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Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE


Heners_UK posted:

Ok I'm not... But who do I get my fibre internet from?

Right now your only option in Canada is Bell or Telus. The government is slacking when it comes to allowing 3rd party access on the last mile fiber so you won't find a 3rd party right now with anything reasonable for pricing.

If you're in a major city and live in a condo, there are a few isp's out there that can deliver you fiber like connections via wireless to the building, or some actually have fiber directly to the condo.

3rd party resellers are all over the place, go to teksavvy, or start, or you can go super local and find something just in your region, but your quality may vary.


slidebite posted:

Dude, your heart is in the right place but that's far from realistic for tons of us.

I just want my ISP to be fast, reliable and a reasonable price. If an indie could do that where I live I'd be happy to sign up, but they aren't.

I get that for some people it's not possible than to pay for one of the big 3, but typically you could still go with a cable reseller if you have cable to your house. Fast is a relative term. Is cable faster than fiber? No. Is it fast? Yes. Fast enough. I've got something like 300Mb down and 30Mb up. It's fine, everything works. People just like seeing big numbers and bragging to their neighbour that their internet is sooooo fast *watches youtube in 720p*

poo poo man, I still own an ISP and my house has telus fiber and shaw cable and I will never give any money to telus, so fiber sits there on the side of my house, never to be used until I don't have to pay telus directly.

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unknown
Nov 16, 2002
Ain't got no stinking title yet!


infernal machines posted:

I try to use Beanfield wherever I can here in TO, but their footprint is so limited it's not an option for most of my clients. I still put in requests for service at all of our sites though, so who knows, one day they may build out to us.

Beanfield is no longer. Just got bought by Colony Capital (a US based VC firm) for $180mm iirc - same guys who bought Aptum (ex-Cogeco's colo and fiber stuff/ex-peer1). Also about to acquire Zayo.

So they'll just probably amalgamate things together under 1 banner (Aptum?), raise the rates and attempt to sell in a few years.

Edit: https://www.businesswire.com/news/h...nancial-Results

unknown fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Dec 18, 2019

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

the instrument of man's contempt for his fellow man, forever


Ah feck.

They had some incredible pricing for small business and residential services.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg


Nitr0 posted:

I get that for some people it's not possible than to pay for one of the big 3, but typically you could still go with a cable reseller if you have cable to your house. Fast is a relative term. Is cable faster than fiber? No. Is it fast? Yes. Fast enough. I've got something like 300Mb down and 30Mb up. It's fine, everything works. People just like seeing big numbers and bragging to their neighbour that their internet is sooooo fast *watches youtube in 720p*

poo poo man, I still own an ISP and my house has telus fiber and shaw cable and I will never give any money to telus, so fiber sits there on the side of my house, never to be used until I don't have to pay telus directly.
You hate them, I get it, and I certainly don't love them, but when the best "wholesale" cable service from an indy is less than 10% of your speed down, less than 1% up, costs the same monthly but you also have to spring for a modem (or rental) and installation, it's no contest.

I am not going to get 60/6 cable on principal because of the man.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE


You can get a 300 / 20 thru resellers at $50 so I’m not sure what you’re referring to.

It’s not that I “hate them” it’s that the large majority of our government infrastructure money went to them to build our backbone fiber between communities, and now nobody can utilize it without paying huge fees that don’t live in reality.

Just stop giving money to the borg, it’s really that easy. Telecom could be fixed in a matter of months if people gave enough of a poo poo to vote with their wallet. Unfortunately, the majority doesn’t care.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg


Nitr0 posted:

You can get a 300 / 20 thru resellers at $50 so I’m not sure what you’re referring to.
Not where I live you can't.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

Where are you getting over 10 upload for $50 on cable? I'm trapped paying $30-35 for 50/10 ADSL from resellers or $65 promo ($90) to get xxx/30 Cable on a multi service bundle from the cable co. Reseller cable prices are worse than the cable co

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE


Risky Bisquick posted:

Where are you getting over 10 upload for $50 on cable? I'm trapped paying $30-35 for 50/10 ADSL from resellers or $65 promo ($90) to get xxx/30 Cable on a multi service bundle from the cable co. Reseller cable prices are worse than the cable co

Teksavvy, start, Vmedia, distributel, Shaw

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

the instrument of man's contempt for his fellow man, forever


Of all of the companies you listed the only one offering higher than 10Mbit upload for under $50 in Toronto is Distributel, with a promotion. Everyone else looks to be $65 and up for 20Mbit.

It's not bad but you are evidently SOL if for some reason you do need a higher upload.

infernal machines fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Dec 19, 2019

less than three
Aug 9, 2007




Fallen Rib

And Shaw is not an indie by any means. They have revenue of $5.5bn and own Global among 37 other channels and dozens of radio stations.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE


Revenue != profits

The lesser of two evils.

less than three
Aug 9, 2007




Fallen Rib

If Shaw wants to waste money trying to be a media conglomerate, that's on them. They're just one half of our western duopoly like Bell/Rogers.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE


Technically, Shaw sold off their shaw media network to corus who actually owns the propeties now. Shaw still owns something like 300mil of stock, but corus is not controlled by Shaw and it’s a separate company compared to Shaw’s internet tv and wireless business.

I think the point of selling Shaw media was so they had the cash to buy wind and try to be a proper alternative to telus and Rogers in mobility.

Nitr0 fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Dec 19, 2019

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



Soiled Meat

unknown posted:

Beanfield is no longer. Just got bought by Colony Capital (a US based VC firm) for $180mm iirc - same guys who bought Aptum (ex-Cogeco's colo and fiber stuff/ex-peer1). Also about to acquire Zayo.

So they'll just probably amalgamate things together under 1 banner (Aptum?), raise the rates and attempt to sell in a few years.

Edit: https://www.businesswire.com/news/h...nancial-Results
gently caress.

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




I know this is the internet thread but it's also informally the Canada thread but what stores do y'all buy PC parts from these days? I live in Vancouver and used to use NCIX and that exploded. I've seen both Canada Computers and Memory Express around. Is Newegg.ca better these days?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg


I get my parts through either memory express or Amazon. I bought a cell through Newegg and it worked out well enough, if a bit slower than I would have liked.

Memory express seems to be decent enough though.

less than three
Aug 9, 2007




Fallen Rib

I go to Memory Express. Canada Computers website was garbage back when they took over the NCIX locations. Its improved but still lacking in being able to filter to parts you want. Either view all the DDR4 RAM or one specific type, etc.

less than three fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Dec 22, 2019

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE


My last parts came from amazon

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE


Ncix is such an interesting case study. I saw linuses videos of him at the ncix auction and it’s pretty hilarious what everything was going for. I bet you the owners got a nice chunk of change for the liquidation.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE


Nitr0 posted:

Ncix is such an interesting case study. I saw linuses videos of him at the ncix auction and it’s pretty hilarious what everything was going for. I bet you the owners got a nice chunk of change for the liquidation.

Or the Chinese were smuggling money into the country. Who needs casinos

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

"I dont fully understand football contracts but you can just be outright cut if you're shit right? With no penalties? Hockey needs that."

I Am Marc Bergevin IRL


Ca.pcpartpicker.com. Allegiance to one store is folly

Zigmidge
May 12, 2002

Exsqueeze me, why the sour face? I'm here to lemon aid you. Let's juice it.

A local brick and mortar that price matches all of these places. Speak to other humans and build today.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012




I used a combo of Canada Computers and Amazon on my last build.

Canada Computer's price matching has got a lot worse from a few years ago but they will match any Prime shipped Amazon part.

Newegg wanted bonkers shipping on the parts I chose for some reason. Like, $40.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

Gotta nuke something


Newegg Canada seems like it destined for the same fate as NCIX. Just completely lazy and incompetent sales practices, that'll bite them in the rear end sooner or later.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg


FWIW, looks like Memory Express's Boxing Day sale just went live. Just picked up 32GB (2x16) of Corsair Vengeance 3200 for $150, normally $175.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE


$25 does not a Boxing Day sale make

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg


Computer components, especially commodity components, at more than 10% off is a good deal. Same thing is $185 on amazon.

Volguus
Mar 3, 2009


Nitr0 posted:

$25 does not a Boxing Day sale make

I bought a printer 2 months ago. Today, on Canada Computer's boxing day flyer is shows up $20 more than what I paid for it.

less than three
Aug 9, 2007




Fallen Rib

Bell has a new CEO. Unsurprisingly, he says that low wireless prices would be Really Bad for Canada.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/race-fo...bibic-1.1369733

e: poo poo, I meant to post this in the wireless thread

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

It makes me chuckle that all the big ISPs are now touting “downtime schedulers” to let you “unplug”.. pay us for a service then use our feature to not use that service.. genius

James Baud
May 24, 2015

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN


priznat posted:

It makes me chuckle that all the big ISPs are now touting “downtime schedulers” to let you “unplug”.. pay us for a service then use our feature to not use that service.. genius

So my brother once discovered his (then) six or seven year old was waking up in the night and playing Minecraft on the family PC for hours then going back to bed before anyone else woke up because the hard drive was full and the responsible files had timestamps. He'd been doing it for weeks.

Think that's the appeal (also everyone has tablets now).

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

James Baud posted:

So my brother once discovered his (then) six or seven year old was waking up in the night and playing Minecraft on the family PC for hours then going back to bed before anyone else woke up because the hard drive was full and the responsible files had timestamps. He'd been doing it for weeks.

Think that's the appeal (also everyone has tablets now).

That kid has a career in esports!!

Heners_UK
Jun 1, 2002


How was that kid functioning otherwise?

(Also, gently caress I'm old)

Also, my router has had that feature for years. Unused.

odiv
Jan 12, 2003



So everyone's ISP is going to suspending overage charges while we're all working from home and self-quaran--

Ahahhaha.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006




odiv posted:

So everyone's ISP is going to suspending overage charges while we're all working from home and self-quaran--

Ahahhaha.

Wondering how much additional traffic these steaming services will be able to handle.

odiv
Jan 12, 2003



I was joking, but the US seems to be going this way, so maybe there's hope?

AT&T Suspends Broadband Data Caps During Coronavirus Crisis
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...onavirus-crisis

Then again, up here our monopoly is usually exempt from a bunch of other rules the rest of Canada has because business is so hard.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

odiv posted:

So everyone's ISP is going to suspending overage charges while we're all working from home and self-quaran--

Ahahhaha.

The issue isn't data overages it's the networks will likely fail because they don't have the capacity. The big banks don't have capacity for full WFH either

less than three
Aug 9, 2007




Fallen Rib

I think the ISPs have the capacity, Netflix is far worse. (Unless everyone is watching Netflix while WFH lol)

It'll be a capacity issue on the work side. I know for a fact we don't have enough VPN licenses to have a large chunk of people WFH let alone everyone.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

My job does not have the capacity at a guess, I think we will have rotating WFH / Office days for different teams

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bigmandan
Sep 11, 2001

lol internet

College Slice

Depending on the ISP, Netflix traffic may not be an issue if there is a caching server present. Where I work, the Netflix caching server reduce our transit traffic significantly from 6-8 Gbps peaks to 1-2 Gbps peaks. The hit rate to the caching server is pretty high. We have Google and Akamai CDN servers in our POP as well but they are kind of hit and miss.

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