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thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!
nvm

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thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!
NATIONALIZE INTEL! Malaysia will lead us into the new millennium of computing.

thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!
Is Thunderbolt on PC still crippled?

thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!

Gwaihir posted:

How so? Driver support?

I am way out of date on things but basically

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8529/idf-2014-where-is-thunderbolt-headed

quote:

Thunderbolt on PCs: A Crippled Experience

The reason for the far from optimal experience with Thunderbolt on PCs boils down to two different aspects, the hardware and the software. In terms of hardware, Intel has never allowed motherboard vendors to hang the Thunderbolt silicon / add-in card off the CPU's PCIe lanes. These have to hang off the platform controller hub (PCH). On the other hand, Apple was allowed to hook up the Thunderbolt silicon directly to the CPU. The reason behind this leads us to the software side of things.

Apple has full control over the operating system. Hanging Thunderbolt peripherals directly off the CPU's PCIe lanes requires extensive support from the operating system, particularly when it comes to hot plugging devices and/or waking up peripherals from sleep mode. Over the PCIe lanes off the PCH, Intel has more control via its chipset drivers. Ultimately, it looks like Microsoft dropped the ball and Intel decided to come up with a certification solution by only allowing Thunderbolt silicon to talk to the PCH for all PC boards.

While Microsoft continues to twiddle its thumbs, Intel has decided to come up with less restrictive hardware suggestions to bridge the Thunderbolt experience gap between Macs and PCs.

thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!
Why is everyone focusing on wafer cost and not fab plant cost + engineer salaries?

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thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!
Which lead to interesting shenanigans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sgaq6OYLX8

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