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Paul MaudDib
May 2, 2006

"Tell me of your home world, Usul"


Chard posted:

I checked when I got home and this card has one each DVI, HDMI, and DisplayPort so I think I'll be okay. What I'm wondering now is if the XB270 is still being sold, all I'm finding is the 271 and I could really live without their Predator styling, if possible. Are their any refurb vendors that are better than others?

Yeah, the XB270HU is discontinued and you may have trouble finding them at this point. Even refurbs have dried up.

AcerRecertified is the go-to, here is their listing for the IPS version (4ms, p/n ends in 001). You may be able to find a new one for $550-ish if you look around - their refurb prices aren't as good as they used to be. I think Microcenter has the AOC equivalent for about that as well. Or you can get a refurb X34 for ~$725 pretty regularly.

The HDMI input, USB hub, and audio output are nice. My headphones recently died and I haven't gotten around to fixing them, but I didn't have the right cables to plug my lovely backup pair into my DAC (1/4" output), and I didn't have a cable long enough to get to the back of my PC. The X34 saved the day, ran off its 3.5mm output jack.

The only thing I don't like on the newer models is the zero-bezel. Zero-bezel models tend to have more BLB than fat-bezel models, Nixeus reps have commented that they made a deliberate decision to go fat-bezel on their EDG model for this reason.

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Chard
Aug 24, 2010



Pillbug

Paul MaudDib posted:

Yeah, the XB270HU is discontinued and you may have trouble finding them at this point. Even refurbs have dried up.

AcerRecertified is the go-to, here is their listing for the IPS version (4ms, p/n ends in 001). You may be able to find a new one for $550-ish if you look around - their refurb prices aren't as good as they used to be. I think Microcenter has the AOC equivalent for about that as well. Or you can get a refurb X34 for ~$725 pretty regularly.

The HDMI input, USB hub, and audio output are nice. My headphones recently died and I haven't gotten around to fixing them, but I didn't have the right cables to plug my lovely backup pair into my DAC (1/4" output), and I didn't have a cable long enough to get to the back of my PC. The X34 saved the day, ran off its 3.5mm output jack.

The only thing I don't like on the newer models is the zero-bezel. Zero-bezel models tend to have more BLB than fat-bezel models, Nixeus reps have commented that they made a deliberate decision to go fat-bezel on their EDG model for this reason.

my first choice, I guess. At that price, I think I may as well go with this Amazon listing since I plan to get the 4 year warranty in either case. I think the price difference would be in the tens of dollars and maybe in Amazon's favor depending on shipping, and at that point I may as well get a new one? Maybe I'll spend the weekend looking around first

Chard fucked around with this message at Feb 17, 2018 around 00:25

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014



So, my dad is getting up there in years, and he's begun to complain that his monitor (presently an HP2311x) is too small.

I'm thinking what he *actually* means is that he needs the DPI scaling bumped up, but in order to keep Windows from displaying exactly seven-and-one-half icons on the desktop because they're so loving huge, I'm looking at a combination of larger panel size, *and* increased resolution to keep the pixels from being the size of my thumbnail, right?

So, anyone got a lead on a 16:9 1440p in the 28-32 inch range with excellent price/performance?

SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at Feb 18, 2018 around 16:27

SourKraut
Nov 20, 2005

I'M FLYING TO HARDEE'S

SwissArmyDruid posted:

So, my dad is getting up there in years, and he's begun to complain that his monitor (presently an HP2311x) is too small.

I'm thinking what he *actually* means is that he needs the DPI scaling bumped up, but in order to keep Windows from displaying exactly seven-and-one-half icons on the desktop because they're so loving huge, I'm looking at a combination of larger panel size, *and* increased resolution to keep the pixels from being the size of my thumbnail, right?

So, anyone got a lead on a 16:9 1440p in the 28-32 inch range with excellent price/performance?

This sounds like a perfect situation for the 32 HP Omen (W9S97AA) that shows up on sale all the time.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014



If it were me, I would immediately veto it out of hand because it lacks VESA mounting, but I've tried to get him to elevate his monitor in the past (in the form of a monitor stand just to start) and he refuses to, so I think this will do nicely. Cool beans, thanks.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003




SwissArmyDruid posted:

If it were me, I would immediately veto it out of hand because it lacks VESA mounting, but I've tried to get him to elevate his monitor in the past (in the form of a monitor stand just to start) and he refuses to, so I think this will do nicely. Cool beans, thanks.

It sounds like you've already made your choice, but I wouldn't worry about pixel size at all. If your dad's vision is going, having bigger pixels would probably be a benefit, as it would set the minimum width for a line, so you won't get elements (window borders, fonts, etc) that aren't visible to him.

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

It's dangerous to just play zone! Take this.


I built my GTX 1080 rig yesterday and I'm running things so smoothly on my 1080p/144hz monitor that I'm scared of upgrading to 1440p/165hz. How can I determine a rough estimate of what FPS I could get for Overwatch, WoW, and other games with a higher max FPS? And what would running something like Dark Souls 3, which is capped at 60fps, look like on a 165hz monitor?

Parker Lewis
Jan 4, 2006

Can't Lose

Good Will Hrunting posted:

I built my GTX 1080 rig yesterday and I'm running things so smoothly on my 1080p/144hz monitor that I'm scared of upgrading to 1440p/165hz. How can I determine a rough estimate of what FPS I could get for Overwatch, WoW, and other games with a higher max FPS? And what would running something like Dark Souls 3, which is capped at 60fps, look like on a 165hz monitor?

Use NVIDIA DSR to run your games at 2560x1440 and measure your FPS.

Good Will Hrunting
Oct 8, 2012

It's dangerous to just play zone! Take this.


Parker Lewis posted:

Use NVIDIA DSR to run your games at 2560x1440 and measure your FPS.

I'm getting about 110-120 FPS in fights in Overwatch on "High" at 2715x1527 via DSR so I'm probably fine. Thanks for the heads up!

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005


I am in need of advice and recommendations for a new monitor and a dual monitor mount. Brief backstory here, I am going to be doing some video editing and color correction before someone else will be doing final editing and possibly further color changing if their artistic eye decides they want it a little different than what I provide.

Currently I am running a windows pc with a GTX 960, i5-7600K, and 16GB of RAM. I anticipate my hardware will be fine but my current monitor situation is two TN panels with terrible colors as my only needs have been gaming until now.

I have an Acer XB241H I'll be keeping for gaming purposes. Size wise I would want something at least as big as it (24") but could go probably up to 28" max before I'd run out of desk space. My plan is to mount both on some sort of dual monitor mount that I will attach to my (homemade and sturdy as all gently caress) desk.

So what monitor would you recommend?

and what mount would you recommend?

Price is not super important but I don't want to spend an insane amount like how you have regular graphics cards for a few hundred and then movie studio cards that are like $10K.

Wrar
Sep 9, 2002



What's your budget? The Dell Ultrasharps usually have incredibly accurate color out of the box. The 2717D sounds like it would fit the bill and has a decent sRBG calibration out of the box. If you're doing color accurate work you probably want to pick up a colormeter.

osker
Dec 18, 2002


Fun Shoe

I airbrushed a photo the other day on my CS:GO 144hz TN panel and I thought it looked mint until I opened it up on my work monitor. Holy cow was it bad and off which is why I was looking at the Alienware 34s the other day. I dropped by microcenter and was kind of sad about lack of screen height, but I may pull the trigger on one.

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005


Wrar posted:

What's your budget? The Dell Ultrasharps usually have incredibly accurate color out of the box. The 2717D sounds like it would fit the bill and has a decent sRBG calibration out of the box. If you're doing color accurate work you probably want to pick up a colormeter.

I don't have a hard dollar limit. I could afford to get that model Dell. Will I have issues with my current monitor having a different native resolution?

I plan on starting out with just the monitor and seeing if a colormeter becomes needed a few weeks-ish down the line.

Any dual mount recommendations?

DrDork
Dec 29, 2003
commanding officer of the Army of Dorkness

tangy yet delightful posted:

I don't have a hard dollar limit. I could afford to get that model Dell. Will I have issues with my current monitor having a different native resolution?

I plan on starting out with just the monitor and seeing if a colormeter becomes needed a few weeks-ish down the line.

Any dual mount recommendations?

Modern OSes are very good about multimonitor setups, and you should have no issues with them being different.

For mounts, the general consensus seems to be that the Amazon Basic ones are simply re-branded high-end ones, and thus a great deal. They've got a whole line of them for whatever sort of desk mount you prefer.

Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017

Playoff Pats Poster

Feel free to ignore.


any advice for me here? im getting a graphical glitch which i wont bother to explain or show you because this thread at a different forum does so better than i could

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...-gsync-monitor/

restarting fixes it, was curious if there was a permanent fix or something i can do that doesnt require restarting my pc

Paul MaudDib
May 2, 2006

"Tell me of your home world, Usul"


osker posted:

I airbrushed a photo the other day on my CS:GO 144hz TN panel and I thought it looked mint until I opened it up on my work monitor. Holy cow was it bad and off which is why I was looking at the Alienware 34s the other day. I dropped by microcenter and was kind of sad about lack of screen height, but I may pull the trigger on one.

The 1080p panels in particular (1080p 144 Hz/240 Hz) are known for being very inaccurate. The 1440p panels are a newer generation and are probably better, but IPS is generally the best.

Note that curved panels can introduce some additional trouble for precision image work (straight lines aren't necessarily visually straight), particularly with steeper curves like the Alienware. The X34 and the PG348Q have an earlier generation of panel with a shallower curve.

Mofabio
May 15, 2003
(y - mx)*(1/(inf))*(PV/RT)*(2.718)*(V/I)

Mofabio posted:

poo poo, has anybody had luck finding info on or performing repairs of Dell monitors? I think the capacitive buttons gave out, I'm pretty sure. Won't even turn on. I can solder and de-solder PCB stuff and follow wiring diagrams if that helps.

If I'm being honest, if I were to choose any dreadful component of the monitor to die first, it would be those things. It's also unprotected next to a metal lathe producing a LOT of tiny slivers of aluminum and oil spray, I'm basically using the vents of this monitor to catch those things. But I think it's the buttons.

If it's not the buttons, what's around $300, 120hz, IPS?

Update on this, took the monitor apart per a youtube tutorial, vacuumed it out, and lo and behold it lives again.

I believe the problem was indeed that the power button cover was misaligned against the surface-mount PCB button. The button is now removed and I will 3D print a replacement. Saved myself like $300+ for an equivalent replacement and $170 off the AH-IPS replacement I'd put in my newegg cart. Always attempt a repair first!

Another monitor tip yall probably already know, but the only real manufacturers of LCD screens are LG, Hitachi, and Samsung. They make economy IPS and primo IPS. If you dig you can usually find the panel model, its tech, and then brand premiums for identical panels with different badges. That above was the cheapest AH-IPS screen I'd found, and would have approximately matched my second monitor, my still-chuggin Dell 2001FP 4:3 20" from high school, in pixel pitch (so the cursor wouldn't teleport vertically, when it jumps the screen gap).

Mofabio fucked around with this message at Feb 19, 2018 around 23:34

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005


DrDork posted:

Modern OSes are very good about multimonitor setups, and you should have no issues with them being different.

For mounts, the general consensus seems to be that the Amazon Basic ones are simply re-branded high-end ones, and thus a great deal. They've got a whole line of them for whatever sort of desk mount you prefer.

Looks like Amazon Basics are rebranded Ergotrons, thanks for the help!

Paul MaudDib
May 2, 2006

"Tell me of your home world, Usul"


Refurb XF270HU IPS FreeSync for $310 AR

(this is one of the good FreeSync implementations)

taels
Oct 19, 2012

K:CID:X


So I've had this xb271hu for about a month and lately been noticing what appears to be SEVERE bob in the lower right corner. Is this assumption correct? Here's a pic in a dark room gently caress you my desk is filthy

Edit don't think thumb is working so here's a link
https://m.imgur.com/a/vPxkr

taels fucked around with this message at Feb 20, 2018 around 22:53

Paul MaudDib
May 2, 2006

"Tell me of your home world, Usul"


taels posted:

So I've had this xb271hu for about a month and lately been noticing what appears to be SEVERE bob in the lower right corner. Is this assumption correct? Here's a pic in a dark room gently caress you my desk is filthy

Edit don't think thumb is working so here's a link
https://m.imgur.com/a/vPxkr

If you mean the blue blob 2.5" from the right, that's not normal (assuming it's not just an internal reflection of your lens from the blue LED).

The big brown glow emanating from the right corner? That's backlight bleed, that looks pretty bad but a general statement it's inherent to all IPS monitors to some degree (and particularly to thin-bezel models like the XB271HU/PG279Q - AFAIK there are no fat-bezel GSync monitors on the market anymore, though).

On my X34, I personally notice it when starting up a game (particularly if running in pillarbox mode/2560x1440) but once in game I don't notice it. YMMV based on your own vision/games - if you play a lot of space sims or something it may be more annoying.

taels
Oct 19, 2012

K:CID:X


Paul MaudDib posted:

If you mean the blue blob 2.5" from the right, that's not normal (assuming it's not just an internal reflection of your lens from the blue LED).

The big brown glow emanating from the right corner? That's backlight bleed, that looks pretty bad but a general statement it's inherent to all IPS monitors to some degree (and particularly to thin-bezel models like the XB271HU/PG279Q - AFAIK there are no fat-bezel GSync monitors on the market anymore, though).

On my X34, I personally notice it when starting up a game (particularly if running in pillarbox mode/2560x1440) but once in game I don't notice it. YMMV based on your own vision/games - if you play a lot of space sims or something it may be more annoying.

Ok, duly noted. As you said that seems to be on the bad side correct, I purchased the monitor one month two weeks ago at microcenter. I originally had the AOC AG271UG but returned it after a few days as the thread swayed me more in the high refresh department, something I think I kind of regret not regardless. Is this case worth contacting microcenter?

They gave me the option of purchasing an extended warranty through them at a later date since I wasn't interested at the time, maybe I can use that to get model with less blb? Not sure what the move is here but it's noticeable enough that I actually have been closing the blinds to use the computer as I thought it was glare/ somehow that helps? But i'd rather not sit in the dark all day.
Oh well maybe I'll return it and get an ultra wide my recent foray into kingdom come is making me want the panoramic view.

edit: i didn't even notice that blue blob, that's the numlock key on my filco being reflected lol.

taels fucked around with this message at Feb 20, 2018 around 22:46

Risky
May 18, 2003



Dell has the Alienware 34 inch widescreen for 850 for presidents day sale.

Problem is, I have a GTX 770 and it's impossible to find a better card at this point. Can I use that with that monitor if I'm not gaming?

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Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!


Risky posted:

Dell has the Alienware 34 inch widescreen for 850 for presidents day sale.

Problem is, I have a GTX 770 and it's impossible to find a better card at this point. Can I use that with that monitor if I'm not gaming?

The GTX 770 has G-SYNC but of course you can use it as a regular monitor if you don't want to game with it. You can also try to game on it, you may just get some low frame rates.

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