MachinTrucChose posted:

Dedicated H264 encoding chip
Niche improvement that seems pointless. Who does video encoding other than scene groups and video professionals? Those people already have dedicated hardware for this. Little Jenny can capture her vlog from her webcam just fine with her current hardware.

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Integrated GPU that doesn't suck
The only interesting thing so far. But even that will probably do more harm than good. The vast, vast majority of buyers won't play high-end 3D games, so adding 40W to the power consumption (or however much it draws at idle load) of every next-generation Intel-based computer just wastes the consumer's money and rapes the environment further.

Doc Block posted:

one problem with this is that apple is pretty big on opencl. the 9400M in my mac mini can at least run GPGPU stuff.

Combat Pretzel posted:

The problem I see is that game performance might get a little negative effect by using Hyperthreading. The Windows 7 thread scheduler is HT-aware, but if for some reason it keeps dispatching secondary threads to an already loaded core, it may affect performance.

necrobobsledder posted:

The hardware virtualization acceleration features provided by VT-d are of great importance when your VMs are heavily loaded or you're latency sensitive (graphics, animation). Disk I/O is not really affected by these instructions unless you're running some high-throughput I/O on that desktop system. This is part of why it made sense for VT-d to be removed from baseline Sandy Bridge processors - who the heck running VMs at home has those requirements?

Geno posted:

why the hell do they advertise the full price BEFORE the savings? shouldn't it be the other way around?

Lum posted:

This the first time I've heard of a mini-ITX gaming PC. Normally they're used for car stereos or silly "case mods" where they crammed the entire system into a football or something stupid likt that.

I'm sure if you stuck a mini ITX board on a table and put a modern graphics card in it, the thing would tip over due to the graphics card being heavier and the one single expansion slot being right on the edge.

Sure you're not thinking of Micro ATX?

Alereon posted:

I'm pretty sure H67 doesn't support bifurcation though, so if they wanted the full PCIe v2.0 x4 bandwidth they may have resorted to connecting it to the CPU, especially if they had any desire to make use of switchable graphics or Quick Sync. If they ran it off the southbridge it would be competing for bandwidth with the other system devices.

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

It's not integrated to the 7-series chipset, no.

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MSI doesn't have an estimate on pricing yet but I'm hearing that the Thunderbolt controller should add another $20 - $30 on average to any design.

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MSI mentioned they were hopeful the price would be in the $150 range which is actually quite a good surprise considering they are going to be including the Thunderbolt cable in the box - an accessory that is notoriously expensive today. 

Factory Factory posted:

Said the person buying processors costing 4 iPads each.

Coredump posted:

I just wonder if thunderbolt support will be worth it on desktop side.

movax posted:

hobbesmaster posted:

And SNB-E is still the highest end consumer hardware. As discussed earlier IVB-E and related xeons won't be out for quite a while so there's plenty of SNB related processors still being sold.

As for embedded, Intel will still sell you Pentium 3s if you want them.

mayodreams posted:

Right. And like others have mentioned, its not graphics cards that are the bottleneck here, its professional stuff like capture, transcoding, and RAID controllers. Our typical Mac Pro setup has a AJA Kona 3 video card and an ATTO RAID card, which both require a 4x slot. The RED suite has a RED rocket that requires an 8x slot and the aforementioned RAID card.

Apple keeps telling us ThunderBolt is the solution to all of our professional problems, and that just is not the case right now.

mayodreams posted:

Right, I've seen that, and they are not using any kind of storage along with that either. The BlackMagic box is also not as powerful as the Kona3. I'm not saying it won't work in any capacity, it's just not the miracle Apple claims it to be.

KillHour posted:

Pfft. 3840x2160@60Hz (with Display Port) for <$700?

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-28-In...rds=UHD+monitor
http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LU28D590DS/ZN

Yes, please!

It's TN instead of IPS, but gently caress it; 4K, 28" monitor for less than 4 figures.

Factory Factory posted:

Basically not at all. For some reason I can't Google up literally any of the review articles on this, but even the most beefy of single-GPU video cards lose barely 1% on average dropping from PCIe 3.0 x16 all the way to x4 (or PCIe 2.0 x8).

At 1080p you likely won't even see a full 1% drop, as it shows up more at higher resolutions like 2560x1440.

Number19 posted:

I wonder if that's going to delay the Haswell-E release?

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Update II: Intel has gotten back to us with some more information about how the TSX erratum affects its upcoming Xeon CPUs.

The launch of Intel's high-volume Haswell-EP processors is rapidly approaching, and the TSX errata apparently won't delay that product launch. Instead, a spokesman for the firm informs us that TSX will be available for software developers to enable "for development purposes" on Haswell-EP, so that their code will be "ready for production" once the higher-end Haswell-EX processors arrive at a later date.

In other words, we expect Haswell-EP to ship on schedule with the TSX erratum still etched into its silicon and TSX instructions disabled via a microcode patch. Those who wish to risk working with TSX in Haswell-EP will have the option to enable it via a firmware menu, but Intel recommends waiting for Haswell-EX before using TSX in production systems.

Since the single-socket, enthusiast-oriented Haswell-E processors are based on the same silicon as the lower-end Xeon EP parts, I'd expect the upcoming Core i7 Extreme CPUs to have TSX disabled in microcode, as well.

Tab8715 posted:

I need to take a step back and while the performance gains aren't necessarily impressive from the desktop perspective or for those of us power users whom are still on Sandy Bridge but what does it mean of HTPCs and Laptops?

Wulfolme posted:

Has there been any reason for Thunderbolt to become popular that has legs? All I've seen for it are monitor hookups for big Macs and serious business peripherals that have firewire, usb 3 or straight up pci-e connected models available as well.

Gwaihir posted:

Ahh yea I remember that article now. I wonder if win10 + increased number of CPU driven PCIe lanes will help out with that.

Shaocaholica posted:

Historical question time!

Did the Core '1' Duo share chipset and socket with (early) Core 2 Duo? Would a 32bit Core '1' Duo drop into a Core 2 Duo system and work fine? Of course in 32bit only.

Combat Pretzel posted:

That Kaby Lake stuff led me to find out that AVX-512 stuff will only be enabled on the Xeon variants of Skylake? Why's that? No space on the die, ditching the IGP to gain transistors for AVX-512?