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I have a client in a weird spot with Beanfield, we were pestering them for years to expand to the client's building since they were "near net" and there's about a dozen tenants in the building, but they never did bring them on to their GPON service. Then they bought out whatever was left of Cogeco data services, which my client was on, so we're now dealing directly with Beanfield anyway, except they still refuse to offer their GPON service in the building. So we're on Beanfield but we're still paying ~$600/mo. for 100Mbit fibre instead of ~$150/mo. for gigabit, because gently caress us, I guess.
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Some days I wonder how much it would cost to set up as an ISP for just the building you're in; whether a house/apartment building/business etc, just to not have to deal with the cartel. Set up a node outside, fiber to the building, and maybe sell any extra capacity to the neighbours, or even do it as a group buy.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:02
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Mister Facetious posted:Some days I wonder how much it would cost to set up as an ISP for just the building you're in; whether a house/apartment building/business etc, just to not have to deal with the cartel. It's in finding a non-cartel provider for 'fiber to the building' where they aren't using it for providing service themselves (dark fiber), or having it built yourself.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:10
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Mister Facetious posted:Some days I wonder how much it would cost to set up as an ISP for just the building you're in; whether a house/apartment building/business etc, just to not have to deal with the cartel. Not very expensive. That's why you see a lot of smaller ISP's focus on MDU first. Lot cheaper to build fiber in a building than outdoors with km between houses.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:12
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less than three posted:It's in finding a non-cartel provider for 'fiber to the building' where they aren't using it for providing service themselves (dark fiber), or having it built yourself. 80GHz PTP with 10Gb/s connections are readily available now. Lots of real easy ways to do MDU deployments.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:13
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Nitr0 posted:Not very expensive. That's why you see a lot of smaller ISP's focus on MDU first. Lot cheaper to build fiber in a building than outdoors with km between houses. Like, this is what I want to see Linus Tech Tips tackle next. They use 10 gigabit in their office, they should just cut out the cartel and set up as their own ISP using as much bandwidth as a private setup can take for themselves. 
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Feb 25, 2021 23:15
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lol LTT is too scatterbrained to be an isp. Remember that an ISP is just a connection back to a local peering exchange. There would be nothing stopping LTT from getting an ASN and dual homing their connection and selling it, then they're technically an isp.. but why? They could lease a wave back to VanIX and get an ASN, put a couple routers in and hey you're an ISP.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:17
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To clarify, I don't mean an ISP as a business to others, just themselves.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:18
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What's the point? You're only an ISP if you're selling to other people, otherwise you're a customer.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:19
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Nitr0 posted:What's the point? You're only an ISP if you're selling to other people, otherwise you're a customer. In layman's terms, what would it take to set up and own one's connection to the greater internet, preferably without paying the big four a recurring fee, if possible.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:23
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You need to figure out a way to get from Point A to Point B. Either through cable, or through wireless.  The only way without paying the big four would be to run your own fibre physically the 50km back to an internet exchange You're never going to be able to avoid leasing on existing providers fibre which is going to be Telus, Rogers, Bell, Shaw. You could do this wirelessly if you can find enough points to setup a POP and backhaul yourself back into town, but spectrum will be extremely scarce to non existent.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:27
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Nitr0 posted:You need to figure out a way to get from Point A to Point B. Either through cable, or through wireless. Oh man, the digging permits alone would kill them. I thought exchanges were more numerous than that.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:30
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Digging is for suckers. Just tape it down with one of those walk-behind gaffer rigs and have an intern re-walk the route every month. Soon you'll have a mighty callus of tape over that cable, impervious to anything.
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Feb 26, 2021 00:47
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shadow puppet of a posted:Digging is for suckers. Just tape it down with one of those walk-behind gaffer rigs and have an intern re-walk the route every month. gently caress it's so easy why didn't I think of this?
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LTT would buy the now defunct project LOON balloons from google but just use them to hoist a fibre over the GVR like the fulton device in MGS and it would fall onto hwy 1 during rush hour but no one would be injured because it was gridlocked anyway. 5.6mil views!
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Feb 26, 2021 00:57
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Nitr0 posted:gently caress it's so easy why didn't I think of this? If you get the chance, read Michael Lewis' book "Flash Boys: A Wall Street Revolt". Some high speed traders just dug the trench and didn't bother with permits. 
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Feb 26, 2021 01:03
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Nitr0 posted:gently caress it's so easy why didn't I think of this? Google did, how's Google fibre in Louisville anyway?
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Feb 26, 2021 01:46
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What the gently caress is frost heave? - A bunch of Californians
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infernal machines posted:What the gently caress is frost heave? "It's a Texas thing, ya'll wouldn' unner'stan',"  That was some bad poo poo this last week. 
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Feb 26, 2021 01:54
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I went this long in life without realizing LTT Linus is Canadian.
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Feb 26, 2021 15:06
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Didn't he work for NCIX or was that a different Linus?
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That was Linus Torvaldis. Who invented Unix during his 20% time at Ncix, hence the name.
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I miss NCIX and ATIC of the 90s.  Should hire some out of work horizontal drillers from Alberta to drill straight under Burnaby and southern Van straight into the downtown core and put in a conduit. e: Pretty sure LTT Linus has commented about working at NCIX
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Feb 26, 2021 15:37
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Yeah, he started NCIX Tech Tips and spun it off on his own eventually. Edit: NCIX Bankruptcy auction Day 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29LL3blOxds Day 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDZfh5IjGv8 Why Linus left NCIX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUz10TAmsXA
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Linus has all these little tics and asides that makes me think he's great on camera, but would be a nightmare to work for. At least if you're not one of the inner circle that doesn't get camera time. He's already admitted he was a massive twat in high-school, like well beyond what any teen typically is. And there was that behind the scenes video where he was throwing a literal tantrum over nothing, and one of his handlers had to be "okay, everyone clear the room, linus is having a normal one".
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He is also, notably, an absolute moron with computers and frequently breaks things because he doesn't know what he's doing.
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Feb 26, 2021 17:15
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Mister Facetious posted:Oh man, the digging permits alone would kill them. I thought exchanges were more numerous than that. No joke. Vancouver permits balloon the price to hundreds, if not thousands of dollars per meter, from my understanding.
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infernal machines posted:He is also, notably, an absolute moron with computers and frequently breaks things because he doesn't know what he's doing. it's easy to bag on successful people but i've never enjoyed the shows for this reason and several others tbh. but i mean dude's a millionaire so i just figured i wasn't seeing what everyone else liked.
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It bugs me that in all his recent videos when he shows their office it's completely fully staff (albeit with masked employees). Like nobody can edit and upload his videos with a loving 10GE SSD SAN, so everybody keep coming in for this essential service during a pandemic.
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mediaphage posted:it's easy to bag on successful people but i've never enjoyed the shows for this reason and several others tbh. but i mean dude's a millionaire so i just figured i wasn't seeing what everyone else liked. You don’t need to actually know anything about the product you’re selling for people to like it. See Elon that piece of poo poo, he has no knowledge of how things get done but people like him. Nitr0 fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Feb 26, 2021 |
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Less Fat Luke posted:It bugs me that in all his recent videos when he shows their office it's completely fully staff (albeit with masked employees). Like nobody can edit and upload his videos with a loving 10GE SSD SAN, so everybody keep coming in for this essential service during a pandemic. given the posts that make him sound like a super diva, i guess i'm not surprised Nitr0 posted:You don’t need to actually know anything about the product you’re selling for people to like it. See Elon that piece of poo poo, he has no knowledge of how things get done but people like him. i'm guessing he's also a big elon fan
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Feb 26, 2021 19:58
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mediaphage posted:i'm guessing he's also a big elon fan 
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He wouldn't be a proper Canadian if he wasn't trolling his American audience all the time.
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Mister Facetious posted:He wouldn't be a proper Canadian if he wasn't trolling his American audience all the time. canadians are just americans that spell things with extra letters most of the time
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I wish his channel was more laid back but he's always like - check out this cool tv.... that I was gifted by LG and im using this cool soundbar... that costs $2,000. Like good for him from being some NCIX shill but know your roots.
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I hung out with Linus when I was new to Vancouver around 2006. I left town before he became YT famous so I haven't talked to him in like 10 years but he's just pumped he gets to screw with a bunch of technology and make a ton of money doing it. It was his lot in life at NCIX too and he always wanted more from the NCIX channel than what management was willing to give him.
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mediaphage posted:canadians are just americans that spell things with extra letters most of the time That's part of the trolling! 
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Feb 26, 2021 21:11
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Martytoof posted:I went this long in life without realizing LTT Linus is Canadian.
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Feb 26, 2021 21:28
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I'm aware of him because his "we're entirely too stupid to set up RAID in a sane way and it nuked our entire business" and "I broke a $10k iMac Pro because I'm a clown with a hammer" videos came up in YOSPOS
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Name one person on YouTube, who's successful just from YouTube, that's useful. You can't. Videos made by useful people who exist outside the internet are cool. Everything else is quite literally filler
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