WindyMan posted:

All things considered, DNN is doing great when you realize they're trying to do all of this on a shoestring donation budget. DNN isn't happy with the problems and is looking on a way to improve on things for next season.

Dominion posted:

The paid streaming for Westerns was amazingly high quality. The free version was good and very watchable, but the paid one was high enough quality that we streamed it to our HDTV and it was indistinguishable from real TV. Could read names on jerseys and stuff, which I usually can't do when I watch DNN/Justin.tv streams.

WindyMan posted:

Dominion posted:

Yeah, I'm sure that both those rules (no-start and taking a knee) will get changed in the next few months at the latest. I don't have a problem with them but a lot of people do.

It's fine to dislike those rules, but that's not all that goes into Slow Derby. A bunch of people literally do not like any playstyle that involves a slower pack, or manipulating the speed and movement of that pack, or god forbid sometimes skating clockwise. They want girls just skating fast and turning left, and to me THAT'S the boring style. You can't see any real tactics going on because everything is going to fast, and it's just a race. It's the old Runaway Pussy strategy, which they made up the destroying the pack penalty specifically to eliminate.

WindyMan posted:

I say this in jest. They're hoping for a holdover crowd from the lacrosse game, which has a regular attendance of over 9,000. It'll be cool, regardless.

Redfont posted:

EDIT: Maybe I'm just unclear on the exact specifics, but it looks like here in the beginning there's a lot of overlooked back-blocking.

WindyMan posted:

This is the problem. The techniques that are effective are also the techniques that are bad for roller derby's entertainment value. I appreciate smart derby strategies as much as the next guy, but not when they are counter-intuitive to how sports are supposed to work.

Dominion posted:

Another tiny positive side effect of the no-minors that I noticed is that it eliminates the need to have a big whiteboard and someone using it in the inside track, which frees up a lot of space for refs to move around in there.

Spookydonut posted:

YIf the skaters want to play like this though, I say we let them. Maybe once their bouts start losing attendance they might change their mind. But if skaters are playing the game the way they want and still making enough money to support it why change things?

Dominion posted:

That World Cup is going to be a Dream-Team level massacre, but it would be really interesting to see those skaters working together. Apparently on the first day they're going to split the team in half and play each other, which is about as close to a WFTDA Pro Bowl as we are likely to see anytime soon.

Aericina posted:

Totally Twisted - my team is heading your way on the 10th. I won't be in attendance, so do you know of any DNN action happening?

Dominion posted:

Dutchland forfeiting to Gotham is a loving travesty.

Dominion posted:

Dolly Rocket just got 4 majors at once and got ejected before the half.

Welp.

Jiminy Krimpet posted:

I guess calling it the "Dutchland Rule" should be penalty enough.

Also, regarding the allowance of injury forfeits instead of strategery forfeits, this week's NFL divesmanship was the first thing I thought of. Cynical, I guess, but that's why we're having this discussion in the first place.

WindyMan posted:

Until the front of the pack is more advantageous than the rear of the pack, this is only going to get worse.

Mr. Powers posted:

NHRD just bought a used SkateCourt to put down on the world's most slippery floor. Maybe people will want to come play against us now.

WindyMan posted:

By the way, you folks might be interested in this:

http://prorollerderby.com/

Jan posted:

What, no one is following the world cup?

downtimejesus posted:

Roc City NSOs are baller as poo poo and its totally unreal.

Spookydonut posted:

They're mind readers when it comes to relaying penalties and scoring, their clocks are always accurate down to the picosecond.

downtimejesus posted:

Renting, but we just got in there in November.
http://cnyrollerderby.blogspot.com/2012/02/fire-destroys-cnyrds-home.html

annachromatic posted:

I've just read this entire thread in order to get more educated about roller derby. I've developed an interest in it and have been doing a lot of research to see if it's something I'd like to get involved in. So far, so good.

Though I can't start any sort of commitment until I move in a few months, the thing I'm most nervous about while reading about it is, in fact, the time commitment. I'm wondering how everyone balances derby (which appears to be an excitedly consuming hobby) with the rest of their lives, if they play?

the yeti posted:

I can't help but think that'd be almost the worst thing that could happen (monetizing it, that is)

WindyMan posted:

Outside money coming in is indeed inevitable. But it's important that that money is coming from people who want to see the sport grow properly and stay legit all the way up to the pro ranks or national television, not turn the game into another TV ratings cash grab like with Rollerjam.

scorpiobean posted:

I'm not sure about jammer on jammer, but it doesn't seem advantageous for a jammer to go backwards just to force the other backwards. I don't know what the situation was for Bay Area/Rat City.

HPL posted:

I hate to say it, but they're probably not going to change it because the top teams are profiting hugely from it.

echopapa posted:

WFTDA has confirmed that the minor penalty is dead.

I think this will slow down the game even more. If a "minor" track cut results in a trip to the box, blockers will have more incentive to come to a stop and/or run backwards after knocking someone out of bounds.