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incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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The important thing here is its not lovely. Is it terrible compared to a discrete option? yes.

From the documentation its very much on par with current AMD on board offerings. However this is not targeted at you. Its for inexpensive PCs and businesses.

e:fb

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incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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~Coxy posted:

I'm a bit disappointed by the lack of PCI-E lanes and USB 3 support.
Do we have a rough date for the 1366 replacement?

Forget the USB

Embrace the light peak

However i'd agree the PCIE lane issue as a minor sticking point. The home user / business wont notice.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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I hope this chipset is finally the one to force motherboard makers to UEFI.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Alereon posted:

Remember that UEFI is required in order to boot from HDDs larger than 2TB, and since we currently have 3TB HDDs that are relegated to external storage applications, that's kind of important.

This is the primary example of why I'm looking for a uefi board.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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dud root posted:

Also there are still 1366 CPUs due Q2/Q3 next year- 990x from memory, so flipping the production switch between Nehalem & Sandy Bridge will take all of 2011 I expect

Is this confirmed? I held off on 1366 because it was built with a evolutionary dead endness in mind with the 6 core CPUs that were launched.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Tech report shows off Asus line of new P65 motherboards

That Sabertooth is ridiculous. However I do like that intel NIC are available on top tier boards and the same top tier are all USB 3.0 (as in every port).

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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WhyteRyce posted:

I moved my old Ninja cooler from a 775 board to a 1156 one. I took off the pins on the heatsink and used nylon screws and bolts to attach it to the board. If the holes line up, you can reused it.

I don't know how reliable a Wikipedia article linked to VR Zone is, but it appears its hole comparable with 1366.

A few motherboard makers figured out how to use hole compatible 775 HSF on 1156 motherboards with the same hardware. It does require extra engineering and some "high level OC capability" concessions, but its doable.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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WhyteRyce posted:

Won't the next line of Atom netbooks have better video decoding as well?

edit-I don't know about Flash though.

Intel is advising OEMs to use a broadcomm chip to help flash video decoding.

What IS interesting and most people will look over is AMD will be at every price point with OpenCL support, something that Intel has been ignoring for quite a while. (Perhaps they should of focused on that instead of x86 in the smart phone)

If AMD can give the "Mac OS experience" to apple at all price points in the x86 arena, then this can be a small step forward for AMD.

incoherent fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Nov 24, 2010

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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No, not really. Most games don't even use more then two physical cores. Engines even have issues: Source has wildly swinging levels of compatibility (L4D2 works great, TF2 still doesn't work properly). Starcraft 2 tops out at 2 cores. GTA4 would be the best example as its heavy in its multicore requirements.

I'd want the proc for its sweet, sweet L3 cache.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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movax posted:

Businesses will really love EFI-based BIOS, so they can fully leverage all of Intel's management technology. It's a really goddamned dumb idea to steal a PC from work when it can be literally bricked (not even a BIOS flash will save it).

Dells server UEFI implementation is amazing. One click update of ALL the drivers outside of windows, easy OS install staging area, manage iDRAC, RAID, network iSCSI boot.

Not going to lie that poo poo is slow as all hell, but impressive.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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spasticColon posted:

One thing I forgot to ask about the K edition SB chips is do they just unlock random processors for overclocking or do they cherry-pick the processors like they do with the extreme edition chips?

The earlier. If it was extreme-implied it would have an MSRP of $999.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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ilkhan posted:

ok, you're not going to find P67 mITX boards, but yes for s1155. There is no reason for a company to design a P67 board that requires a discrete GPU on a mobo that small.

IF there is a nich market that needs to be catered to jetway will most likely make a poo poo board that the big mfgs will sell in their own color scheme.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Are they really boxing the Extreme cooler with the K chips.

Goodbye V8

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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How are we regressing with reguards to PCIE slots

incoherent fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Jan 4, 2011

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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WhyteRyce posted:

X58 is a high-end, enthusiast product, not a mainstream one which is what you are comparing it do.

I agree somewhat with this that yeah, we dont need 4 16x lanes, but most P55 mid-high end mobo manufactures were able to eek out 8x/8x/4x/1x configs.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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nm

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Skilleddk posted:

Is there any way to check if LGA 775 custom coolers fit on LGA 1155 boards? I have a Cooler Master V8. I'm kind of attached to it, it's just so massive . Would be hard to part ways with it.

V8

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/pro...product_id=2952

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Combat Pretzel posted:

What I also don't like how the BIOS makes its settings changes. It shuts down the computer, starts it for a few seconds, shuts it down again and then does starts again and does the POST.

That's really nice for hard drives.

Turn off Virtualization in the bios.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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And you can utilize 4k sectors on drives
And you can use GUID Partition Table instead of master boot records (you want this, really)

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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High end ones that most people here were running 130-200~ dollars.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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movax posted:

Jesus, that thing is a worthy successor to the Ultra 120.

In other news, for those of you on the fence on waiting for Ivy Bridge, a magic gnome told me that the 7-Series will indeed have integrated USB 3.0. Ivy Bridge will run on 6-series boards (pending BIOS update), Sandy Bridge will happily run in 7-series boards as well.

Also PCIe 3.0 on CPU, hooray! Now where are the PCIe 3.0 cards...

That seems entirely nondickish of intel.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Alereon posted:

Interesting revelation: The new Sandy Bridge-based Apple iMacs use the Z68 chipset. Maybe this means SSD caching will be coming in a future OSX update?

Ars indicated there was a 1 month delay if you got a SSD+HD combo, so i'm pretty sure they're shipping from the factory already setup. Also from Ars implied they are intel SSDs for this setup.

e: That processor looks like it can be seriously removed and upgraded.

incoherent fucked around with this message at 05:57 on May 5, 2011

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Alereon posted:

Anandtech has posted a summary of the Intel 2011 Investor Meeting. They're pushing REALLY hard to get their 32nm Atom SoC (Medfield) into smartphones, but this is an uphill battle as nobody would make a phone based on their 45nm Atom SoC (Moorestown).

Nobody is going to touch a x86 platform without the operating system to go with it. It will be interesting to see how intel (going at it alone) is at porting honeycomb to x86. It should be noted the references to this port are larger tablets that could clock faster, not smartphones.

Short of giving away the hardware or sweetheart bundling intels going to be out of this race for a generation or two.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Those x79 boards and the memory slots

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4793/...msi-at-idf-2011

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Serious Hardware / Software Crap > Intel Roadmap Discussion: Ivy Bridge Roulette Spring 2012.

Are they still going to stick it to the K proc buyers and leave out Virtualization of the mix? .

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Shiiiit...Intel is ready to loving gouge you.

e: The value priced CPU cooler. Someone made that slide.

incoherent fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Nov 14, 2011

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Zhentar posted:

(Hint: an i5-2400 trounces an "Extreme" QX9770)

I would call that trading blows, not trouncing.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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It is looking like we'll see ivy bridge motherboards with thunderbolt ports very soon. I do hope intel doesn't arbitrarily lock out thunderbolt support to motherboards running IB CPUs and Panther Point. I'd really like a Panther Point motherboard and keep my 2600k.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Seriously. Free performance on the table. The (nice) boards will even do all the heavy lifting for you.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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HalloKitty posted:

I have the same board (P8Z68-V Pro). Maybe we're just spoilt.

I was basically just trying to highlight how easy it is to do a small overclock on Sandy Bridge. Christ, I even found it very easy on earlier Core 2 platforms as well.

I have the same board as you both and I love extolling the virtues. The software is awesome and not bloaty.

Also those thunderbolt ports are going to be insanely expensive.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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You're going to have to explicitly and physically abuse the processor in order to invalidate this protection plan. If there are no defects that are visible (i.e. BURN MARKS) you are quite literally in the clear.

gigabyte protection plan.

E: Think of it this way: If you've never done overclocking, or you've done due diligence on the capabilities of your processor but were afraid to push it to that limit this is the plan for you.

incoherent fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Jan 20, 2012

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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IB is unique as one mfg is shipping bioses with IB cpu support right now. However there is a caveat to IB support: It is not 100% guaranteed. If your motherboard mfg cheapen out on the bios chip, you are SOL.

Intel is not above any of this as well. They've shipped motherboards that wouldn't support the next revision of a processor (conroes->wolfdale).

I'd recommend getting the 2500k and keeping the board. Its a very respectable board.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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movax posted:

That auto-BIOS update over WAN is pretty sexy. I guess my company isn't alone anymore.

Would be nice to see some PCIe 3.0 SATA/SAS HBAs for cheap NAS platforms too. I had to get a X58 over SNB because it didn't have enough PCIe lanes.

They are purposely kneecapping because they want you on the more expensive hardware!

e: surprised that Intel is fitting another 2 3.0 sata ports in the spec by marvel.

incoherent fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Apr 9, 2012

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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HalloKitty posted:

Probably. What the hell is Intel playing at?

Kneecapping IVB so there is a big difference between IVB and IVB-E.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Alereon posted:

If it had been a 64GB Samsung PM830 then I would call that a pretty smart deal, but I guess it's kind of useful as a dedicated pagefile drive. Now that I think about it, bundling an SSD which is going to rapidly depreciate in value with a motherboard that might spend some time on a shelf is a pretty poor choice, I guess they're hoping to move these things quickly.

Now they should sell a model where you can bring your own mSATA card.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Well...that explains 6GB memory setups on laptops.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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I really, really want that 5200 in a macbook air.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Factory Factory posted:

They'll also probably win a Nobel prize for physics, what with figuring out room-temperature superconductors to cool a 47W chip in a form factor that normally struggles with a third of that.

I don't want the quad-core beast mode proc, a sensible i5 will do. Hell the current MBA is really slick and fast, i just want something for a light touch of gaming.

But...but MY MARKET SEGMENTATION

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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http://www.corsair.com/us/blog/hasw...power-supplies/

Corsair has released an official comparability list. Pretty much everything is comparable, or being tested.

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incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Someone, somewhere must of committed to an entire warehouse full of them to justify intel supporting ECC on the i3.

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