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starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"


Ramrod XTreme

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

You can either go for one of the aforementioned gaming monitors or you can forgo Gsync and get one of the cheap Korean 1440/27"/IPS monitors that can be overclocked to 100Hz or so and have terrible stands, they are usually on ebay or your local equivalent thereof. Other than that you could settle for a 60Hz/1440/27"/IPS monitor from any number of manufacturers. I haven't seen any monitors with the combo of 75Hz, IPS, 27" and 1440.

Okay, thanks.

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Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017



Subjunctive posted:

Thanks, that is very interesting. Can Windows treat it like 2 (3?) displays so you can full-screen a game and still have a browser or whatever beside it?

i wonder if nvidia control panel thing can do that?

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

*~*~ CONJURE ~*~ ~*~* FOOD *~*~*


Paul MaudDib posted:

If you really want a 24" GSync monitor the S2417DG probably makes the most sense, just drive it at 1080p.

It's 1440p, won't that make it look like rear end? Isn't that a big no-no when it comes to LCD/LED displays (running it at anything except the native res)?

DrDork posted:

Yeah, the powers that be decided that "real" GSync monitors start at 27" 1440p and go up from there, leaving you with comparatively limited 1080p options.

Both Acer and ASUS have been trying to do a little better with customer support lately, but you're still strongly recommended to buy from a retailer with a good return policy, like Amazon or a brick-and-mortar that you can just walk it back to. Most of these panels come without noticeable problems these days, which generally means that you can figure out within the first 15 minutes whether or not you're gonna be looking into a return.

As for FPS, don't worry about it. If you can only push 130 but the panel supports 180 or 240, it'll appear quite smooth without you having to do anything. Where things get janky is the other way around: if you're trying to push 200 FPS but your panel only supports 144, you have to remember to enable GSync Fast Sync. And then, of course, if you're struggling to push 40 FPS or something, that's where GSync really shines by smoothing everything out and making it feel like you're playing at a much higher FPS than you actually are.

You could certainly set the monitor to a lower Hz than its native, but there's literally no reason to ever do so unless you get one of the 180Hz monitors and are specifically targeting a multiple-of-24 for video reasons (then you'd set it to 168Hz).

Thanks for the info, good stuff. I live in a medium-sized town so my options for brick-and-mortar are Best Buy and Walmart. Looks like both carry the ASUS PG248Q, so I guess that's what I'll get. Should I buy an extra warranty (BB's is $50 for 4 years)? A lot of the reviews on Newegg say that theirs failed or started having problems after several months.

e: I think it comes with a DP cable, but if I wanted to buy something high-quality, what would you recommend? The PC parts thread pointed me to Monoprice stuff when I did my new build last year, I checked them out and they only have basic DP cables, nothing too fancy. Found this one on amazon, would that be acceptable?

e≤: BB also carries the AW2518H, I think I'd rather pay extra for allegedly extra quality. I'd just need to have them order it for me.

Ofecks fucked around with this message at May 22, 2018 around 03:32

DrDork
Dec 29, 2003
commanding officer of the Army of Dorkness

Ofecks posted:

Should I buy an extra warranty (BB's is $50 for 4 years)? A lot of the reviews on Newegg say that theirs failed or started having problems after several months.

Nah. The ASUS warranty is for several years, anyhow, even if ASUS isn't great at actually providing warranty support, so any infant mortality issues will have cropped up well before then. Also, many credit cards have a feature that will automatically give you an extra year of warranty on anything you buy with it, so you might want to dig through your card's benefits policies and see if you have one.

Ofecks posted:

e: I think it comes with a DP cable, but if I wanted to buy something high-quality, what would you recommend?

Thread correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember a lot of people having issues with the Monoprice cables. The Amazon Basic ones are generally fine, but honestly there's not really a need to replace the pack-in one unless you just want to have something hanging around as a backup. DP cables either work or they don't; the extra quality of more expensive ones just hopefully means they work for longer, and/or they bothered to actually do the pin 20 spec correctly.

SpaceRangerJoe
Dec 24, 2003

The little hand says it's time to rock and roll.

I'm looking for a 27" gaming monitor and it's down to the Acer XB271HU or the Dell S2716DG. I don't mean to beat this horse into oblivion, but I'm bad at monitors and want to make sure I get what's best for me.

If I don't care about the color accuracy, is there a good reason to spend the extra money on the Acer with IPS? This is going to be replacing a 10+ year old Samsung, so anything will be a huge improvement for me.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

If you keep your monitors that long, you should really get the best monitor you can, and weigh the cost as spread out over time. It's how I justified my 3418DW buy - it's not a 4K screen, but it's way better than the 2412M I'd used since 2012 and will be way easier to "feed" in the coming years.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

WolfDad is Best Dad.


SpaceRangerJoe posted:

I'm looking for a 27" gaming monitor and it's down to the Acer XB271HU or the Dell S2716DG. I don't mean to beat this horse into oblivion, but I'm bad at monitors and want to make sure I get what's best for me.

If I don't care about the color accuracy, is there a good reason to spend the extra money on the Acer with IPS? This is going to be replacing a 10+ year old Samsung, so anything will be a huge improvement for me.

IPS just looks better in general, so personally I'd go with the IPS one.

SpaceRangerJoe
Dec 24, 2003

The little hand says it's time to rock and roll.

I have 2x24"s now and I was considering the 3418DW for a while as a replacement for the dual screen setup. I have a 1070ti and was worried about frame rates on newer games. I also read several pages back that some older games don't like that ultra wide resolution, which would be a bummer.

Khorne
May 1, 2002

Goonstone Champ x2

SpaceRangerJoe posted:

I'm looking for a 27" gaming monitor and it's down to the Acer XB271HU or the Dell S2716DG. I don't mean to beat this horse into oblivion, but I'm bad at monitors and want to make sure I get what's best for me.

If I don't care about the color accuracy, is there a good reason to spend the extra money on the Acer with IPS? This is going to be replacing a 10+ year old Samsung, so anything will be a huge improvement for me.
IPS is easier to read and looks way better for pretty much everything. I don't care much about color accuracy either, but at this point I will only program and read stuff on IPS screens.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007

"it's a bot! it's a bot!!", i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob


Subjunctive posted:

Yeah, I saw one of their 49Ē monstrosities at a convention. It seems silly, and yet oddly compelling.

Was it this one by any chance? It's ridiculous, although I'll admit it looks interesting, just not $700 interesting.

TerminalSaint
Apr 20, 2007

Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?


College Slice

insidius posted:

It does have picture by picture with both inputs which allows you to have two 1920x1080 windows displaying separate sources which I do hear some people like.

This is handy for playing my Switch when the wife is using the TV, while still keeping my computer usable.

Edit:
Holy hell we have eerily similar setups:

TerminalSaint fucked around with this message at May 24, 2018 around 02:14

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

Careful now


Cybernetic Crumb

Atomizer posted:

Was it this one by any chance? It's ridiculous, although I'll admit it looks interesting, just not $700 interesting.

I thought the horizontal was higher res, but maybe. It was just showing a photo crawl, so it was hard to tell.

Lockback
Sep 2, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.


SpaceRangerJoe posted:

I'm looking for a 27" gaming monitor and it's down to the Acer XB271HU or the Dell S2716DG. I don't mean to beat this horse into oblivion, but I'm bad at monitors and want to make sure I get what's best for me.

If I don't care about the color accuracy, is there a good reason to spend the extra money on the Acer with IPS? This is going to be replacing a 10+ year old Samsung, so anything will be a huge improvement for me.

I have the Acer and would recommend it, a buddy has the Dell and I think its also really nice. I don't think you'll make a "bad" choice here, do you want a monitor that looks slightly nicer (I think the Dell TN panels are not as bad as some on this board do) or is slightly cheaper?

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003

YEAH

LICK MY ASS

BITCH


I have the XB271HU TN and itís actually really nice. Iím using it as a secondary monitor to my x34 but Iíve never really had issues with viewing angles and such. Not sure if the Dell has the same or similar panel but for around $300 during the best times it seems like a steal.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Were there any actual non-HDR 4K 120hz+ displays announced, as in model numbers and everything, or was it just alluded that they're coming? Trying to figure this out on Google, I keep running in the two HDR ones from Acer and Asus.

eames
May 9, 2009



Nvidia appears to be the driving force behind those monitors and HDR10 was one of their spec requirements. These are their flagship G-Sync monitors that'll launch together with their new generation of GPUs.

https://www.geforce.com/whats-new/a...ced-at-ces-2017

I'd hope that you could disable HDR and use them as normal SDR screens if money is no object and you don't want to sear your retinas with 1000 nits in a dark room. I'm sure cheaper SDR models will become available in the next months/years but I haven't seen any announcements yet.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"


SpaceRangerJoe posted:

I'm looking for a 27" gaming monitor and it's down to the Acer XB271HU or the Dell S2716DG. I don't mean to beat this horse into oblivion, but I'm bad at monitors and want to make sure I get what's best for me.

If I don't care about the color accuracy, is there a good reason to spend the extra money on the Acer with IPS? This is going to be replacing a 10+ year old Samsung, so anything will be a huge improvement for me.

The S2716DG can be had for $350 today with a coupon code if it's all about money. I'd personally go for the Acer if you're going for mix use. I have the Dell but somewhere near 95% of it's use is gaming so the IPS benefits aren't as great.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/222722029629

SpaceRangerJoe
Dec 24, 2003

The little hand says it's time to rock and roll.

That price will probably seal the deal on the Dell. For that price, I can live with not perfect. It will certainly be an improvement for now.

I swear that AW3418DW could be had for closer to 1100 a little while back. Am I mis-remembering?

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

SpaceRangerJoe posted:

That price will probably seal the deal on the Dell. For that price, I can live with not perfect. It will certainly be an improvement for now.

I swear that AW3418DW could be had for closer to 1100 a little while back. Am I mis-remembering?

Bought mine for $999 new (plus tax) at Micro Center.

pigdog
Apr 23, 2004


That Dell for $350 is ridiculous. I had one (when it cost $800), returned it and ended up with IPS Asus PG279Q which is fine, but I would've kept the Dell if it hadn't had dead pixels.

It didn't have nearly as good view angles as IPS displays, particularly vertically, but the sweet spot is still ~4 inches tall when sitting it front of it, and perfectly fine for gaming. The panel speed difference I think was noticeable.

SpaceRangerJoe
Dec 24, 2003

The little hand says it's time to rock and roll.

That ebay link said sold out. I found another for $399, but shipping was about $45. Dell has them on their website for $399 with free shipping. I'll probably just go for that unless I find a good ebay deal.

I'll keep dreaming about that 3418DW!

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

*~*~ CONJURE ~*~ ~*~* FOOD *~*~*


Been reading some not-so-good things about Win10 1803 and gsync. Specifically it does not work in windowed fullscreen right now. That's what I use to game currently so I think I'll hold off on a new monitor until MS/Nvidia fix that.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

SpaceRangerJoe posted:

That ebay link said sold out. I found another for $399, but shipping was about $45. Dell has them on their website for $399 with free shipping. I'll probably just go for that unless I find a good ebay deal.

I'll keep dreaming about that 3418DW!

Amazon has the ASUS SWIFT 34" UW for $999 at the moment, but it's only 100Hz: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01C83BE6U

The reason people spend extra for the X34p and 3418DW is the seamless/guaranteed 120Hz capability.

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003

YEAH

LICK MY ASS

BITCH


Hereís the dell monitor for $400 with a $100 gift card.

https://slickdeals.net/f/11627475-2...rd-400-free-s-h

Lackmaster
Mar 1, 2011


Daaang I was looking for the 24 inch of that dell but at that price I might just do the 27...

SpaceRangerJoe
Dec 24, 2003

The little hand says it's time to rock and roll.

VulgarandStupid posted:

Hereís the dell monitor for $400 with a $100 gift card.

https://slickdeals.net/f/11627475-2...rd-400-free-s-h

You are the best!

Lockback
Sep 2, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.


Lackmaster posted:

Daaang I was looking for the 24 inch of that dell but at that price I might just do the 27...

Get a 27", you'll be really happy you did. For 16:9 I actively dislike bigger unless you are further from your monitor than is normal, but 27" is dramatically better than 24.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013



Yeah I just updated to a 27" and its great, a perfect size for desk use.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012



Fallen Rib

I've always found 32" 16:9 or 30" 16:10 the perfect size but I'm a freak.

Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.


eames posted:

Nvidia appears to be the driving force behind those monitors and HDR10 was one of their spec requirements. These are their flagship G-Sync monitors that'll launch together with their new generation of GPUs.

https://www.geforce.com/whats-new/a...ced-at-ces-2017

I'd hope that you could disable HDR and use them as normal SDR screens if money is no object and you don't want to sear your retinas with 1000 nits in a dark room. I'm sure cheaper SDR models will become available in the next months/years but I haven't seen any announcements yet.
HDr >>> 144hz

Fight me nerds

Truga
May 4, 2014


Lipstick Apathy

i'm hype for HDR VR screens. Current ones are pretty good but hdr would be insanely cool

big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Eat Shit and Die

Lipstick Apathy

Malcolm XML posted:

HDr >>> 144hz

Fight me nerds

HDR is absolutely a game-changer IMO. When I bought my OLED TV it ruined going to the movies until I found out about the Dolby theaters AMC does

Scott Forstall
Aug 16, 2003
i am a golem of shit, come to life.
i am fueled by piss. please pee in my mouth.

i just upgraded from a 2011-era 23" TN 60hz display to a pg279q and wowowow its good* even paired with my old 970. Nvidia could release new cards any time now and that'd be great.


*once I found where all the settings are that needed to be changed.

KoB
Apr 30, 2009


Monitor adjacent - does anyone here have any experience with monitor mounts that would fit an Acer x34 in the middle and two 28" 16:9 monitors on either side? Im looking for a desk clamp style.

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Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

Careful now


Cybernetic Crumb

When I looked at that sort of setup before, I ended up at the conclusion that I was just going to have to get 3 separate desk-clamp arms, IIRC.

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