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Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

I LIKE TO MAKE VAGUE THREATS TO PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET BECAUSE I AM TOUGH GUY. P.S. ASK ME ABOUT THE TIME A GIRL BEAT ME UP IN GRADE SCHOOL. HER NAME WAS SUZIE SHE DREW A BIG WEINER ON MY FOREHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The White Dragon posted:

does cyber sleuth let you get away with using lower-tier evolutions or do they have level/stat caps that make them unusable after a certain point like pokemon?

The Complete Edition adds some Rookie and Champion-tier mons with incredibly busted special skills.

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Zore
Sep 21, 2010




The White Dragon posted:

does cyber sleuth let you get away with using lower-tier evolutions or do they have level/stat caps that make them unusable after a certain point like pokemon?

Every Digimon has stat caps and set stat growths. You could probably beat the game with a team of Champion level Digimon but you're pretty much SOL if you want to use forms lower than that just because of how awful their stats will be in comparison.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Ask me about the hate crime perpetrated against a gay black man, and how it was a real hate crime and totally not fabricated. I am well acquainted with the facts of this actual hate crime which actually took place in actuality.

cyber sleuth becomes a much better game if you cheat in higher run speed. i don't know what the heck they were thinking with that.

The White Dragon
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!


Zore posted:

Every Digimon has stat caps and set stat growths. You could probably beat the game with a team of Champion level Digimon but you're pretty much SOL if you want to use forms lower than that just because of how awful their stats will be in comparison.

well let's say i only use like one or two rookies and the rest higher rank would that be ok? i haven't really kept up with the series in over a decade but i'd still like to use my favorites if i can

Utgardaloki
Mar 2, 2009


the reason the P5 theme-as-antagonist sucks is because power discrepancy is actually responsible for a lot of real-world suffering so it's a hugely personal conflict to write a game around, and in reality it's perpetrated by actual trashfire people who never get their comeuppance and even conversation about whether or not they should is hot-button and controversial.

so when it gets swept away for humanity's collective subservience as a villain it's very unsatisfying, because in the real world Shido/Kamoshida/The Guy who Cheats at CoD aren't 'distorted' or resisting some greater call to collective bootlicking, they're just poo poo, the people who let them get away with it are poo poo, and writing around it was always going to feel cowardly.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012


gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

cyber sleuth becomes a much better game if you cheat in higher run speed. i don't know what the heck they were thinking with that.

Hackers memory has one of the skills be this and it makes it so much easier to get around lol

Zore
Sep 21, 2010




The White Dragon posted:

well let's say i only use like one or two rookies and the rest higher rank would that be ok? i haven't really kept up with the series in over a decade but i'd still like to use my favorites if i can

I mean you should be fine. You can have up to nine Digimon in your party with each taking up a variable 2-25 'memory' points. You start the he with 25 total Capacity and get upgrades after certain story triggers. If you just want to have like 2 Rookies in addition to a core of others then you can easily cart them along and it won't be a problem

The White Dragon
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!


cool thanks everybody. i've wanted to play a digimon game since the first one came out on the playstation but we never got that, and the games in bewteen never really interested me until cyber sleuth, or maybe the one just before it. so i guess i'm going to have a lot of space to learn and put in really powerful characters alongside the lovely rookies and champions i remember

King of Solomon
Oct 23, 2008

S S


RottenK posted:

i feel like this is unfair to disco elysium, which is legit a cool and well written RPG and not chapo: the game (thank god)

not sure if i want the devs to make persona though, that really doesn't feels like a good fit, even if the result would probably be, if nothing else, fascinating

A Persona style game as written by Eastern European marxists would be incredible.

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

woof woof
I am a dog and I'm posting online. it's good to post online with friends.
woof bark woof



RottenK posted:

i feel like this is unfair to disco elysium, which is legit a cool and well written RPG and not chapo: the game (thank god)

ZA/UM got the Chapos to work for free by convincing them no one would buy the game, and cast them as union thugs, so I really see their involvement as the result of a prank Lol

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007



an actual dog posted:

ZA/UM got the Chapos to work for free by convincing them no one would buy the game, and cast them as union thugs, so I really see their involvement as the result of a prank Lol

https://twitter.com/studiozaum/stat...592958731051009

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009


people needing to invent weird reasons to 'excuse' people they dont like in a game they do like is pretty lol

mycot
Oct 23, 2014


Hell Gem

Ibram Gaunt posted:

people needing to invent weird reasons to 'excuse' people they dont like in a game they do like is pretty lol

But no you see it's a Good Game and not a Bad Game so any aspects people disagree with are actually 1000 layer deconstructions which people didn't get.

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

woof woof
I am a dog and I'm posting online. it's good to post online with friends.
woof bark woof



I don't dislike either I just think the story is funny, sorry

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

woof woof
I am a dog and I'm posting online. it's good to post online with friends.
woof bark woof



Probably should have been clearer that it's my crackpot theory.

ControlV
Mar 8, 2019


Any good RPGs similar to the original 'Phantasy Star?' I LOVED the Switch port and I can't 100% place why - perhaps the first-person maze exploration? I tried the sequels, but they didn't do it for me.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007



ControlV posted:

Any good RPGs similar to the original 'Phantasy Star?' I LOVED the Switch port and I can't 100% place why - perhaps the first-person maze exploration? I tried the sequels, but they didn't do it for me.

There are quite a few. Do you want something with more of a plot/premade character focus like PS or is branching out to more Wizardry-style stuff OK?

ControlV
Mar 8, 2019


ImpAtom posted:

There are quite a few. Do you want something with more of a plot/premade character focus like PS or is branching out to more Wizardry-style stuff OK?

Oh, good! I suppose the former - I don't really have any experience with 'Wizardry stuff' so can't say for certain on that front.

Dr. Eldarion
Mar 21, 2001

Deal Dispatcher



ControlV posted:

Oh, good! I suppose the former - I don't really have any experience with 'Wizardry stuff' so can't say for certain on that front.

Labyrinth of Refrain maybe? Or if you have other consoles besides the switch, Demon Gaze 1 or 2?

You won't get the overworld from PS, but you will get first-person maze exploration and battles.

Dr. Eldarion fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Jul 3, 2020

CYBEReris
Dec 15, 2007



ControlV posted:

Any good RPGs similar to the original 'Phantasy Star?' I LOVED the Switch port and I can't 100% place why - perhaps the first-person maze exploration? I tried the sequels, but they didn't do it for me.

Shining in the Darkness, maybe? It's in the similar vein of first-person dungeon crawlers simplified for playability on console.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012





CYBEReris posted:

Shining in the Darkness, maybe? It's in the similar vein of first-person dungeon crawlers simplified for playability on console.

Or Shining and the Holy Ark

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices



i forgot that the chapos actually played some characters in DE, so i think i misunderstood what Endorph meant lol

i don't think that anyone's trying to excuse their presence, its funny and they're not even the only people popular among the online left who voiced something, there's at least one other character

RottenK fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Jul 3, 2020

Jazerus
May 24, 2011



ControlV posted:

Any good RPGs similar to the original 'Phantasy Star?' I LOVED the Switch port and I can't 100% place why - perhaps the first-person maze exploration? I tried the sequels, but they didn't do it for me.

megami tensei

there are a lot of old western rpgs that are first person tile-based dungeon crawlers too, but i don't know if i can in good conscience recommend many of them as they tend to be overly obtuse and/or grindy.

Jazerus fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Jul 3, 2020

Zushio
May 8, 2008


Legend of Grimrock is pretty good. Most people prefer the sequel, but I haven't played it.

Barudak
May 7, 2007



Legend of Grimrock 1/2 ain't bad, for that sort of thing. You might also like Operencia, I think its still on gamepass too, which really clicked with me but has some admittedly rough edges but full of eastern european charm.

The issue is a lot of First Person dungeon crawlers gave up the overworld as time progressed and discarded the narrative so if those pieces are important it can be tricky

Mirello
Jan 29, 2006
The Nameless One


gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

cyber sleuth becomes a much better game if you cheat in higher run speed. i don't know what the heck they were thinking with that.

please god tell me how to do this, I used cheat engine but it just speeds up the animation. This would really improve the game for me.

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices



Both Grimrock games are good but have very little story.

My only real gameplay complaint about the second one is that the guns felt very underwhelming as a weapon class.

RottenK fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Jul 3, 2020

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!


Barudak posted:

Legend of Grimrock 1/2 ain't bad, for that sort of thing. You might also like Operencia, I think its still on gamepass too, which really clicked with me but has some admittedly rough edges but full of eastern european charm.

The issue is a lot of First Person dungeon crawlers gave up the overworld as time progressed and discarded the narrative so if those pieces are important it can be tricky

I really wish that Might and Magic 6/7/8 were the games that they were emulating with these new dungeon crawlers.
They're my favourite of the lot and there's honestly nothing like them any more.

In Brigandine news I think I've decided to drop it. Bit sad that it cost me 45 to discover this but I hate the permadeath side of the battles and losing high level creatures is just too much for me. The demo implied it was easy to res creatures but it totally isn't.

Barudak
May 7, 2007



Also don't listen to anyone's lies, Bards Tale IV should be avoided at all costs in this genre

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Ask me about the hate crime perpetrated against a gay black man, and how it was a real hate crime and totally not fabricated. I am well acquainted with the facts of this actual hate crime which actually took place in actuality.

Mirello posted:

please god tell me how to do this, I used cheat engine but it just speeds up the animation. This would really improve the game for me.

it's in one of the tables. i didn't try to use the speedhack option.

edit: looking it up, it is under pointers. run speed is listed as a number, and you just increase that.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Jul 3, 2020

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A Sometimes Food
Dec 8, 2010

Relinquish your foolish
delusions of control.





ControlV posted:

Any good RPGs similar to the original 'Phantasy Star?' I LOVED the Switch port and I can't 100% place why - perhaps the first-person maze exploration? I tried the sequels, but they didn't do it for me.

If you have a 3DS you should check out Etrian Odyssey V. One will probably come oout on the Switch eventually too.

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