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Matlock Birthmark posted:That was my point as well. I was pointing out that it's not technically true what Cestrian said about Mary Sue's being unlikable. We as an audiance can dislike a character such as Ethan, but in comic universe, no one acknowledges that he's a jerk, and he doesn't suffer negatively for it. I think a further point is that when it comes to Mary Sues, the characters within the story don't call them on anything because in general the author wants everyone, audience included, to love them. Because aren't they just so obviously perfect and amazing? quote:Now the first chapters, when we didn't have many other characters, and the story was more narrated by Annie, ya I can see a bit of Mary Sue. This, I think just boils down to "Annie is narrating, therefore Annie makes herself look more competent and better than she really is." For a lot of the early part of the story (especially looking back on it when we've seen what comes later), it very much seems like Annie tries to act a lot more grown up and mature than she really is (the makeup, the way she talks). Slowly but surely, we've seen Annie grow by allowing herself to act her age, though she's kind of bad at it (i.e. acting mean mostly for the sake of it and having it backfire). I suppose if everyone's mentioning, I started reading over the summer. Chibisoma's rant got brought up in one of the mock threads, which led to a "Gunnerkrigg Court is really good and you all should check it out if you haven't" derail. So I did, and I fell in love right away. I never really thought to look at this thread until a few days ago, but now that I have, I'm glad I did. Lots of interesting discussion.
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One thing that no one seems to have mentioned is how witnessbot seems to wildly change positions in relation to the other robots during his recording. There's at least two entirely different positions, with no real indication how he moved between them. Not sure if I'm going anywhere with this, or if it even means anything.
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Jan 5, 2013 03:39
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Mazerunner posted:Nah in the fourth panel he's behind them, looking in the opposite direction of the 'camera' as this one. You're right, thanks. Forgot the whole sequence of events.
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Jan 5, 2013 06:40
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Cat Mattress posted:http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=386 Only problem I've got with this is that that conversation was with Jones, and no one else was around. Jones seems like she'd be looking for the person who could most capably perform the medium's job, that is, mediating between the Court and the Forest. You could take it as an indication of a greater pattern that the Court might notice in making their decision, but the other thing to keep in mind is that this was just about the first we'd seen of Parley and Smitty, and they've both changed a decent amount since then (though admittedly, Parley more than Smitty). If I remember correctly, Smitty didn't seem to have any objections to the whole plan to help Jeanne. On the other hand, from what we've seen of all of them, I think Smitty's the closest to what the medium is supposed to be: neutral and conciliatory. Parley's too much of a hothead, and Annie seems to care more about the Forest than she does the Court.
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Feb 9, 2013 01:18
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Diet Conan Doyle posted:Outlandish theory: Anthony was somehow aware of Annie's medium candidacy and contacted the Court to put a stop to it. Well... http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=292 It hasn't been quite long enough, but it sure is getting close. And "hear from" doesn't necessarily mean "show up."
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Feb 11, 2013 20:44
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This whole discussion has given me an interesting if somewhat distressing thought: What if Annie is supposed to be a new guide of the dead? She said she led her mother to the other side once she died, because none of the guides came for her. Later, Renard told her that none of the guides came because there was nothing left of Surma to take, the fire elemental ancestry passing her essence to Annie and all. But then, shouldn't it have been impossible to bring Surma to the other side? It's been confirmed that the important word on that page is "waiting", so the question is, what is Jeanne waiting for? Muut said that none of the guides could help her. The last thing he says on that page is "Then you have already begun to help. We knew you would. It was only a matter of time." What if what Jeanne is waiting for is a guide to take her to the other side, and that's Annie? What if Annie is supposed to be a guide who can take the departed that the others can't? Just a thought. Probably some holes there, knowing my track record with theory-crafting.
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Feb 21, 2013 23:44
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Cat Mattress posted:The posture is possible, but not with her right shoulder straight to the side. If you imitate that move, your shoulder leans forward and your arm goes over your chest. Here she has her shoulder straight and her arm along her side. Trying to do that pose myself, the problem seems to have more to do with the angle of her upper arm than her shoulder. Looking at the picture again, Kat's got her shoulder a bit forward. I can't seem to mimic her upper arm pointing basically straight down, however. Not to mention, no matter what I do, I can't seem to keep my arm behind my chest from that angle, and still have my reach about to my other shoulder. I have officially put way too much effort into this.
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Mar 12, 2013 02:21
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Prison Warden posted:Well we know from Brinnie that Odin exists, as does presumably the whole Norse pantheon. And Coyotes mentioned other Native American spirits. Given the nature of the ether I think every myth is real. Considering how much Darkstalkers stuff Tom's been doing? Yes, I think we should.
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Apr 24, 2013 00:42
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Kennel posted:Speaking of absence, we haven't seen Tic-Toc birds in ages. That, quite frankly, I think is intentional. We will almost certainly see them again at some point. Probably once we find out what they're really all about. Which may or may not have something to do with Kat's new robot design.
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May 30, 2013 19:39
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SHISHKABOB posted:Probably works the same way a forest works. Forests just sort of you know grow and stuff and hang out. Forests don't get old and dilapidated after a while, they are in a constant state of growth and renewal and reusing the old stuff to make new stuff. I doubt very much that the actual Court people are in control of this process, or at least they are in much the way a bunch of animals are in control of the way a forest grows. Well, yes, but one of the most important ingredients in keeping a forest growing is sunlight, a.k.a. energy being input. It could be that whatever process keeps the court growing needs a constant supply of etheric energy, but can't gather it on its own. Also, all this talk of growing the court has me wondering about Kat's plans for "growing" Robot's new body.
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Jun 22, 2013 04:54
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Saoshyant posted:I'm more curious by the comment at the bottom: options? Implying she can get around doll bodies, maybe taking over people? That might be a Gradius reference, referring to her little floating sparkly bits. Though I suppose that would be capitalized. Still, it's a pretty funny idea for what those are. Or terrifying, considering Hetty's personality.
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Jul 1, 2013 14:25
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The Red Queen posted:I removed the speech bubble fragment, hope that's okay! And the quote would be, "Now, you see my TRUE FORM!"
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Jul 29, 2013 22:10
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That's quite a claim there, big rainbow glowy-thing. I'm certainly intrigued. Go on.
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Sep 9, 2013 14:54
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isasphere posted:Her clothes are also turning gray and getting the Ether Vision texture too (it's more noticeable on her green blouse). And as one final detail, Annie's hair is only that long/big in the Ether.
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Sep 13, 2013 18:36
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Drakyn posted:No lipring, disappointed, 0/10. See that tentacle coming from underneath the eye tentacles that attaches to the thing's chest? Kinda looks like it attaches about where a lip would be, doesn't it? Kantesu fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Mar 1, 2014 |
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Mar 1, 2014 02:25
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Surprised no one has mentioned the shirt the fairy/sprite/whatever is wearing is the cover image for the chapter.
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May 21, 2014 18:26
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idonotlikepeas posted:On the topic of Janet and Winsbury: In addition to what other people have said, it's also likely a reference to the folk tale Winsbury and Janet are (vaguely) based on, Willie o' Winsbury: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_O_Winsbury.
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Aug 17, 2014 10:50
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There was one time when Annie didn't have the cut on her face in Zimmytown. When she was actually Zimmy: http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=727
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The Mentalizer posted:Considering Coyote's reaction when he discovered that Annie was not Surma but actually Surma's daughter (I believe it was "Eglamore, you hound!"), I somehow doubt the fire elemental's reproductive cycle is asexual in nature. http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=819 May I direct you to Tom's comment on the page in question.
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You've also just inadvertently answered the question of whether all fairies are born "hollow" or not (the bunny's fairy friend doesn't have completely blank eyes). Compare: http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1355 http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=128 I suppose you could argue it's a change in style, and that fairy still doesn't have pupils. Though, again, a few pages ago, when the rabbit got it's soul totem pulled out, its eyes went completely white (but of course its eyes were completely black before that).
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Feb 15, 2015 14:15
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New thought that popped into my head reading idonotlikepeas' post: Whatever's going on with Annie and the Fire is supposed to be permanent, and fixing it will give her/everyone else some insight into how to help/free Jeanne.
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One thing I just noticed looking at Friday's page again: Great big Bismuth symbol right in the middle of it, positioned to make you think it's the sun at a glance (with an oddly familiar arrangement of colors inside). Don't think anyone mentioned that before.
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Aug 12, 2015 18:17
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Can't wait till next chapter where we find out that the headmaster is actually a super cool dad and Vegeta and Whatsherface are just being over-reactionary kids like most teenagers. Well, that would sort of be in line with the story they're based on.
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Aug 22, 2015 23:39
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Demiurge4 posted:I was beginning to think that people in the court don't die, they get frozen down when their old or their souls get stored like we've seen before. But that doesn't jive with the ROTD recordings from the court founders, unless the storing people came later. There's a little moment between Kat's parents when they send her off with the key to her robot lab where they talk about "their time" is over. If I'm right, it's likely that when one generation grows up and takes over as teachers in the Court, the old generation steps down. Have we actually seen any elderly people around the court? For old people, there was the former Dragon Slayer: http://gunnerkrigg.com/?p=541
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Aug 26, 2015 18:43
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PubicMice posted:We covered this, she's 4.5 billion. Technically, that chapter ended with Jones saying, "I don't remember anything before that," leaving the possibility she's actually even older.
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Dec 31, 2015 01:32
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Plan was: 1. Get rid of arrow (because it's what tied Jeanne to the river and prevented her from being taken to the Ether) 2. Have Annie take Jeanne into the Ether Presumably, they still want to do 2, but weren't expecting the removal of the arrow to elicit the response it did. I'm expecting they'll find some way to talk her down...but something bad'll probably happen first.
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Dogwood Fleet posted:More importantly, what's Red's friend's name going to be? Smitty, of course. And she'll use her powers to make everyone think she's the original model.
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The lack of arrows on the dialog boxes supports that interpretation (I've been reading it that way as well).
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Jan 23, 2017 20:35
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About that chapter again: at the beginning of the conversation, Tony said he went to find the psychopomps. I think the general assumption at the time was that he found something else. Based on what happened at the end of the whole Jeanne thing, maybe those were psychopomps. And whatever they were having him do had something to do with getting Annie to work for them.
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Jul 17, 2017 20:15
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I would assume we're seeing a representation of Ysengrin's memory, as it exists post-eating. So Coyote is selectively removing memories to create a particular narrative in Ysengrin's head. Or something like that.
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Feb 2, 2018 23:38
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It's also entirely possible that the buried Tik-Tok was entirely Coyote's doing. Order or force Ysengrin to do something, then eat the memory, so when he finds it months later, he's legitimately pissed, giving them an excuse to visit the court. Also, didn't the robots have a depiction of a Tik-Tok on a banner at some point? That would seem to strengthen the association with Kat more than anything, even though I think that was long before she was really getting going with the robots.
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Feb 14, 2018 17:11
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Zore posted:I sort of think Eglamore is going to die or maybe get badly wounded here. I'm pretty sure Eglamore has to die at some point just so Tom can have a comment on a page focused on Jones that says "That Lady is Eglamore." Bonus points if that comment is how we find out Eglamore is for sure dead.
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Macaluso posted:Is that a Chibisoma alt account No, he seems to be crazy in the complete opposite direction.
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Anybody else notice the weird green root/tree/blood vessel looking stuff in the background of just about every ether-y page that Loup's been on so far (and don't appear to have shown up pre-Loup)? They seem to show up wherever he's got influence. The only page they're noticeably missing from is the page where he claims he can break the Court barrier: https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2023 As if we weren't already thinking he might be lying about that. One other place they're missing is when he's talking about Renard doing "as he pleases" here: https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2020 though it's only the panel he's specifically talking about Renard. They appear as soon as Ysengrin does in the next panel. The trees appear to be turning into them here: https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2031 which makes sense sinse he apparently froze the entire forest.
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Aug 30, 2018 19:29
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I feel like this is setting up for one of two things, both resulting in Loup getting Tooth'd (whatever that ends up doing): 1. Annie returns the Tooth, not knowing that Loup didn't know about, separating/killing/whatevering him 2. After returning the bone and water, Annie goes "There's one more thing that Coyote gave me," cue Parley bipping in with the Tooth.
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Sep 26, 2018 21:57
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Is that a lotus design around the egg? What's the white glowing teardrop thing in Annie's hand? Or is it just to mirror the heart? Annie's outfit is pretty obviously calling back to Ysengrin's old duds (looks a bit like the outfit she's been wearing lately, but that doesn't have the red lines that are here. Plus the neckline and sleeves are different). Hanging from Kat's dress: The Arrow, a peacock feather, and something else (rectangular, with lines or cracks in it).
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Oct 12, 2018 22:23
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Well, now his eyes don't have to be right next to them, is the point.
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Oct 26, 2018 14:08
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Oh yeah, I came up with names for both of the Annies: Court Annie can be Courtnie and Forest Annie can be Frannie. Never mind that that isn't how those names are usually spelled.
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Jan 7, 2019 19:24
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Idea: Annie never left the forest, and the Court she went back to is a construct made by Loup. That was the trick.
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A few thoughts: - Annie dies if she ever has a kid. But what if she doesn't? Regular human lifespan, or would she basically be immortal? - Jones "attaches" herself to people, moving on when they die. I've been pretty certain that Eglamore is going to die at some point (if for no other reason than for Tom to be able to have a comment of "That lady is Eglamore" the first time Jones shows up after he dies; but Parley being on a course to replace him would seem to suggest that too). So who would Jones attach herself to next? She's already shown a great deal of interest in Annie, and told Annie a lot about herself (well, her entire history, basically).
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