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Hey, finally a thread about Mercedes-Benz! My current driver is a 2010 C350 CDI, but I'll switch to Smart next year (oh boy  ).The Third Man posted:Mercedes powertrains are awesome, I don't understand why they don't offer a manual transmission option in ANY of their cars... Currently, manual transmission is standard on the A-, B-, C(LC)-, E-, SLK and GLK-Class for the 4-cylinder models, but it's possible that those aren't sold on U.S. market. Frankly, I don't understand why manual is still being offered - Mercedes-Benz is all about comfort and cruising in luxury.
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CornHolio posted:I love that interior. No, seriously. I want a 747 cockpit in my Mercedes. Those Recaros with the controls on the bolster are rare and worth a fortune. They were one of those off-the-books options that ran over $10k back in the 80s.
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Dec 1, 2010 19:34
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Frank Dillinger posted:sorry, The E-Class coupe is mercedes' best looker right now (except maybe a CL63 in black...UNF) I just spent a week and a half in an E350 Bluetec, one of the best non-sports sedans I've ever driven. Benz is back to building cars like they used to. entrox posted:Hey, finally a thread about Mercedes-Benz! My current driver is a 2010 C350 CDI, but I'll switch to Smart next year (oh boy Who did you piss off to get that deal
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Dec 1, 2010 20:45
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entrox posted:Currently, manual transmission is standard on the A-, B-, C(LC)-, E-, SLK and GLK-Class for the 4-cylinder models, but it's possible that those aren't sold on U.S. market. Frankly, I don't understand why manual is still being offered - Mercedes-Benz is all about comfort and cruising in luxury. The only current cars in the US that MB sells that has a manual is the C300 Sport Sedan and the CLK300 coupe. The C350 Sport has the 7 speed auto as does the CLK350.
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Dec 1, 2010 21:10
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redscare posted:I just spent a week and a half in an E350 Bluetec, one of the best non-sports sedans I've ever driven. Benz is back to building cars like they used to
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Dec 1, 2010 22:33
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skipdogg posted:The only current cars in the US that MB sells that has a manual is the C300 Sport Sedan and the CLK300 coupe. The C350 Sport has the 7 speed auto as does the CLK350. Ya they have pretty much no sticks, buy most of them have paddle shifters, which even after a good amount of time using, I have still not gotten used to. The other day I read that they are developing a car to compete with the 1 series and A3, which should be exciting.
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Dec 2, 2010 03:41
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Cushy posted:Ya they have pretty much no sticks, buy most of them have paddle shifters, which even after a good amount of time using, I have still not gotten used to. Why? It'll probably be another C230 Kompressor
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Dec 2, 2010 04:04
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My dad is looking for an iPhone kit for his 2005 CLS with COMMAND, are there many decent intergration options?
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Dec 2, 2010 06:07
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Das Volk posted:Those Recaros with the controls on the bolster are rare and worth a fortune. They were one of those off-the-books options that ran over $10k back in the 80s. 10k  those seats cost more than a Accord.Do they have a specific model name?
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Dec 2, 2010 06:08
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Yeticopter posted:Why? It'll probably be another C230 Kompressor They still make those overseas as the CLC. They look even dumber with the new C-class front end.
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Dec 2, 2010 06:13
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Chunderbuss posted:My dad is looking for an iPhone kit for his 2005 CLS with COMMAND, are there many decent intergration options? well, there is an official benz kit, afaik, but lets just say installation isn't all that easy and the part alone costs an assload. edit: whoops, thought you meant iPod, disregard. Frank Dillinger fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Dec 2, 2010 |
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Dec 2, 2010 19:55
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Das Volk posted:Those Recaros with the controls on the bolster are rare and worth a fortune. They were one of those off-the-books options that ran over $10k back in the 80s. I saw a 1981 500SEL AMG in decent shape for sale with those Recaros a while back. The car was an unfortunate color, but I was kinda interested anyways. How much are the seats and/or the whole car actually worth these days?
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Dec 2, 2010 20:03
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entrox posted:Currently, manual transmission is standard on the A-, B-, C(LC)-, E-, SLK and GLK-Class for the 4-cylinder models, but it's possible that those aren't sold on U.S. market. Frankly, I don't understand why manual is still being offered - Mercedes-Benz is all about comfort and cruising in luxury. I don't think any of the sticks make it to the US these days. I've never driven a Mercedes stick but I've always heard them described as less-than-desirable manual gearboxes, as opposed to what you'd find in a BMW or a Mazda.
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Dec 2, 2010 21:51
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Frank Dillinger posted:well, there is an official benz kit, afaik, but lets just say installation isn't all that easy and the part alone costs an assload. Surely they would be similar? Only really worried about making the COMMAND's controls work for answering the phone/handsfree, which it already does for another type of phone. Any options other than handing a blank cheque to the dealer?
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Dec 2, 2010 21:58
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IOwnCalculus posted:I don't think any of the sticks make it to the US these days. I've never driven a Mercedes stick but I've always heard them described as less-than-desirable manual gearboxes, as opposed to what you'd find in a BMW or a Mazda. Certainly the 4-speed in my 240d is nothing to write home about. You feel very removed from the gearbox when shifting. Remember that video arcade classic "Hard Drivin"? It's a lot like that shifter. It doesn't actually feel like you are moving anything beyond the shifter itself. However, it will remind you that there is actually a physical link between the shifter and the cogbox if you overrun the syncros. Other than that, nothing. I wouldn't have the car without the manual though. No way do I want a 30 year old Mercedes automatic mystery box.
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Dec 2, 2010 22:01
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trouser chili posted:No way do I want a 30 year old Mercedes automatic mystery box.
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Dec 2, 2010 22:31
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Mad Dragon posted:Who made MB automatics back then? I'm guessing Mercedes did. The 240d autobox from my year is the W3A040, which appears to be Mercedes only in application.
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Dec 2, 2010 22:43
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Mad Dragon posted:Who made MB automatics back then?
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Dec 2, 2010 22:45
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You Am I posted:Mercedes Benz makes all their own automatic gearboxes.
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Dec 2, 2010 22:52
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Mercedes automatics are pretty drat godly, though. I absolutely loved the one in our '97 E320. The rest of the car fell apart around it, but the drivetrain in that thing was awesome.
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Dec 2, 2010 23:36
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My wife drives an 5 year old A150, which is both slow and ugly, but also cheap for a mercedes and very spacious. It's almost a guilty pleasure driving an automatic after 15 years of driving manuals. I don't think they were ever sold in the US though.
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Dec 3, 2010 13:56
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cynic posted:My wife drives an 5 year old A150, which is both slow and ugly, but also cheap for a mercedes and very spacious. It's almost a guilty pleasure driving an automatic after 15 years of driving manuals. I don't think they were ever sold in the US though. none of the vans are, although they were planning on bringing the B class to America for a while, but it never came.
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Dec 4, 2010 00:32
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Cushy posted:none of the vans are, although they were planning on bringing the B class to America for a while, but it never came. That's because they realized nobody would buy one
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Dec 4, 2010 00:40
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redscare posted:That's because they realized nobody would buy one ya, they aren't big enough for this country
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Dec 4, 2010 00:58
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Cushy posted:ya, they aren't big enough for this country They're also way too dinky to be a proper Mercedes, it would do too much damage to their brand image
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Dec 4, 2010 01:12
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We have the B class in Canada, but it's not breaking any sales records.
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Dec 4, 2010 01:57
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~my e55~
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Dec 4, 2010 04:09
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skipdogg posted:The only current cars in the US that MB sells that has a manual is the C300 Sport Sedan and the CLK300 coupe.  CLK isn't sold anymore. The SLK300 has a manual though.
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Dec 4, 2010 07:47
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Anyone here ever replace a water pump on a W123 240d? I'm about to.
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Dec 7, 2010 23:30
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Well I'm halfway through my water pump replacement. Since I'm new to the car, I'm taking my time and carefully making each step. The car is still proving to be remarkably easy to work on. I was reading there were some space issue getting the fan off, guys were talking about grinding down 10mm box-end wrenches and things. However I was able to shove my fat paws in place with a ratchet and 10mm socket just fine. The fan shroud was held in place by two easy clips at the top, and an interference fit at the bottom. The fan came loose with four bolts. The water pump is driven by the alternator belt, and the alternator mount provides tension, so the alternator had to come loose. This gave me the most trouble. There was a nut on the back of the alternator mount that had to be loosened and access was interfered by an A/C hose. I was able to get a small adjustable wrench on it though, and then run the tension mechanism down until I could remove the pully from the water pump. The water pump itself was held in by 5 easily accessed bolts. They came easy, and with the first one out it began pissing coolant from the hole. I think I will re-install the bolts with a bit of RTV on them. With all the bolts removed, the water pump will rest in place. Rubber mallet application to the old water pump is suggested, however I couldn't find mine so I used a 1/2 inch drive Craftsman ratchet to bang on it. It came out easily enough, and the gasket remained stuck to the water pump. I sprayed some orange cleaner on the gasket surface on the engine side and called it a night cause I had to put the kids to bed. I'll finish up tomorrow (now today).
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Dec 8, 2010 16:28
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Try and replace a water pump on a six cylinder model of that car. Bloody knuckles indeed.
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Dec 8, 2010 23:20
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You Am I posted:Try and replace a water pump on a six cylinder model of that car. Bloody knuckles indeed. I bet, the turbodiesel (300D) are a five cylinder though, is that what you are talking about? Do the 300D have different engine mounting? I'd guess it have to be a bit further back in the bay.
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Dec 8, 2010 23:31
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wav3form posted:Did you downshift? The C230s are depressingly slow. They really are. My dad has a '98 SLK230 that he will not get rid of despite it being a horrendous money pit and a giant piece of poo poo in general, and it is slow as poo poo.
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Dec 8, 2010 23:44
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trouser chili posted:I bet, the turbodiesel (300D) are a five cylinder though, is that what you are talking about? Do the 300D have different engine mounting? I'd guess it have to be a bit further back in the bay.
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Dec 9, 2010 02:17
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You Am I posted:No, a petrol six like the 280 motor Ah. Yeah never messed with that. Those are the relatively low-spec gas engines, correct? Just reiterates how while I love the cars like the 6.9 and the Grosser I'd never ever ever be convinced to own one. Anyway, I made NO progress today. Here's my working environment. A nice thing about the Mercedes W123 cars is how wide the hood will open. One can theoretically pull an engine without removing the hood. And at full-open they are positively locked up, so they can't fall on you.  A little closer shot of the bits I'm working on. Very easy to reach and do anything.  This may actually be working to my detriment. I'm used to having little access, awkward angles and impossible to torque bolts. With so much room I snapped a water pump bolt with ease.  The loving thing is tiny anyway. I'm afraid after years of hitting IH trucks with progressively larger hammers I've become perhaps a bit brutish in my work. Anyway, the other end of the drat thing was nearly flush with the block, but enough stuck out I was able to slot it with a Dremel and screw it out with a flathead.  So I guess until I can get to the hardware store tomorrow I can just shove this thing up my rear end and twirl it around.  To add insult to injury, the parts-car 240d wouldn't start. I put it outside to work on the good car and it got down to like 15 degrees last night, so in the early morning it just chugged for a bit, made some smoke, and drained it's battery. I drove the pickup to work and plugged a charger into the battery of the parts car, I also got smart enough to plug in the block heater. DERP. 
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Dec 9, 2010 02:36
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The twin cam 2.8lt motor was pretty good, but it depends which country the car was delivered to. The smogged US cars were far more sluggish than the European/Australian motors. Smooth as butter as well. I wish MB would go back to straight sixes.
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You Am I posted:The twin cam 2.8lt motor was pretty good, but it depends which country the car was delivered to. The smogged US cars were far more sluggish than the European/Australian motors. Smooth as butter as well. I wish MB would go back to straight sixes. The Straight-6's time has come and gone . Lovely engines, but even BMW may stop with them soon, if the next 3 is any indication. The V6 just makes more sense packaging wise.
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Dec 9, 2010 06:58
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Das Volk posted:Those Recaros with the controls on the bolster are rare and worth a fortune. They were one of those off-the-books options that ran over $10k back in the 80s. Here's a $4k W126 that looks like it has these Recaros: No idea who modified this one. It might be a Lorinser W126, as the grille has been molded into the body. Crank windows means it's a Euro model. Whoever created this was on cocaine, that's for sure. (the car is a POS but worth the parts if you buy it when the impound lot auctions it) http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/2103865858.html 
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Dec 11, 2010 01:24
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CornHolio posted:I love that interior. No, seriously. I want a 747 cockpit in my Mercedes. It looks to me like there are actually TWO calculators! One is between the seats, the other is hiding behind the gear stick. I love the utter lunacy of that setup. If a thief ever broke into that car he take one look at the sheer acreage of controls and burst into tears.
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Gorilla Salad posted:It looks to me like there are actually TWO calculators! I assume it's so the car can dominate the in the domain of drug deals per second.
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