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Looper posted:i'm quickly coming to the conclusion that the goemon games with official english releases are in fact the best ones i remeber liking the goeomon game after the 3d one where its a multiplayer sidescroller
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Looper posted:i'm quickly coming to the conclusion that the goemon games with official english releases are in fact the best ones tbh goemon 1 on snes has inoffensive jokes compared to goemon 2 but goemon 2 is a much less awful game to actually play
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the funniest thing in all of goemon is that the second goemon rpg on nes (or it might be the action game? idk there's, two goemon rpgs and two goemon action games on nes) ends with the twist that ebisumaru was actually a beautiful woman who was cursed to look like an ugly bumbling fat guy the whole time, and they finally turn her back into her true form. the series never acknowledged this ebisumaru lore again but i guess it explains why the second reboot made ebisumaru a tiny girl The Colonel fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Feb 25, 2021 16:42
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goemon is lowkey one of the more baffling video game series to ever exist
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I've always been a huge fan of Mystical Ninja N64 as far as Goemon games go, because even as a kid while I didn't 'get' all the references and little mythology/history jokes, it was still quirky and funny and had all sorts of weird poo poo happening all the time which I found fun. Coming back to it as an adult and catching all the stuff I missed was an experience, whoever they got on the localization front really had some fun with it but kept it all recognizable enough if you knew the reference. But from what I'm seeing here, it sounds like the rest are either wildly different, or just kinda not good? That's a shame, I kinda wanted to try out others to see if they had that same sort of charm.
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it was funny back when VGCW was a big thing they introduced the mystical ninjas tag team and based on audience reception in like three weeks goemon was off the show and ebisumaru was getting a bunch of storyline focus. that's my goemon story
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I'm also quickly coming to the conclusion that command mission is a big slog in the second half. random encounters just take too long for how frequent they are and i can't really think of any remedies that don't involve a bunch of grinding edit: three minutes in a battle, thirty seconds out of battle, two minutes in another battle 
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i mean they all hit similar notes in how weird and quirky their humor is they just also, are largely written like bad 90s shounen comedy manga that keep repeating the worst jokes you'd find in one of those. and every snes game except the second one for some reason makes every possible gameplay decision you could make to keep the game from actually being fun though kirakira douchuu, the fourth snes game, does inexplicably have a part where a purple doom guy tries to murder you 
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Shyfted One posted:Wow, was not expecting that twist in Tales of Berseria Laphicet being Innominat and it being his idea (although what was Artorius' plan if Laphicet didn't offer himself?) I knew there had to be something because of how little info they were giving you with Artorius after tens of hours of gameplay. i don’t think Laphicet specifically being Inominat is hinted anywhere but theres a book in that one temple you go in to kill the drug lord priest that details the Twelve Year Sickness and um, yeah, it’s pretty illuminating to at least part of the twist. I think Phi’s character side quest is him making a friend with someone dying of the Sickness too with the same symptoms as Laphi, though I don’t remember if that part comes up before the reveal.
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Elvis_Maximus posted:I never knew there were so many of those games. it holds up in english because the localizers made the queer-bashing a lot less overt. goemon & co. just refer to the villains as "weirdos" while from what i understand, in japanese it was a much more specific gay-panic kind of thing i love the overall atmosphere of goemon and really wish there were still games like that coming out frequently, but they almost always have this problem and it sucks
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So uh... Bravely Default II is out tomorrow and I forgot that Bravely Second was a thing at all Also Default II seems like it’s pretty drat hard at some points, so someone has to be excited goblin week posted:holy poo poo it’s caled other m because mother After defeating Mother Brain, Samus laments the loss of The Baby (Metroid) and how it gave its life for hers. But she now has to go to the BOTTLE SHIP (game puts it in all caps sometimes?) because her ship was in range of its distress signal named “Baby’s Cry” Other M was... not very subtle about anything
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Jazerus posted:it holds up in english because the localizers made the queer-bashing a lot less overt. goemon & co. just refer to the villains as "weirdos" while from what i understand, in japanese it was a much more specific gay-panic kind of thing tbf the gay bashing in the n64 games is way less bad than the snes games
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Any hot tips for Suikoden 1? Is it easy enough to gently caress around and pick random dialogue choices? Do they matter at all?
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beating the game is effortless, but you should find a guide if you want to recruit everyone and get the good ending.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:beating the game is effortless, but you should find a guide if you want to recruit everyone and get the good ending. also be sure to keep Pan leveled and geared up
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:beating the game is effortless, but you should find a guide if you want to recruit everyone and get the good ending. Probably the worst offender of this is that there's a late game character that requires you have 4 specific characters in your party. This isn't so bad except for the fact that there are very few points in the story where you have 4 open character slots, as often plot-critical party members are filling them up. It's entirely possible to be locked out of him entirely just because plot characters are too loving clingy.
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is there something resembling a low spoiler guide that also tells you how to recruit everyone, or is that an insane ask?
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Arzaac posted:Probably the worst offender of this is that there's a late game character that requires you have 4 specific characters in your party. This isn't so bad except for the fact that there are very few points in the story where you have 4 open character slots, as often plot-critical party members are filling them up. It's entirely possible to be locked out of him entirely just because plot characters are too loving clingy. Can confirm, this sucks and happened to me the first time I beat the game. poe meater posted:Any hot tips for Suikoden 1? Is it easy enough to gently caress around and pick random dialogue choices? Do they matter at all? I'll spoiler these since they let you kinda break the game difficulty: * The "guess the cup" game, on PSX, is not randomized so just memorize the first couple of spots and stop playing/start playing and do this to make 500k or so Potch really fast if you want tons of money at the start of the game. * Since you gain XP on a curve you can use this to power level by xping in areas outside of progress. IE: When you head through the south checkpoint you can head south in to the forest and fight a 6 enemy fight that will jump your levels to possibly higher than that area (and much higher than the house/lake castle areas). * Using the above, when you get to the warrior village you can have a 2x xp rune by that point. You can also have a window where you only have the main character. If you give the champion rune to someone and take them + Tir to Neclord's castle and do the 5 enemy fight with the nightmare/unicorn thing, you can boost that non-Tir character to endgame levels or higher. Taking Tir there solo will also let you do the same to him. If you're going to play Suikoden 2 (and you absolutely should without question because the story is great), certain characters carry over certain things. Armor on Humphrey is a big one (so give him windspun armor in S1). I think a bunch of other characters carry partial weapon levels over.
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there are probably multiple guides to that effect on gamefaqs. ps1 era rpgs got a lot of love.
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I'm taking a break on my Wizardry journey for now. Just finished 3 and due to thread warning about 4 decided I need to be in a mindset to have my balls stepped on in high heels before I begin. So I want to recharge before going on. I want to try Arx Fatalis now before I go back. I looked up mods for it and there's a few but none stand out as the MUST HAVE best to play it in 2021. I even saw a unity engine port. Anyone have any recommendations they've tried for a recent playthrough ?
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Givin posted:I'm taking a break on my Wizardry journey for now. Just finished 3 and due to thread warning about 4 decided I need to be in a mindset to have my balls stepped on in high heels before I begin. So I want to recharge before going on. Please do not play Wizardry 4. It is not a game meant to be played by humans.
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What are the good Wizardry games? I realized I've never played one but I do love dungeon crawlers.
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Ethiser posted:Please do not play Wizardry 4. It is not a game meant to be played by humans.  "FOR EXPERT PLAYERS ONLY" Harrow posted:What are the good Wizardry games? I realized I've never played one but I do love dungeon crawlers. The PS2 one Tales of the Forsaken Land is probably my favorite aside from that.
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When sir tech designed the early wizardry games they had no accounting for the idea that people would jump on kid series, wizardry 4 is designed for the super fans who already beat the hell outta the first three games and it shows.
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poe meater posted:Any hot tips for Suikoden 1? Is it easy enough to gently caress around and pick random dialogue choices? Do they matter at all? Certain dialogue choices will absolutely matter, but they're dramatic as hell, you'll probably know them when you see them.
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Gaius Marius posted:When sir tech designed the early wizardry games they had no accounting for the idea that people would jump on kid series, wizardry 4 is designed for the super fans who already beat the hell outta the first three games and it shows. Making a game that only appeals to people who bought and beat your previous 3 games seems like a bad business plan. Let's pretend 1 million people bought Wizardry 3 (no idea if that's way less or way more than the real number) and 50% beat it (that number is way too high) "Let's make a game that only half a million people will enjoy, maximum"
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Harrow posted:What are the good Wizardry games? I realized I've never played one but I do love dungeon crawlers. Wiz 8 is pretty cool and much better than say, Ultima's 3D attempt. There's a Wiz thread in the archives here that should have some good suggestions: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3551202
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Skwirl posted:Making a game that only appeals to people who bought and beat your previous 3 games seems like a bad business plan. welllll having wiz 4 just be really hard if you had never played any of the other three was actually a step up as a business plan wiz 2 & wiz 3 both required you to own wiz 1, because they didn't come with a character creator; you had to import characters from wiz 1. furthermore, wiz 2 expects you to import a game-winning (or at least very high-level) party from wiz 1, and if you play legit, then when a character dies permanently in wiz 2, you have to go back and grind their replacement up in wiz 1 before importing. wiz 3, wisely, expects level 1 characters and in fact de-levels you if you're higher.
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Oh they realized that later brenda romero was on the retro hour last week talking about it. This was the wild west days of game design though it at ultima were basically the only games in the genre they had no idea what they were really doing.
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Jazerus posted:welllll How the gently caress did this company live long enough to make the rest of the series?
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have you seen the video game market in the 80s
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Skwirl posted:How the gently caress did this company live long enough to make the rest of the series? coasting on wiz 1 money (including licensing it to ASCII Software for distribution in japan which made, uh, a lot of money) for 8 years until they fired woodhead & greenberg and hired david bradley, who might have been a goofy fucker but he had played RPGs other than wizardry. also, selling wizardry hint books and publishing a few games by independent devs. wiz 1 was a better dungeon crawler than anything that would be produced by anybody for several years after - might & magic is probably the first game that really outdoes it, a whole 5 years later! the sir-tech staff was like, ten people tops, including two rich failsons as management, so they had a lot of room to sit around and make bad decisions in the wake of their single mega-hit
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The Colonel posted:have you seen the video game market in the 80s
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Yeah keep in mind that this was the period of time people were flinging poo poo at the wall to see what stuck. They were far from the only company to do wild stuff like that.
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the actually insane thing about wiz 4 that made it a commercial failure is that it's both way too hard, and runs on exactly the same engine as wiz 1. mechanically, graphically, the works so let's say you're an rpg enthusiast with an apple II and a sega master system shopping in early 1988. you can go home with this...  or this 
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b-bernie?
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woah! wizard bernie!
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He's gonna distribute a wealth of pain among everyone equally  .
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"FOR EXPERT PLAYERS ONLY" "Hint Book BEGINNER LEVEL Enclosed" 
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Tamba posted:"FOR EXPERT PLAYERS ONLY" Its a single 8.5x11 sheet that says "Thou Art Doomed"
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