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zergstain
Dec 15, 2005



EoRaptor posted:

I upgrading to 3Gbs ( it was cheaper than staying at 1Gbs) and ebayed some x540ís from china to take advantage of it.

I absolutely know people who have home labs capable of Ďusingí 8gbs, though I doubt it would have any meaning outside a speed test.

Pretty sure the target market is rich people with big families who have a 2 idevices, a tv, and a computer/laptop for every person in the house. They donít need it, but you can easily get them to buy it.

Especially if their home network is all Wi-Fi. Though I'm not entirely sure how much bandwidth a Wi-Fi 6 router can put out with MU-MIMO and poo poo, even if a single device's link speed might be over 1Gbps. But true, I realize a few people will have 10-GigE equipment in their homes, but I'm guessing the vast majority using this won't.

teethgrinder posted:

Lol ... I've always gotten ~250 Mbps down on TekSavvy Cable, when I pay for a 100 plan. (Sustained, not burst.) But my upload has been consistently 10.0 Mbps for six years or so. It's magically 30 now :iiam:

That's been that way for me for several years. I have 75/10, speed test says 204/31.75. The 30 Gb upload is new though. Used to have 100, but dropped down to save money. Speed hardly changed. Also just noticed that their current 100/10 package costs the same as our grandfathered 75/10. I don't know if we should switch since best case scenario the only change is the name of the package.

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EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003





zergstain posted:

Especially if their home network is all Wi-Fi. Though I'm not entirely sure how much bandwidth a Wi-Fi 6 router can put out with MU-MIMO and poo poo, even if a single device's link speed might be over 1Gbps. But true, I realize a few people will have 10-GigE equipment in their homes, but I'm guessing the vast majority using this won't.

If you get 3Gbs or 8Gbs, Bell is going to insist you use their 'Gigahub', which has pretty poor WiFi performance. Unlike earlier, both these speed tiers rely on xgpon, and there is no transplantable SFP module if you want to user another device. PPPoE pass-through works, but you have to ask Bell specifically to enable it.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002



zergstain posted:

That's been that way for me for several years. I have 75/10, speed test says 204/31.75. The 30 Gb upload is new though. Used to have 100, but dropped down to save money. Speed hardly changed. Also just noticed that their current 100/10 package costs the same as our grandfathered 75/10. I don't know if we should switch since best case scenario the only change is the name of the package.
I figure I'm just not going to do anything that risks screwing it up.

Streamed a game with friends tonight and had zero-latency, essentially confirming my upload is vastly better than it ever has been.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

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EoRaptor posted:

If you get 3Gbs or 8Gbs, Bell is going to insist you use their 'Gigahub', which has pretty poor WiFi performance. Unlike earlier, both these speed tiers rely on xgpon, and there is no transplantable SFP module if you want to user another device. PPPoE pass-through works, but you have to ask Bell specifically to enable it.

Yeah, I looked at it and it's like $900 in new equipment to make the 3GB service worth using (for me), so I'm just going to stick with 1.5/940 for now.

Having the 940 up has actually been incredibly useful for work, I can't really justify a need to go to 3Gbit though.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003





infernal machines posted:

Yeah, I looked at it and it's like $900 in new equipment to make the 3GB service worth using (for me), so I'm just going to stick with 1.5/940 for now.

Having the 940 up has actually been incredibly useful for work, I can't really justify a need to go to 3Gbit though.

1gbit was 120/month for me, but upgrading to 3gbit dropped that to 70 a month promo.

When that promo ends, Iíll probably jump to 8gbit if there is a cheaper promotion. The prices for each tier are pretty close without any discount, so this is going to be the game for a while.

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

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zergstain posted:

That's been that way for me for several years. I have 75/10, speed test says 204/31.75. The 30 Gb upload is new though. Used to have 100, but dropped down to save money. Speed hardly changed. Also just noticed that their current 100/10 package costs the same as our grandfathered 75/10. I don't know if we should switch since best case scenario the only change is the name of the package.
Someone explained it better a while back, but basically if you're getting better than advertised, then don't change anything lol. If you initiate a change in your package, you'll only be able to access whatever the incumbent is selling to the third parties. And that might actually involve an equipment upgrade, depending on what is considered "supported."

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

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zergstain posted:

I'd love to know who has the infrastructure in their home to take advantage of that.
My house is hardwired with 5e throughout every room, so anything over 1gb is pretty much wasted... and to be honest for my needs (and I suspect 99% of everyone) anywhere remotely close to that is overkill and often can't get near that from the website I'm pulling from anyhow. Speed tests definitely show it though.

tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

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slidebite posted:

My house is hardwired with 5e throughout every room, so anything over 1gb is pretty much wasted... and to be honest for my needs (and I suspect 99% of everyone) anywhere remotely close to that is overkill and often can't get near that from the website I'm pulling from anyhow. Speed tests definitely show it though.

Same. When I helped build my house way back in 2003 I went nuts with 5e in every room except the bathroom. I own a little bungalow so replacing the wiring wouldn't be too difficult, just a little too expensive to justify.

TrueChaos
Nov 14, 2006






Going from bell fibe 500 to the 1.5gb package at 25$/month cheaper, hell yeah. I only had to argue with bell retentions for 40 minutes to stop trying to bundle poo poo, I only want internet. And then get them to escalate to someone with some kind of authority to authorize the deal for an existing customer, because the advertised deal was only for new clients.

I have nothing with an ethernet port above 1gbps, but hey, less money than I was paying. Looking forward to another hour or so on the phone in 2 years when the credit drops off to fight for whatever the current offer is.

zergstain
Dec 15, 2005



EoRaptor posted:

If you get 3Gbs or 8Gbs, Bell is going to insist you use their 'Gigahub', which has pretty poor WiFi performance. Unlike earlier, both these speed tiers rely on xgpon, and there is no transplantable SFP module if you want to user another device. PPPoE pass-through works, but you have to ask Bell specifically to enable it.

Too bad the fastest Bell offers where I live is 50/10.

Chris Knight posted:

Someone explained it better a while back, but basically if you're getting better than advertised, then don't change anything lol. If you initiate a change in your package, you'll only be able to access whatever the incumbent is selling to the third parties. And that might actually involve an equipment upgrade, depending on what is considered "supported."

Well, we were getting +200 when we were paying for 100, and kept getting +200 after dropping to 75.

slidebite posted:

My house is hardwired with 5e throughout every room, so anything over 1gb is pretty much wasted... and to be honest for my needs (and I suspect 99% of everyone) anywhere remotely close to that is overkill and often can't get near that from the website I'm pulling from anyhow. Speed tests definitely show it though.

I put Cat 6 in in 2018 or so. Runs are short enough that I'm confident that we could get 10Gig without 6A, but the router and switch would need to be replaced, and every computer would need a new NIC. If we ever got gigabit+ service, it might make more sense to get a switch with 5 or 10Gig uplink port, but is otherwise gigabit. I've noticed the DOCSIS 3.1 modems all seem to have two Ethernet ports, so I assume to get full speed I would need a router that supports link bonding or whatever it's called.

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EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003





tango alpha delta posted:

Same. When I helped build my house way back in 2003 I went nuts with 5e in every room except the bathroom. I own a little bungalow so replacing the wiring wouldn't be too difficult, just a little too expensive to justify.

The speed rating is usually for 100m cable length. If your runs are short enough, you can probably get 10gb out of them if the devices on each end are high quality. The 10gb standard also supports 5gb, and there is a 2.5gb standard that should also work just fine with 5e.

I don't think 5e is going to hold you back much.

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