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fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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thank god to the dude who mentioned valkyrie profile 2.
valkyrie profile is pretty much my favorite RPG, I've been meaning to get around to playing the sequel. the SRPG for the ds isn't quite as good, though, but it's okay.
valkyrie profile: hrist please :allears:

I love most everything tri-Ace does, esp VP and radiata stories, which was the perfect example of a game that does not take itself seriously - at all.
I mean, the main character and his dad are named after dogs.

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fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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PlasticPaddy posted:

I got wasted the other night and ordered a few PS2 RPGs:

Radiata Stories
How'd I do?

this game owns bones. I wish I actually still had my PS2 and copy of this

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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he's telling you to use a guide so you know how to get the best ending. don't use a guide for the actual dungeons unless you need to [a few of them are REALLY HARD - a certain wizard's tower comes to mind], but make sure you know what you're doing to get the best ending. it's definitely a thing you'd probably need a guide to get.

alternatively, if you want to fully explore the bonus dungeon, you might need a guide to find the Flame Orbs or whatever you need to find in the dungeons, because iirc some of them are tough to find. i explored most of the dungeons pretty well though, just for the sake of experience

the reason for playing on Hard is that a] you get more characters in it b] you get more dungeons c] you get better items. though you start at level 1, the better items probably make it easier in the long run.

e: i wouldn't bother with worrying about the flame orb things on your first run, anyway. i really like that game and i still haven't beaten the bonus dungeon. there are a few items you should probably make an effort to grab in towers [like one that makes it possible to make better fusions/items in the aforementioned tower], but really, if you make a big effort at exploring anyway, you should end up finding them on your own

it's really the requirements for getting the best ending that you need the guide for

vvv the bonus dungeon is fun, but eh, if he's doing a first runthrough i'd say it might be more fun to not worry about the items needed for it.

fronz fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Nov 15, 2011

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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You can really take all of Odin's poo poo, as long as you send up a fully upgraded Einherjar at the end of each chapter [as in, make sure to get all their Hero Stats or whatever to their max.] Freya will give you advice at the beginning of each chapter on who they need; you'll rarely be able to satisfy all her criteria, but 2 out of 3 is good enough; if you can do that, she'll give you a lot of points for fusion/item creation, and you'll be in good enough shape to take basically every artifact.

iirc, you can never use Arngrim in the endgame. He's still good as a party member as long as you continue to level up other characters to send up.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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I'm pretty sure lenneth's bow outclasses her sword like all game, actually

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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Skwirl posted:

Non-Americans can participate in Kickstarter.

It requires an amazon payments account to either run a kickstarter or donate. Amazon payments accounts are american-only.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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My mistake. US citizenship is a requirement to have an account that receives money, not sends.



I know there've been issues in the past, though, where people couldn't donate because Kickstarter used amazon instead of paypal (and hence why there's oftentimes separate donation drives for the big projects on their website that accept paypal)

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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Forcing you to look stuff up in supplemental material to play the game is a dumb gimmick that was old when I was 6. You shouldn't be forced to go to the PS menu and open the 70 page art book to play the game.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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Bongo Bill posted:

Dark Dawn amplifies the original games; the good is better, the bad is worse.

I disagree, I think it's worse than the originals in every way. I liked the originals but just put down Dark Dawn about a fifth of the way in because it was so annoyingly bad. (Seriously? Points of no return in a game where collecting stuff is essential to keeping your party strong?)

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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Has tri-Ace ever made a mediocre game? I thought about it recently and I'm pretty sure every tri-Ace game I've ever played I either absolutely loved or absolutely hated.

On a more 'searching for a game' note, is there any game that has the same sort of apocalyptic everything-will-be-reborn aesthetic as Nocturne? I haven't played other SMT games but I absolutely loved Nocturne's setting (and it reminded me a lot of Baroque, for whatever reason, which I also loved both as a game and as a setting/story, even if the designs were a bit anime). Any suggestions for other games with similar settings/aesthetics?

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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SO4 is garbage. Also nene that's because you're a bad person who hates fun, sorey

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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Terranigma owns bones but I never get around to replaying it because I kinda frankly find the opening two acts to be incredibly dull. Until you hit Zuu it's just sorta bland and boring. Soul Blazer's great and doesn't have that problem.
Illusion of Gaia was lame and I'll stand by this fact forever

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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GulagDolls posted:

I hate you more than anyone in the entire world

The combat took too long to be not supereasy and way too long for you to unlock the various different abilities. The best dungeon in the game is that one with the multiple floors you can fall up and down through (Great wall? Pyramids? I don't remember) and it takes way too long to get to a point where the gameplay is interesting!!
Then again the above implies to Terranigma as well but at least the first two acts are really only about a third of the game at most.


Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

I always though Zuu was the absolute low point of the game, since you have that horribly boring quest with the lion cub to get through. Otherwise I pretty much agree, IoG is the weakest of the three, Soulblazer the best.

Then which is the lush forest-y one that you bring back to life? I hated the one with the cub but I did really like the place where you had to make the four quadrants alive again or whatever (it's been a while since I've played it :I)

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

Oh it looks like I was wrong, Zuu was the foresty area with the rolling logs and such. It's the area immediately after that (Canyon) with the lion cub escort quest.

Yeah, Canyon was garbage. Luckily it was the shortest area of the second act, and after it was the icy mountain and it was pretty cool.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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The White Dragon posted:

I gotta admit I'm not a big fan of the Canyon or the Ice Mountain (or Norfest or Bloody Mary's Castle), but the Ra Tree and the Greclif are among my favorite dungeons.


Greclif is neat in theory but the fact that everything looks the same and gets you lost isn't particularly fun. The slow movement while climbing also bugged the hell out of me. Norfest isn't that bad, and neither is BMC (until you get to Bloody Mary herself, and gently caress that boss, especially because I rarely grind in games)

Magic ring did three damage to Bloody Mary!! I entered the castle at like level 18 or something, and you have to be level 22 to even do nontrivial damage. I just 1HP'd her to death.

fronz fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Apr 14, 2013

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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An evil man from times past, whose plan to zombify the world led Light Gaia to imprison the world or whatever, rises again and begins his plan. He nearly kills Ark, but Light Gaia saves him. Light Gaia tells Ark to go get the starstones to ressurect the old hero who will help out. He does, and the old hero looks exactly like Ark (because Ark is essentially a copy that Dark Gaia made of the hero in order to bring back the world and specifically Beruga). Hero Ark kills our Ark, and for reasons they're resurrected into the same being. Ark kills Beruga and Dark Gaia but this means that Ark (as a creation of Dark Gaia) is gon' die. He enjoys his last day in Crysta. In the Epilogue the princess Elle from the actual world hears a knock on the door, implying that either Ark got resurrected a-fuckin-gain or that it's the original hero ark, here to say 'heyo'.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

Do they ever explain why the world was sealed away/destroyed originally in the first place? And then why did Dark Gaia want to resurrect the world anyway? He just get bored and wanted Beruga to be a jerk to people I guess?

The world was sealed away by Light Gaia because of Beruga - IIRC it was something about how it's better to have the world in stasis than in the zombified stasis that Beruga wanted; the former temporary, the latter permanent I guess. Dark Gaia wanted that permanent destruction, so he wanted to unseal the world and bring Beruga back and have pain and suffering and whatnot. Actually thinking on it I seem to remember that basically Dark Gaia stood for eugenics (Beruga), the whole JRPG 'chaos means the strongest survive' and all that, and Light Gaia just stood for everyone getting a chance to live their life, innovation, all that.

The White Dragon posted:

Whoa, wait, what? Terranigma had a post-credits epilogue? I thought it was just "credits and you're a bird" and then a THE END title card.

It was just a 2-second scene after THE END. Elle's inside her house in Storkholm and suddenly there's a knock on the door. It ends with her opening the door, IIRC.

And yeah they also poorly explained the magic system - it seemed like the purchase was permanent, the way they explained it; magirocks for rings, and the rings are one-use, so that blows. Not only that, but it's possible to play the game normally and just like, never go into a magic shop once. Not in the tutorial or anything.

fronz fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Apr 14, 2013

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

Why would Light Gaia seal the world inside the underworld then? Since that's Dark Gaia's domain. If what you say is the case, I wonder if Light Gaia had any sort of long term solution at all, since we hear so little from him over the course of the game.

I kind of wonder if some aspects of the story were muddled in translation or if they are just intentionally vague in the first place.


Been a while since I played it so I don't have solid answers to these questions but I feel like maybe Light Gaia had only that choice? I mean the two of them are like destined to repeat the same conflict forever, so one having the ability to completely triumph over the other is kinda... not thematically OK

And Nate you're just jealous of the deep themes and story of Terranigma :colbert: But by that metric Soul Blazer: still the best

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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Soul Blazer is the best of all video games in which you can do that.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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I have a curious medical anomaly where black and white and grey are indistinguishable for me and thus I can read through spoiler boxes. you've ruined the game for me, gulagdolls!!!!!

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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I use text-to-speech to read and participate in forums

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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I think you mean Crawd, but ok

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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FFXHD is apparently going to be the international version so it's probably best to just wait it out.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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Being a dragon honestly should not be something you try to sell people on Divinity II with because it's just not fun. The aerial combat was just boring and poorly made. Everything else about the game ruled, so it's unfortunate that one of the big plot points was so unfun

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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I think FF4 is garbage, frankly. I think most of the appeal is nostalgia.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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it's ok. is broken over its knee pretty quickly and easily if that's your thing

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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Rule of thumb: if Syrg is playing it you don't want to

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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says the guy who likes earthbound, third worst game of all time.

e: The ActRaiser sequel was really weird because they somehow completely misunderstood which half of that game people actually liked.

fronz fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Jun 17, 2013

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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Syrg Sapphire posted:

He's being GulagDolls again, nothing de-canons it.

I also wonder how the hell you could consider XS3 worse than 2 unless oh my god you were playing entirely for the story weren't you

edit: but seriously, HaKox existing means XS3 is categorically the best in series

It's hard to classify the worst game in the set when you're talking about xeno(gears/saga). They're all pretty awful.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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Super Ninja Fish posted:

Back on page 77 about FF4.


How often did you run from battles in FF4? The reason the battle frequency never bothered me, unlike let's say FF9 where I found the encounter rate to be game ruining brutal, is because there's always a 100% success rate in running. And you run instantly. It's like it never happened. If you don't want to fight battles you don't have to. I never liked the enemies in the Tower of Zot, so I run from every 4 out of 5 battles each time I'm in that area. That's the way I've played it since I first played the game in 1991.

It's too bad that you quit before getting to the underground portion of the game.

I really can't imagine how you could tolerate FF9 if you found FF4's encounter rate annoying and didn't like FF4's setting. I definitely think you'd prefer 6 or 7 way over FF9 based on this post.

I loving hate FF4 and love FF9. FF4 has a boring setting, one-note characters, nothing going for the battle system, etc. I honestly think people only like it because of nostalgia.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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Super Ninja Fish posted:

I replay FF4 often. I'd have to be paid to replay FF9.

Please seek help

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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I still don't know why I like BoF2 so much. It's pretty much an objectively awful game with a nowadays-cliche'd plot, but I find the game to be fun as hell somehow.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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Genpei Turtle posted:

I like BoF2 a lot too. The only thing that's bad about it is its ridiculously high encounter rate, but other than that it's a pretty solid RPG. Well, aside from the "if you don't ever use Sten you'll be hosed later on" part. That never even occurred to me as being a potential problem though until I read about it here--the idea of not using all the characters you're given in an RPG and trying to keep them all relatively balanced in power (even if they suck) goes so hard against my gamer's OCD that the concept was utterly alien to me at the time.

Well, there's also that half of the game is a fetch quest with absolutely no progression until more than halfway in. And then after that fetch quest is a series of lesser fetch quests. That's kind of bad. (And not using Sten isn't too bad - there's a perfect area to grind there, because they loving knew you'd screw yourself like this)

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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Oath in Felghana is the one I started with, and probably the best to get into the series with.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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GulagDolls posted:


e: you should actually feed him the slow fish or you'll miss one of the best scenes in the game

yeah do this. it's a very good scene and the fast fish scene is awful and dumb

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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I seriously can't imagine Tomato and anyone he worked with on the patch would be pleased about this if they heard either, though. Even above and beyond the fact that they're insistent that you pay Itoi/Nintendo money for the game, this is somebody else profiting off of their work.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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That's definitely how VP1 worked, so I'd expect VP2 to be similar.

e: You could totally savestate in VP1 but doing it to the exclusion of hard saving would lead the game to crashing unavoidably.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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GulagDolls posted:

I don't know why anyone would like persona 3 or 4.

Because they are awful, GulagDolls-kun.

fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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BadAstronaut posted:

This side scrolling nature of Valyire Profile Lenneth is something to get used to. I don't love it right out of the box.

I've watched the prologue, done the intro bit, been to the restaurant with that princess bitch, and after walking out the house into town I have gently caress all idea of what I am supposed to do or where I am meant to go. Also I can't seem to initiate dialogue, and my box/manual are at home so I can't look it up until tonight. Anyone got a clue for someone stuck about 4 minutes into the game?

If I remember right, you just need to go somewhere - anywhere - and then go back home.

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fronz
Apr 7, 2009



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This is the only time you'll ever have to do something like that. This sequence is unique in the game.

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