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Liesmith
Jan 29, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post

TurnipFritter posted:

Agreed. That group of unnamed, unidentified journalists sure are a bunch of hacks.

Also, you should really read the next paragraph after he says that.

Name one games journalist that isn't a hack.

Also goddamn, it's incredible how many people in this thread are actually, unironically arguing that it's totally reasonable for reporters not to know things about what they are reporting on. Holy poo poo. It's not impossible to have standards for your reporters, and it's a disgrace when you don't, no matter what you are writing about. I don't expect the New York Times or Vanity Fair here, just some basic understanding of the industry in which you specialize. If you write up an RPG for the first time, maybe go on a forum and ask what the most important RPGs are! And since Larian has made no secret of the fact that they were inspired by Ultima, maybe look into that before you turn up at their studio. "Oh, maybe they didn't know!" - a goddamn idiot. A diligent reporter could have easily found out by reading a couple of interviews with this dude beforehand. You know, if they were capable of even the most simplistic of google-driven research. How are you supposed to ask useful questions if you don't do even the most basic research?

Oh wait these people regurgitate press releases for a living, and you people defend them for it because apparently doing more would be too hard or something. Jesus Christ.

pw pw pw posted:

Quick- without comparing video games to another form of media, explain how playing ultima makes any shred of difference to a review of skyrim.

Look. Look how dumb you are. Of all the games you could have picked you picked the single dumbest choice. I hope that you suddenly and inexplicably get sucked into space while walking out of a Wal-Mart.

pw pw pw posted:

If only there were thousands of other rpg's you might be well-equipped to compare a new title to. It sure sucks for rpg fans that the genre died with ultima 13 years ago.

The genre was born with Ultima you stupid gently caress.

Liesmith fucked around with this message at 13:47 on May 18, 2012

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Liesmith
Jan 29, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post
It's cool how smug that guy is. "Ha, so you're saying that knowing about ultima will automatically make bad writing good? That's stupid. Checkmate, bitch."

You're right, moron quote guy. What you suggest with your incredible misunderstanding of logic is stupid. Knowing about Ultima, or about the history of the genre, industry, or anything else, will not automatically raise the minimum standard of writing. Educated people who cannot communicate their ideas in print will still fail, although at least they have a chance to fail spectacularly.

What knowing your history (by the way the suggestion that you can't know history all the way back to the 1980s is almost too bizarre to even think about) will do is raise the maximum standard of writing. People who are good writers with an intuitive understanding of games but who don't know what they are talking about will suddenly be triple threat writers who have a chace at actual insight. The best of journalistic writers will actually have the opportunity to rise above the press release regurgitators. You dumb motherfucker.

TiltedAtWindmills posted:

Actually, people like Amethyst who throw pathetic temper tantrums when people don't agree with them are why we can't have intelligent discussions about games.

The only thing pathetic here is that when it is revealed that games journalists are just ignorant kids with no pride in their work who function as another arm of the Activision/EA/Whoever PR machine, you get a bunch of goons who say "Good, I didn't want to get actual information from trustworthy sources. I sure love predigested food!"

Liesmith fucked around with this message at 14:48 on May 18, 2012

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