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Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

Blistex posted:

Mastercard Charges

If it's a bank mastercard (Debit MasterCard), charge back the first one and get a new card.

If it's a real credit card, charge back both charges. Visa/MC is really good about consumer protection.


I've done this so many times when dealing with cable/sat/telcom providers that it's kinda funny.

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Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

marketingman posted:

Oh, so you agree that communications infrastructure should be publicly owned and run. That's refreshing, it's so rare to speak to an American that isn't all RARRRGH SOCIALISM, CAPITALISM IS THE ONLY TRUE WAY, THE FREE MARKET WILL PROVIDE!!

Capitalism isn't the only way. It's just the most dynamic. Like companies, social and communist governments are slow to change with the times. Having a market-oriented structure with diffuse and myriad controls and releases allows for the entire economy to change in a relatively quick time frame.

This breaks down when you have a monopolistic system, however, and that's where socialism has a benefit. Which is why some socialistic institutions are required for any capitalist market, which is what you'll find in the US. As in most things, moderation and vigilance are required at all times.

However, BOTH capitalist and socialist market methodologies break down when you have a corrupt system, like you have there in Canada (I know. We are just as corrupt). This is the main reason I oppose public ownership: the gene pool of the politicians can be easily corrupted by a giant donation to their campaign by whatever company wants an all-but-zero-price contract on the now-public-owned infrastructure.

Let's imagine Canada going to public-owned infrastructure. First, the telcos will get paid for all maintenance performed, which means to make more profit, Bell will go to cheaper quality parts, sold at the original price, which will break down more and get them more money.

Second, without those funds to contribute to campaigns, the little guys will still be shut out. Loop holes in the law will be written that allow the telcos special priveledges, which means they can offer their service at 1/2 the cost of anyone else. They'll never get moved from the current "Evil Monopoly" status.

Third, if you think dealing with Bell is bad, wait until you have to call a beuaracratized call center. If you want to know what I mean, call the IRS down here in the states with any issue. Even to make a payment. You'll jab your eyes out with the nearest pointy object you can find.

And this is a bit pessimistic, but it's all things you already see within the Canadian (and US, truthfully) governments as well as the Canadian huge ISPs. All that'll change is that you'll probably get WORSE internet service (because of #1 up there) while politicians slap themselves on the back for a job well done.

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

Squibbles posted:

Doesn't sound quite as bad as that town in the US that got sued :)
I only vaguely recall this, but if I remember right, there was a breach of contract, as several towns have setup their own internet connections in several parts of the US. But the one that got sued (It was around Portland, I think.) got sued because they started this project with some company that normally provides internet access, but the company did the bare minimums of what was required and the city decided to break contract without cause.

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

Whiskey A Go Go! posted:

for not being in a permanent residence

Are Canadian apartment buildings made out of cloth or something? How is an apartment not a permanent residence?

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

rscott posted:

I love the "With today's technology unlimited bandwidth simply is not possible" line. Bandwidth is cheaper than ever, what the gently caress are they talking about?

They are talking about how they like your money.

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

orange lime posted:

[e] I wonder if it's even possible to calculate how little a single text message (160 bytes) costs to send, when the telcos charge you 15 cents each? One thing at a time though.

The 160 byte SMS messages are free for the carrier. They are sent to your phone during it's normal update against the cell towers in an area of dataspace that was previously assigned for expansion.

You are literally paying them for the right to do almost nothing.

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

From an American who has to ship to Canada every year for a project my company works with, Canadian Customs fucks with UPS hard. I have no idea why, but if I send it with a customs doc on FedEx, it takes about a day to clear Customs. When I send it UPS (literally, an identical package in every way, same customs doc and eveything) it sits in customs for two weeks while Canada Customs stares at it from across the facility.

Sending via USPS is similar to sending via FedEx, but more expensive so I don't use it much.

I think UPS either pissed off the Customs Service up there, or they present everything as "potential bomb" when trying to drag it through Customs.

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

Dallan Invictus posted:

That's a pretty overwrought headline for an article that says: "Media producer trade group wants to lobby the CRTC to turn around ten years of precedent for not regulating new media, and make Netflix contribute to the various Canadian TV/film production funds like the traditional broadcasters do."

It could happen, I guess, but that's a very speculative article.

It's also written by someone who seems to agree it should happen. And it's very, very brief, covering none of the actual nuances of what should be covered about media distribution and the like. Instead things like "...and it's expensive. Streaming media was tacked onto my bill last month!" are discussed.

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

Is WoW a big enough thing in Canada for this to effectively empty Roger's user base?

I know that even the big guys down in the States would get crucified for doing that to someone's crack coca--I mean WoW. A small ISP would probably not survive.

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

Squibbles posted:

From the sounds of that they say the solution is to turn off "peer to peer" in the options which to me indicates they are just throttling bit torrent not game itself. Any actual game lag would be just rogers being lovely I assume.

It actually sounds to me like they break the overall connection the minute they detect P2P activity.

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

Migishu posted:

Well, on the plus side, we're not the US where the 2 largest internet providers are merging :v:

Who is merging?

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

mediaphage posted:

Charter and Time Warner.

Those aren't the two largest. And even after a merger, they will only hold #2 to Comcast.

Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

mediaphage posted:

I'm aware but if you can think of another major cable merger, by all means.

The recently dropped Comcast and TW merger comes to mind, where it was the #1 and #2/#3 provider merging.

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Arsten
Feb 18, 2003

less than three posted:

In a landmark international licensing agreement, each episode of the highly anticipated new Star Trek series will be available to Netflix members exclusively in the 188 countries within 24 hours of the United States premiere. Further, all 727 existing episodes within the Star Trek television library – spanning from The Original Series, The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine to Voyager and Enterprise – will be available on Netflix around the globe by the end of 2016.*

* except Canada, where it will be exclusively on CraveTV, Bell Media’s streaming video-on-demand service. :suicide:

Don't forget that your southern hick neighbors have the same issue. You have to buy into CBS's streaming service to get it down here. At least you guys have the option to move to the UK and pretend to be British. :(

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