partner with DC?
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Paul MaudDib posted:Microcenter has 9900Ks for $299.99 May be possible to get best buy to price match if you don't have one in your area, some people report success with a couple tries. I’m gonna hold out for DDR5 because overpaying for new memory platforms is a tradition of mine. I’m just not used to having a computer having such a long useful lifespan. Being able to get a CPU that powerful for the same price I got my Q9450 back in the day(probably cheaper with inflation) and going “nice, but pass...” is just absurd to me.
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HEDT is dead as we know it is dead. Intel needs to rework the X chipsets as they were pre-X58. Basically higher end than the Z, but without using a snowflake/server socket to keep the CPU prices competitive. Maybe use it as the beta test platform for bleeding edge stuff like DDR5/PCIE5, just like they did with X48 with DDR3/PCIE2/UEFI. If they time it right, they could beat AMD to having a DDR5 product to market. At least that’d give them something compelling, even if on paper. Basically I’m waiting on DDR5 before my next rebuild, and anything to help that get out the door earlier even by a few months, that’d be swell. 
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Ok Comboomer posted:WRT cloud apple seem pretty happy running other people’s tech in their own data centers and seem like they’d be extremely happy to get every developer to buy a MacBook Pro to connect to Azure or Amazon services. I suppose at this point they really don’t see the value in even thinking of pursuing that space, for all that some of their hardware could hypothetically excel in it.
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shrike82 posted:lol cloud is a major profit center for big tech companies extending to even hardware makers that cater to cloud providers
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WhyteRyce posted:Apple is pushing more and more into the services game. They aren't a race to the bottom company but their services aren't exactly race to the bottom either last I checked icloud pricing Then it might make economic sense for them to make a buttload of ARM Xserves(AServes?) for themselves to use.
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The funny thing about AVX512 is that RPCSX3 and Cemu get some mileage out of it and that stuff is kind of my jam. So despite largely being outside of the typical use-case, it’s still a feature that’s firmly in the “nice to have for a few bucks more” category for me. It’s kind of in the $30 or less range personally though. Like if the equivalent i9/Xeon were $30 more than a Ryzen R9/Threadripper without AVX512 or significantly less AVX512 performance, I just might reach for it because I’m an enormous idiot. Anand says that there’s no such thing as bad products, just bad prices which is what I judge by. So if Alder Lake is a technological embarrassment for being so late for what it ultimately is doesn’t matter to me one iota if it’s priced appropriately. But there’s plenty of time for AMD to match Intel in AVX512 between now and then.
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