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Eregos
Aug 17, 2006

A Reversal of Fortune, Perhaps?
I'm trying to edit 4k manual recordings from the PS5. PS5 only lets me record these in .webm (.mp4 is only for HD, otherwise I'd use that). DaVinci Resolve and Lightworks' latest versions can edit these videos just fine, the problem is the audio in the Opus format, which the editors never import at all. I'm novice at video editing but I tried ripping just the audio with ffmpeg separately (results in A/V sync issues, down to the frame it won't line up exactly), also converting 4k .webm to another format but colors got washed out. Tried renaming them to .mkv and has the same problem of audio not imported. I prefer working in DaVinci Resolve, it's clearly less hassle. How might I convert .webm to another format without quality loss or audio sync issues? Or should I try something else?

After exporting PS5->USB, I fed a recently recorded 4k .webm into mediainfo, it gave this technical file info (slightly piqued this didn't seem to be on Sony's website anywhere)
edit: Knowing which export settings to use in DaVinci Resolve so Youtube takes the 4k video at high quality would also help a lot.

mediainfo, about PS5's 4k manual recording posted:

Complete name : M:\projects\4kvideotest.webm
Format : WebM
Format version : Version 4
File size : 9.71 GiB
Duration : 29 min 17 s
Overall bit rate : 47.4 Mb/s
Frame rate : 59.940 FPS
Writing application : mkvmux 1.0.0
Writing library : mkvmux 1.0.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : VP9
Format profile : 2
Format level : 5.1
Codec ID : V_VP9
Duration : 29 min 17 s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 59.940 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 0)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
colour_range_Original : Full
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant

Audio
ID : 2
Format : Opus
Codec ID : A_OPUS
Duration : 29 min 17 s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Eregos fucked around with this message at 10:15 on Sep 6, 2025

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Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!
I'd give Handbrake a try. It usually handles any weird audio/video combo I throw at it well.

Eregos
Aug 17, 2006

A Reversal of Fortune, Perhaps?

Origami Dali posted:

I'd give Handbrake a try. It usually handles any weird audio/video combo I throw at it well.

I'll give it a try. I've used handbrake before, it was great for batch compressing gameplay videos.

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

Handbrake’ll eat basically anything in my experience and it also lets you cut from an in point to an out point, so if you’re just clipping and not doing full edits it should be all you need.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

*in rodney dangerfield voice* : wow, if this thread gets any more livelier, a funeral's gonna break out!

anyway, i was looking to buy an external SSD, and i was curious which one you guys think is better for video editing? this:

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/crucial-x9-2tb-external-usb-c-ssd-black/JX8PSKCCVG

or this:

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/crucial-x10-pro-2tb-usb-c-external-ssd-black/JX8PSKCJ92

frytechnician
Jan 8, 2004

Happy to see me?

Mr Interweb posted:

*in rodney dangerfield voice* : wow, if this thread gets any more livelier, a funeral's gonna break out!

anyway, i was looking to buy an external SSD, and i was curious which one you guys think is better for video editing? this:

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/crucial-x9-2tb-external-usb-c-ssd-black/JX8PSKCCVG

or this:

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/crucial-x10-pro-2tb-usb-c-external-ssd-black/JX8PSKCJ92

Spring for the SanDisk 2TB instead. Have used Crucial stuff before and it's been a bit slow at times. Never had an issue with SanDisk stuff and it appears to be the same price at $149.99.

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/sandisk-2tb-external-usb-3-2-gen-2-type-c-portable-ssd-black/JXJ62CRCK2/sku/6540753#tabbed-customerreviews

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

frytechnician posted:

Spring for the SanDisk 2TB instead. Have used Crucial stuff before and it's been a bit slow at times. Never had an issue with SanDisk stuff and it appears to be the same price at $149.99.

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/sandisk-2tb-external-usb-3-2-gen-2-type-c-portable-ssd-black/JXJ62CRCK2/sku/6540753#tabbed-customerreviews

and this should be fast enough to do editing in 1080p?

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.

Mr Interweb posted:

and this should be fast enough to do editing in 1080p?

Absolutely, you can edit 1080 off a spinning disc (don't, get the ssd)

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

frytechnician posted:

Spring for the SanDisk 2TB instead. Have used Crucial stuff before and it's been a bit slow at times. Never had an issue with SanDisk stuff and it appears to be the same price at $149.99.

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/sandisk-2tb-external-usb-3-2-gen-2-type-c-portable-ssd-black/JXJ62CRCK2/sku/6540753#tabbed-customerreviews

I'm not sure which Crucial drive you were using that was slow, but that SanDisk drive is less than half the speed of those Crucials. (800 MB/s vs 2000 MB/s)

And SanDisk has been disavowed by a lot of folks for past SSD failures.

I'd definitely go for the Crucials over the SanDisk for both quality and speed. 1080 should be fine on both, but you have a bit more headroom for higher res stuff with the Crucial.

I, personally, have used the Crucial's before and love them.

I'm currently actually editing a full feature (1080p proxies in Avid) on this drive and it's been a dream https://www.bestbuy.com/product/samsung-t9-portable-ssd-2tb-up-to-2000mb-s-usb-3-2-gen2-black/J3ZYG28686

Something Else
Dec 27, 2004

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022
Those Samsung SSDs are my go to as well. I just org’d an indie feature in Premiere, 15 days of 4k transcodes, entirely off a Samsung USB-C SSD like the one linked above, and it flew.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

cool. i'm not doing - nor do i plan to do - a lot of full HD and higher editing (i mainly do 720p vids, never had any playback stutters/problems) but i do have one or two upcoming videos that will need to be higher quality than i'm used to

thunderspanks
Nov 5, 2003

crucify this



Mr Interweb posted:

a lot of full HD and higher editing (i mainly do 720p vids, never had any playback stutters/problems)

Not to be flippant about your question but for real man you could do this poo poo on a laptop from 2010 hooked up to slow rear end platter drives from the same year and it would perform well. If you're locked into a 720/1080 space in 2025 then the good news is literally anything on the market will perform acceptably-to-excellently for you. For your specific inquiry about drives, I'd say focus on reliability/size as on a performance level you're not going to find a major difference between SSDs & HDDs*, let alone performance differences between various models of each.

*there are exceptions to this of course if what you aren't telling us is that you plan to run 30 video tracks at the same time or are importing hundreds of hour long clips at once and could benefit from, say, the extremely fast caching on an SSD.

edit: I actually tunnel visioned a bit on the first part and missed this:

Mr Interweb posted:

but i do have one or two upcoming videos that will need to be higher quality than i'm used to
By higher quality do you mean anything over 1080? If you're confident nothing will be over 1080 then my personal vote is still to probably stay in the HDD world to save yourself some money and get way more Gb/$ value

thunderspanks fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Nov 29, 2025

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
Yeah spinning disk drives and older CPU’s can easily edit 720p or 1080p, there might be a tiny bit of seek time but it’s not terrible.

On the flip side, I’ve done lots of 4k work using those Crucial SSD’s and they’re plenty fast, even with multiple streams.

frytechnician
Jan 8, 2004

Happy to see me?

BonoMan posted:

I'm not sure which Crucial drive you were using that was slow, but that SanDisk drive is less than half the speed of those Crucials. (800 MB/s vs 2000 MB/s)

And SanDisk has been disavowed by a lot of folks for past SSD failures.


Can't remember the specific type but work bought them ages ago so maybe we just got a couple of duds. Had several producers moaning that they were slower when transferring rushes from camera than the SanDisks so couldn't vouch for any of this personally!

e: Should have specified this earlier and was misleading saying that I had used them before when really, I haven't edited directly off them, rather just transferred rushes off them onto a Lacie 2 Dock where I keep most of the years projects. If you're editing 1080, as others have said, you're golden.

frytechnician fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Nov 29, 2025

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

Eregos posted:

I'm trying to edit 4k manual recordings from the PS5. PS5 only lets me record these in .webm (.mp4 is only for HD, otherwise I'd use that). DaVinci Resolve and Lightworks' latest versions can edit these videos just fine, the problem is the audio in the Opus format, which the editors never import at all. I'm novice at video editing but I tried ripping just the audio with ffmpeg separately (results in A/V sync issues, down to the frame it won't line up exactly), also converting 4k .webm to another format but colors got washed out. Tried renaming them to .mkv and has the same problem of audio not imported. I prefer working in DaVinci Resolve, it's clearly less hassle. How might I convert .webm to another format without quality loss or audio sync issues? Or should I try something else?

After exporting PS5->USB, I fed a recently recorded 4k .webm into mediainfo, it gave this technical file info (slightly piqued this didn't seem to be on Sony's website anywhere)
edit: Knowing which export settings to use in DaVinci Resolve so Youtube takes the 4k video at high quality would also help a lot.

Very old post but I’ve been editing clips from PS5 in Resolve recently and the easiest way is to deal with this is to convert the audio only in VLC to wav and then drop it in the audio track.

I’ve been trying to make some long form content about the game Dispatch, but following a recent game update all the PS5 capture has been in a different color profile. So half my footage is good and the other half is not. It’s flat, but it’s not quite log either, so when I apply a standard rec709 LUT it doesn’t match the old footage.

Oddly, when you view the footage on the PS5’s media player, the correct color information is being parsed. So it seems like an issue with how metadata is being handled. I tried to apply a Sony rec709 profile and then manually grade some shots but I can’t get it quite right.

I suppose I could re-record everything so it matches, but that seems like a pain in the rear end and time consuming. Is there anyone with knowledge of what kind of color space transforms would match the original good capture?

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

thunderspanks posted:

Not to be flippant about your question but for real man you could do this poo poo on a laptop from 2010 hooked up to slow rear end platter drives from the same year and it would perform well. If you're locked into a 720/1080 space in 2025 then the good news is literally anything on the market will perform acceptably-to-excellently for you. For your specific inquiry about drives, I'd say focus on reliability/size as on a performance level you're not going to find a major difference between SSDs & HDDs*, let alone performance differences between various models of each.

*there are exceptions to this of course if what you aren't telling us is that you plan to run 30 video tracks at the same time or are importing hundreds of hour long clips at once and could benefit from, say, the extremely fast caching on an SSD.


1st AD posted:

Yeah spinning disk drives and older CPU’s can easily edit 720p or 1080p, there might be a tiny bit of seek time but it’s not terrible.

wow, really? even 1080p won't be a problem for just HDDs? if so, that's gonna be really helpful! :monocle:

quote:

edit: I actually tunnel visioned a bit on the first part and missed this:

By higher quality do you mean anything over 1080? If you're confident nothing will be over 1080 then my personal vote is still to probably stay in the HDD world to save yourself some money and get way more Gb/$ value

the "higher quality" meant "higher than 720p", and those vids i plan on doing are going to be in 1080p. for the kind of stuff i work on, i don't think i'm ever going to have a need to work on anything more than 1080p (at least, for the near future)

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
Keep in mind I’m talking about 7200-10,000rpm drives.

A lot of consumer HDDs are 5400 rpm and you will HATE editing on those.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

1st AD posted:

Keep in mind I’m talking about 7200-10,000rpm drives.

A lot of consumer HDDs are 5400 rpm and you will HATE editing on those.

gotcha.

so follow up question, in that case, which HDD should i get here then?

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/sea...lack/J37C5H48K5

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/wd-easystore-5tb-external-usb-3-2-gen-1-portable-hard-drive-black/JXTHCJVLGF

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/wd-my-passport-4tb-external-usb-3-0-portable-hard-drive-black/JXTHCJFHC6

none of these appear to mention the speed for some reason

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
Do not get an HDD. Please just get an SSD. Tiny portable fast and durable vs slow, clunky and needs to be powered (if you get anything with a decent speed).

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer
The little portables like those are quite a bit slower than the plug into the wall kind. I still think for what you’re describing you’d survive, but if you can swing an ssd it’s gonna be a lot nicer.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

aside from possible speed/playback issues, does editing off an HDD cause it to degrade faster?

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Mr Interweb posted:

aside from possible speed/playback issues, does editing off an HDD cause it to degrade faster?

Drives (ssd and HDD) have statistically max read/writes but you're unlikely to need to worry about that at all. It should not be a factor in your purchase.

But a platter drive has moving parts which just introduces another failure point.

There is zero reason to get the HDD.

Sitting Here
Dec 31, 2007
There was a recent discussion about having a general purpose thread for posting and discussing all human-made art. im just gonna repost it in some threads that I know people have bookmarked.

thread

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Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

BonoMan posted:

Do not get an HDD. Please just get an SSD. Tiny portable fast and durable vs slow, clunky and needs to be powered (if you get anything with a decent speed).

I edit for a living and the first thing I do if anyone has the audacity to send me a HDD with rushes is dump them all to an SSD and never touch the hard drive again.

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