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PerrineClostermann posted:This makes me wonder just how much of a difference my two most recent computers are. C2D e6750 @ ....3.5ghz? I can't even remember. Compared to my 2600k @ 4.5ghz. I was actually just doing some cursory research on this and was amazed that 3 years hasn't really pushed the envelope TOO far for CPUs. I mean yeah sure Haswell is superior to Sandy Bridge, but you could still have a perfectly awesome computing experience on high-end Sandy Bridge hardware you bought back then. The only semi-daily use thing that really pushes my CPU to the limit and would cost me a few seconds is RAW photo processing work in Lightroom, but that's not my daily job or anything. HalloKitty posted:You've learnt all there is anyone can tell you, really. Read as much as you can about doing it. Delidding is so absurdly easy if you know someone with a vise. I took my brand new i5 to my garage, chucked it in the vise with some duct tape on the edges for cushioning, whacked the IHS off, and left my garage in about 45 seconds total. ShaneB fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Feb 20, 2014 |
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Ignoarints posted:I have a vice but the surface is just way too rough (I would think) to get a good wide grip on a small chip. It's a beast (pressed control arm bushings with that thing) but I'm trying to find a cheap vice with a flat surface. Glad to hear it's so easy, the videos ive seen seem to suggest the same thing. I keep imagining slipping and crushing all the pins with the wood everytime I see a video though There aren't pins on Haswell, the pins are in the socket now, so that's one less thing to worry about. I suppose you could shear off SOMETHING down there but it's pretty easy if you just set the wood block against it snugly.
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Feb 20, 2014 16:51
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Ignoarints posted:I can't believe I didn't notice something like that when I put it in. Good news though. drat, I might just do this today. I got mine off amazon.
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Feb 22, 2014 01:51
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Ignoarints posted:I'd hope for more 4.6 4.7. Seems reasonable based on what other people have gotten. Some have gotten 4.8+ but with a better cooler than I have. I have a delidded CLP'ed watercooled 4670K that won't stabilize past 4.5ghz. I haven't jacked the volts crazy but temps on non synthetics like x264 reach mid 60s and synthetics go high 70s so that's about where I'm stopping. It's really luck of the draw more than temp controlling.
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Ignoarints posted:What's your voltage at? I was stable for 30 minutes or so at 4.5 but the temperatures kept spiking above 80* and I stopped it. That's at 1.29 volts. From the guides I've read I'm probably going to see what I can get at 1.35 volts before calling it quits. Also I read people having some luck stabilizing by lowering the uncore (assuming it was overclocked along with the multiplier) and increasing vring voltage. My uncore is at 4.2 GHz as it is and from what I understand that's already a bit high. I have some wiggle room, but hopefully the processor can do it at all. The temp deltas between CLP/U and something normal like AS5 are something in the 3-5C range, but I chose to go with ease of use/reassembly/etc and just used AS5 between my IHS and H60 watercooler. I used CLP under the IHS. CLP/U require a really annoying process to remove, which isn't a HUGE deal unless you are someone who is removing/reinstalling coolers... but honestly if you needed to do it ONCE, EVER, it wouldn't be worth it IMO. Your heat isn't keeping you from 4.5+, it's almost certainly just your chip. Are you liquid cooling and seeing temps spike above 80? On what, P95 small or IBT? My voltages are 2.0V input, 1.29Vcore, and 1.25v cache. I have my uncore at 38x. Your uncore CAN restrict overclocking and dropping it a little to get more out of the core is worth it.
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Feb 25, 2014 00:48
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Ignoarints posted:Well maybe they improved the tim :Idunno: They don't need to improve the TIM or glue because the processors work perfectly well within spec only weird overclockers (like me) are complaining about it.
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The Lord Bude posted:I for one certainly won't be making the same early adopter mistake I made with DDR3 ram. There's nothing I regret more than blowing 2 grand on Ram. :O
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The Lord Bude posted:I don't understand why they don't save some money by ditching the integrated gpu from -k processors altogether. Only enthusiasts/gamers have any interest in -k processors anyhow, and there isn't a single one of us on the face of the earth who wouldn't have a real gpu. It's entirely redundant. Maybe harder/more expensive to have a separate production line?
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deimos posted:I still use quicksync on an offscreen. Speaking of quicksync, why can't I enable it in Open Broadcaster Software? I have an i5-4670K. Is there some way I enable the stock video chipset that I don't know about? I went through my BIOS last night and couldn't find anything.
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SamDabbers posted:LucidLogix Virtu support Don't make things up
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SamDabbers posted:Some ASUS motherboards (P8Z77-v, for one) have a BIOS option for multi-GPU mode and the caption says "enable this for LucidLogix Virtu." It's a lovely gimmick, but the multi-GPU mode option makes QuickSync work in OBS while your dedicated GPU runs your games. I wasn't for anything besides general experimenting. My PC seems like it can handle 720p 30FPS streaming with no big deal in the tests I've done, though.
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Tab8715 posted:Yea, I can't see a good reason to upgrade my i5-2500k. 99% of the time I'm GPU or limited by my storage. Basically if you are pushing your CPU to 100% for things like scientific data crunching, photo manipulation/importing/exporting (like you were a pro wedding photographer doing huge bulk stuff all day), video encoding, I can see the need, but I'm hoping to be able to use this i5-4series for a long-rear end time. Even the 2series stuff is just barely worse, I'd have to be super worried about saving every precious minute of my day to NEED to upgrade to a Haswell. It's pretty awesome.
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Mar 21, 2014 16:07
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So is there any word on whether or not the new CPUs will work on the previous generation of motherboard?
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BurritoJustice posted:New CPUs won't work in Z87, only old Haswells. Everything LGA1150 will work in Z97, up until and including Broadwell. Skylake is going to be LGA1151 or something I believe. Is it possible with a BIOS upgrade?
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For purposes of the system building OP: Haswell refresh DOES or DOES NOT require a 9-series chipset board?
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