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Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
Tale games, huh? The only game of the series I can stand is the one where you can choose a female protagonist and give her a costume to make her look like a female Daos.

Because gently caress those anime boys, I've got an overdose during the 90s and now I can't stand looking at them anymore. :colbert:

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Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Nakar posted:

One of the better parts of Xillia's double-protagonist structure (which is otherwise pretty worthless) is that each protagonist sees themselves as ultra cool but the other protagonist sees them as kind of a stupid dork. Like Jude's super Matrix dodging in his own route that to Milla is just him accidentally falling down, or pretty much every cool Milla thing coming across as retarded and self-destructive from Jude's POV.

Also Xillia 2 has to earn some points for Ludger's assorted insensitive or intentionally dickish response options. Which was also by far the best feature introduced in Final Fantasy XIII-2. And Dragon Age 2. And the best part of playing Persona 3 with a code to make Social Links go up no matter what rear end in a top hat thing you say. Basically more games need to let you default to "JC Denton" as your character's personality type.

Yeah, Xillia is really good at this. On Lord Maxwell's route it always looks like Jyde is just this lovable dorky student, you would never know he is supposed to be the other protagonist if he weren't a choice at the beginning.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
Recently I started playing Skyrim again after a several months hiatus and boy does the game hate me now for not plaing it. First I get ambushed by two of those huge polarbears and have to reload six times until I finally get lucky and beat them both, then just a bit later a giant ice spider blocks my way. Again I die several times until I get lucky and push through. Now the dungeon I'm exploring has undead with superpowers instead of the normal undead I can dispatch with ease. Cue being bathed in magic fire and ice several times while trying to wack those guys. Holy poo poo!

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Jack B Nimble posted:

I'm badly out of the loop when it comes to JRPGS and have zero ability to judge the quality of anything on steam; everything I look at seems either made in RPG maker, or borders on porn, or touts its super complicated combat system.

My background with JRpgs is most of the Final Fantasy games up to 7 and super mario RPG. I'd call these traditional JRPGS and while they might not be simple I can under the combat mechanics without having to absorb new and complicated systems, something that's killed my interested in Persona 3 and 4. I'm into their modern setting and slice of life aesthetics but the combat mechanics ruin it for me. I don't enjoy having to collect persona, or fuss out ways to fuse new persona or even manage daily schedule. I suppose I want something simpler? Or more traditional? If you kept everything in Persona the same but changed the battle/dungeon mechanics to something from the snes I'd never look back.

Is there a good/what is the best "traditional" JRPG on steam/PC with a modern setting? Or even without limiting the setting?

As a side question, as someone from the outside looking in I'd call the last few Final Fantasy games just way off the deep end,way too many cutscenes and stories that act like complicated and obfuscated is the end goal, but this new one looks cool, it's like a road trip? I know it's a hell of a subjective question but is this new one more...grounded?

Tales of Xillia is pretty good. The combat is a real-time slugfest. Just mash buttons to win. Easier is pretty much impossible. Also avoid taking Jyde as the protagonist. Taking him will roughly cut your fun in half. That silly little goober.

Edit:

Oh wait, you wanted Steam/PC JRPGs, right? Whoops, my bad!

Libluini fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Apr 4, 2015

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Neddy Seagoon posted:

This is terrible advice. A lot of Milla's story presumes you already did Jude's route.

I'm playing with Lord Maxwell and I really don't get this feeling. Instead I get the feeling Jyde is practically just hanging around as an extra. (Could of course mean the devs were just really good in making both routes feel like the true one. :shrug:)

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
After skimming that article about Star Ocean V I'm now convinced this will crash and burn hideously.

Seriously, there is no other possibility. Star Ocean had a good sequel and a passable third part, the rest is just trash. Without the interesting combat systems, this series wouldn't even exist. But if part V comes out and is actually successful, I'll eat a :toxx: and make a Let's Play out of the horrible German translation of Star Ocean: The Second Story.

But let's stop joking, this won't happen. Star Ocean is dead.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

ACES CURE PLANES posted:

I'm trying to think, have there really been any sci-fi RPGs that took place during a straight-up 'golden age of humanity', so to speak? As in, no aliens, just human society evolved and developed to the logical extreme. Xenosaga is the only one I can think of, and I guess there's the opening video of Star Ocean 3 that kinda teases it but that's all I can think of.

It really seems like it'd have some great visuals and make an amazing setting for a game.

There's Infinite Space for the DS. It has aliens, but 99,9% of the game deals with humans and human society.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Genpei Turtle posted:

That's...an interesting tack to take I guess.

Then again, from what I've picked up from this thread seems to suggest that Star Ocean is an entirely different beast nowadays from what I remember. My sole exposure to the series was the first game, which I played on my host family's Super Famicom in Japan back in 1996. It was a fairly generic, if fun, fantasy RPG with some sci-fi elements. But what I hear now is things about spaceships and anime and pedophilia and catgirls. Though I guess the first Star Ocean had catgirls too, as the one thing that stood out to me is that they made the cast Felpurrs, the cat-person race that they straight-up stole from Wizardry.

My experience was mostly the second one. After almost finishing the Second Story, going back to the first one was boring and the third one, while fun to play, got on my nerves pretty drat fast. The fourth one hit all the wrong notes with me so I didn't even bother trying it.

Man, now I'm secretly wishing SOV actually turns out to be good, just so I have a reason to play the original Star Ocean 2 again. The original on my PS1 had so many crashes at the end I just couldn't finish it properly. Nowadays I could just put the CDs in my PC and play with an emulator + savestates, so it would be theoretically possible to finally end this. But the German translation is so bad I still wouldn't touch this poo poo again without a very good reason.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Tae posted:

The character art is just...confusing. It's honestly kinda scary.

The green-haired witch looks interesting, but the rest is so cliché it physically hurts.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

GulagDolls posted:

they had personality, once. tri-ace's 3-d modeling team erased that. there is virtually no difference between fedal camus and fayt leingod

I don't know, they make me save money by making me not want to buy the game, I can't fault them for that

TARDISman posted:

So I think I'm finally going to play Star Ocean 2. Should I have Claude or Rena as the main character or does it not matter that much?

Rena. It makes the game feel more natural. I tried playing with Claude as the main character once and that was enough. Then I decided he should be relegated to number two instead of hogging the main character slot and started fresh with the girl.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Zereth posted:

Oh right she "escapes" but accomplishes nothing by it, yeah. That's almost worse than not escaping at all.

On the contrary, since in her path Claude is still at level 1 when meeting the boss, Rena gets to punch her captor to death, while Claude just feebly keels over dead.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
Would Landstalker count as RPG? Today I think that would be pretty obscure. I also remember Phantasy Star IV and Secret of Evermore, but those two games may have been obscure only for me.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Million Ghosts posted:

If I wanted good balance and straigtforward gameplay I wouldn't have asked for dubious snes games as it is.

Now I'm curious. Why only SNES-games? The Mega Drive (sorry Genesis for the other side of the pond) had some fine RGPs, too. And as Sega's ads were always telling us, the Sega Mega Drive was a 16bit-machine.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Million Ghosts posted:

Yeah IV is where they become bearble as more than novelty.

Eh, I got farther into the first three Phantasy Star games then the first three Final Fantasy games. (I think I have my party still stuck in some kind of futuristic factory in PSIII.)

And I still fondly remember Landstalker. Even though the isometric perspective hosed child-me royally over.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Codiekitty posted:

In an admittedly terrible defense of Phantasy Star III, it's worst crime is being incredibly boring rather than insulting. But also worth noting is its stupid ending... well, three of the four endings, which all end with...

The spaceship you're on reaching Earth, suggesting the reason humans look like Parmanians is that they're descended from the survivors of Parma being destroyed in Phantasy Star II.

Except in Phantasy Star II's ending...

It's revealed Earth had been destroyed, and the Mother Brain computer was built by refugees who blundered into the Algol system.

Oops.

(No, I did not play through Phantasy Star III four times. I finished the game with Amon... or maybe his name was Adan? It was the guy with the twin sister. Then looked up the other four online, and thank gently caress I did)

I don't know, those endings with time travel involved were kind of sweet in a weird way: Ancient colonists coming back to the planet they came from. I think the canon-ending may be the one where the ship reaches a ruined, dead Earth.

Edit:

Also your first spoiler is totally wrong, just as a head's up. :v:

Libluini fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Apr 20, 2015

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Delsaber posted:

I think we're supposed to call it 20XX.

Better not, or next thing we know, some guy named Dr. Wily starts terrorizing the world with evil robots.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

FirstAidKite posted:

This looks like a good RPG

http://store.steampowered.com/app/342090/




Very good and interesting and well done and



This looks so bizarre I think I'll try it

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Paperhouse posted:

I'm gonna play Tales of Xillia - does it matter who I pick to play as? I don't really want to go through it twice

Play as Milla, Jyde is a tool.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Endorph posted:

Grandia 2 is good. I'm also glad they're using the Dreamcast version instead of one of the completely hosed ports.

I remember my PC-version having a number of infuriating bugs, but what was wrong with the PS2-port? I forgot.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Gamma Nerd posted:

You are correct

That game frustrates the hell out of me. The combat system itself is fun, and I like the detail put into everything up to the NPC dialogue, but the difficulty curve is super easy to snap in half and the story is so unremarkable that I don't know why they included cutscenes at all.

That's kind of a thing with Grandia. Parts I and II also had good combat systems, but rather bland stories with no surprises. Grandia is a series where you fight monsters while enyoing the pretty graphics, while also trying your hardest not to roll your eyes at every cut scene. Grandia II is the best part of the series, since the protagonist is incredibly sarcastic, which fits my own reaction to a Grandia-storyline perfectly.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Mr. Fortitude posted:

I dunno, I find the stories of Grandia 1 and 2 to be pretty charming. Cliche yes, but nostalgic. Especially 1, which captures the sense of adventure JRPGs had back in the 16 bit days that are lacking in todays JRPGs. 3's story was pretty bad even by those standards though.

Charming and bland are not really mutually exclusive. Clichés can be good. It's just normally you don't go and play a Grandia-game for it's story.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
Oh, what the hell, here is my list:

1. Star Ocean 2nd Story
2. Breath of Fire 2
3. Baldurs Gate I + II
4. Secret of Mana
5. Breath of Fire 3
6. Mystic Quest (Had another name outside of Europe, I think? It's SoM 0, basically.)
7. Skyrim
8. Final Fantasy IX
9. Atelier Ayesha
10. Etrian Odyssey III (The music is what catapults the game from my top 20 up to here.)

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
I completely forgot about Phantasy Star IV, that would have been my number ten if not for the music, which is good for the Megadrive, but not good enough to drag it over my other favourites. I guess if we'd be doing a top 20, Phantasy Star IV would be my eleven.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

The White Dragon posted:

Secret of Mana is fun, but playing it today, there's a lot that's wrong with it. Even discounting the cumbersome way they implemented magic that worked against the multiplayer side of the game and all the mechanical weirdness, the story feels like it's in super fast-forward mode to fit the constraints of the cartridge. It's a beautiful game, but it's one of those "amazing in retrospective nostalgia, good but has a lot of weirdness in a bad way if you play it now" games.


It was Secret of Mana except your casting power was limited by your spending power since you had to buy magic ingredients. Your good (read: cheap) spells would get outdated because you wouldn't be able to buy key ingredients in certain areas, but the new magic you'd learn in later areas was crazy expensive (Medieval fireball? It costs 1,250 gold for five casts, which is only a couple hundred GP cheaper than the best armor for that entire part of the game) and eventually you'd just end up using the javelin. Or the dog :smugdog:

The trick in Secret of Evermore was in knowing which spells were good and which not. Also you could cut down massively in cost by just making notes of where to find expensive incredients.

There was this spell where a giant fist came down to crush people. For some reason most bosses had a weakness to it, so as soon as you reached lv. 5, you were practically set. And at the end of the game you had used that spell so much you probably had it maxed out.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

The White Dragon posted:

Exactly, Crush is what I had in mind. It's an absolutely fantastic spell... and then suddenly you find yourself without it because there's no way to buy more Limestone until Omnitopia :(

Of course, the magic system's weirdness/crappiness goes beyond that. Flash, the very first spell you get, would take like two or three hours of grinding just to get 30 casts of it when you first learn it. Hardball is much more economical and you get that shortly thereafter, but you gotta walk a long way to get all the ingredients for it until you're in Antiqua.

Uh, am I the only one who simply walked back to buy more? It's not as if SoE has a gigantic map, going back to another age just takes a couple minutes, tops. You can find Limestone in Ebon Keep and Ivor Tower, by the way. Farm that poo poo.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Nakar posted:

You can walk back but you can't return to regions until you can fly.

And I don't think gatherable ingredients respawn, so you can maybe find some Limestone but you can't buy it. You can probably get through with 99 Crush casts if you aren't spamming them every screen though, and then you can just fly back to Blimp's.

Strange, I remember running through Gothica and smashing everything with my giant fists, without ever running out.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

I love that music! You fucker, now I have to listen to it set on repeat for an hour! :mad:

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Oh god, that gives me flashbacks back to Breath of Fire III and that stupid fish sandwich thing you're supposed to make in a mini-game. The German translator apparently had never heard of whatever Japanese crap that was supposed to be, either. Cue me fumbling around for hours, trying to find a way to make that rice-fish thing the correct way.

I was so mad after I accidentally found out how easy the mini-game was. Turns out my ignorance of Japanese food and a lovely German translation just threw me off by a wide margin. :argh:

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Levantine posted:

It's sushi. You are making Sushi in BoF3.

I know. Today.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Genpei Turtle posted:

If that's the scene I'm thinking of, that was in the Japanese original. The dolphin(?) dipped into a thick Osaka Kansai dialect when using its "bad" voice and it gave you the option (or displayed subtitles of, I forget) dialogue in "standard" Japanese.

Never played a localized version, but didn't BOF3 have a lot of weirdness in its translation that made it objectively worse? I remember a lot of people complaining about the desert for example that while dead simple originally, got made much harder due to a translation error.

The dolphin-scene in German used a heavy Saxon accent for this.

Also the translation was good enough to perfectly translate the desert gently caress-up into German. I never finished the original PSX-version because of this. I was so long in that damned desert I started dreaming about wandering the desert. :shepface:

ImpAtom posted:

Infinite Space isn't a Platinum game. Like not because it isn't character action but because it was primarily developed by Nude Maker.


Anyone who calls the game hard never abused the broke-rear end Fighter mechanic.

To be fair, who would go into battle without a single carrier in their fleet? My final fleet was something like 3 battleships, 1 command ship with some fighters, 1 dedicated carrier with a shitload of fighters. Then you just have to dance the dance of space combat.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Levantine posted:

Star Ocean should just be Anime JRPG Mass Effect why is that so hard. Give me a spaceship and planets to explore you fucks.

One can hope, getting stuck on generic fantasy planets was always the worst part of the series.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Davincie posted:

one crazy thing in that star ocean 5 interview is that they apparently outsourced the story for star ocean 4 to other companies since they wanted a more western one which must be the worst idea for an rpg ever

:stare: If they thought Star Ocean 4 had a "western" story those guys must have been loving delusional. 4 was even more stereotypically JRPG then 3 for god's sake.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
Apparently a new Tales-game called "Tales of Berseria" is coming.

And it comes with female protagonist Velvet, which makes it instantly 10x better then all those other JRPGs with their anime-pretty-boy-protagonists. :colbert:

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

TheRam posted:

Hey I started replaying Might and Magic 7 and am making awkward videos to just go through the game to entice anyone who might want to play or at least let people know how badass it was if they don't intend to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy3w8cpm8-E

Don't forget to show off the Flying + Meteor trick! Playing Fantasy B52 was one of the most fun things I ever did in a RPG.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

exquisite tea posted:

I've always liked pure turn-based or pure real-time combat better than any hybrid ATB system. FFX was one of my favorite Final Fantasies because you knew what was coming, and so wouldn't be afraid to use all but the most spammy abilities.

As long as you can pause real-time or hybrid combats, I take everything. Still, pure turn-based combat can be annoying, sometimes. When playing Might and Magic X I keep missing the free movement of MM7, for example.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

exquisite tea posted:

Yeah, it seems like all modern space sim games just miss the mark for me. Just give me a little ship to upgrade, aliens to talk to, and a vast galaxy to explore without all the spreadsheet bullshit and boring-rear end resource management. Be chill, no need for a thousand laser guns.

Elite: Dangerous is like that. No need to fight, you can just take your unarmed explorer out to see the galaxy. Out there you'll only see other people if you visit some of the major sightseeing-sights, like the Great Annihilator or the Crab Nebula.

If you want aliens, you'll have to wait a couple months, though. They're promised as "they are coming" for half an eternity by now, but still nothing. :sigh:

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

al-azad posted:

I haven't gotten into Dangerous but I'm interested to see where they go with aliens. Especially considering canonically there's a race of horny cat people that are turned on by human sweat.

The only alien race confirmed are the insectoid Thargoids, though. They and their sweet-rear end crystalline ships blasting us into small, irregular formed pieces of space dust. :v:

David Braben: "They're coming."

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Clarste posted:

Why are people selling things in RPGs? Breath of Fire 3 taught me to never sell anything for any reason, unless the description specifically says "this item has no purpose other than to be sold." And even then, it's a calculated risk.

To get rich? :v:

Also, I like my inventory clean and empty. :colbert:

On FF9: It's the only Final Fantasy game I ever actually finished, which should tell you how good it is. (It's great!) And synthesis is easy, even with my habit of selling everything I don't need immediately, I had no trouble getting everything I want.

Too bad it's so sloooooow. Don't ever play the game without the combat speed set as high as possible.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Nakar posted:

I like your opinions, but I lack the courage to join you in holding them.

Come on, Mystic Quest was a fun game and the Secret of Mana-series growing out of it was the best.

Mystic Quest Legend, on the other hand, bored me to tears.

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Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Nakar posted:

Oh I love Mystic Quest, but "the best Final Fantasy" is a tall order.

Well, technically it's not part of the Final Fantasy series, even though it went under the name "Final Fantasy Adventure" on the other side of the Atlantic. Recently I replayed Mystic Quest on my old Game Boy Color again and I was surprised how I breezed through the game in less then 8 hours. Apparently I played the game so often as a child everything went directly to muscle memory.

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