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TheJeffers
Jan 31, 2007



Acer's XB273K is a 4K, wide-gamut IPS display with a 144-Hz refresh rate and DisplayHDR 400 certification (basically the VESA "breathe on a mirror" test for a decent display, not real HDR). It's still $1300.

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VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009



TheJeffers posted:

Acer's XB273K is a 4K, wide-gamut IPS display with a 144-Hz refresh rate and DisplayHDR 400 certification (basically the VESA "breathe on a mirror" test for a decent display, not real HDR). It's still $1300.

Hm, That's basically what I'm looking for but I can't find it for sale anywhere. I still feel like we must be 6 months from having a lot of high refresh rate 4k monitors dropping the price of everything.

Lemma
Aug 18, 2010


K8.0 posted:

DVI is a dead spec. HDMI and DisplayPort are the two relevant specs, and HDMI is really the winner because it's used for everything

If you want no tearing and no input lag, gsync (or freesync) is your only option. That said, vsync on with a 144hz monitor and a framerate below 144 is a pretty minimal amount of lag, so in that specific case you'd have a good experience on any old 144hz display.

It's really a matter of how much you want to spend, how long you want to keep it, and what you plan on doing with it. Monitors are honestly in a pretty lovely place right now as a gamer, because Gsync IPS displays are extremely expensive and only really come in 2 worthwhile variants, but are also far better than anything else for gaming.


Ah, from what I read it sounded like HDMI's main weak point was it's limited at 60hz at high (read: 1080p) resolutions; if I understand correctly DVI can go up to 144hz at 1080p (my target resolution, current monitor is 60hz at 720p max), as can DP, and my card supports both. I'm not in a rush but if I found two similar 144 hz monitors and one with DVI support and no DP was appreciably cheaper, still wouldn't be worth it, in your mind?

ActionExpress
Dec 28, 2002


A Strange Aeon posted:


Acer XB271HU bmiprz 27" WQHD (2560x1440) NVIDIA G-SYNC IPS Monitor, (Display Port & HDMI Port, 144Hz)


I just picked one of these up to pair with a 1080ti and its great so far. Previous monitor was the Benq XL2420G 1080p 144hz Gsync. Ended up buying from Acer's refurbished website, $494 out the door which I don't think was a horrible price. The 1080ti will still push high frames @ 1440p 144hz depending on the game and settings you choose, while at 4K you wont always be getting a consistent 60fps on high/ultra settings.

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!


Lemma posted:

Ah, from what I read it sounded like HDMI's main weak point was it's limited at 60hz at high (read: 1080p) resolutions; if I understand correctly DVI can go up to 144hz at 1080p (my target resolution, current monitor is 60hz at 720p max), as can DP, and my card supports both. I'm not in a rush but if I found two similar 144 hz monitors and one with DVI support and no DP was appreciably cheaper, still wouldn't be worth it, in your mind?

That's only true for older HDMI standards. They keep upgrading it so as long as you have a newer monitor and video card you should be able to push higher res and refresh rate. For example HDMI 2.0 can do 4k at 60hz and HDMI 2.1 is 10K at 120hz. That said there's been more bandwidth available over display port for longer, and Dual-Link DVI can handle quite a bit (more than the specifications on wikipedia suggest at least).

EssOEss
Oct 23, 2006
128-bit approved

I want to buy a monitor that is quite heavy - 25 kg. I want to put it on my desk on a monitor stand that allows me to easily turn it around 180 degrees (so it faces people on the other side of the table). The monitor has 100x100 and 200x200 VESA mount compatibility.

All table stands I have been able to find are for tiny lightweight monitors - only wall mounts seem to go up to this weight class. There are freestanding "TV stands" that seem to support higher weight but none that I have found seem to have 180 degrees of rotation.

Surely there must be some manufacturer that does a product like this, right? I am in Europe, which can also complicate matters in terms of delivery.

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VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009



EssOEss posted:

I want to buy a monitor that is quite heavy - 20-25 kg. I want to put it on my desk on a monitor stand that allows me to easily turn it around 180 degrees (so it faces people on the other side of the table). The monitor has 100x100 and 200x200 VESA mount compatibility.

All table stands I have been able to find are for tiny lightweight monitors - only wall mounts seem to go up to this weight class. There are freestanding "TV stands" that seem to support higher weight but none that I have found seem to have 180 degrees of rotation.

Surely there must be some manufacturer that does a product like this, right? I am in Europe, which can also complicate matters in terms of delivery.

Please link the 55lb monitor that you're buying because I can't imagine it. It's not a CRT is it? That's about how much an 8 year old weighs.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

EssOEss posted:

I want to buy a monitor that is quite heavy - 25 kg. I want to put it on my desk on a monitor stand that allows me to easily turn it around 180 degrees (so it faces people on the other side of the table). The monitor has 100x100 and 200x200 VESA mount compatibility.

All table stands I have been able to find are for tiny lightweight monitors - only wall mounts seem to go up to this weight class. There are freestanding "TV stands" that seem to support higher weight but none that I have found seem to have 180 degrees of rotation.

Surely there must be some manufacturer that does a product like this, right? I am in Europe, which can also complicate matters in terms of delivery.

The Dell P4317Q is a 43" 4K IPS display that has multi-display capability (meaning you can split it into four 1920x1080 subsections) and weighs (according to the tech specs) 24.4kg. It also has 100x100 *and* 200x200 mount holes.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/sho...tor-accessories

Of course, this is just a Dell-badged version of the LG original, which is cheaper but doesn't have Dell's warranty: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...N82E16824025629

EssOEss
Oct 23, 2006
128-bit approved

Yeah, exactly - that's the one. I am trying to find a stand for it.

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VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009



e: Ohhh that's the one. That's crazy. I looked on amazon for a bit but couldn't find anything rated for 25kg. I would get one rated for a little less and just crank up the tension if it were me. Or just get a rigid one and place it on a lazy susan type of thing so you can spin it around to show clients or w/e.

EssOEss
Oct 23, 2006
128-bit approved

Oh, a lazy susan type of thing is an interesting idea. Might work as a backup solution if I can't find a ready made stand!

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

EssOEss posted:

Oh, a lazy susan type of thing is an interesting idea. Might work as a backup solution if I can't find a ready made stand!

Took a fair bit of Googling, but ~voila~: https://www.amazon.com/Master-Mount...t/dp/B00MFVIHPC

Unfortunately, the caveat is that it has a limit of 120 degrees of swivel, which would mean you'd have to offset it on the desk, keeping it slightly angled toward you initially and then having the ability to angle it toward the people on the other side of the table.

Saukkis
May 16, 2003



EssOEss posted:

I want to buy a monitor that is quite heavy - 25 kg. I want to put it on my desk on a monitor stand that allows me to easily turn it around 180 degrees (so it faces people on the other side of the table). The monitor has 100x100 and 200x200 VESA mount compatibility.

I have a Lindy desk pole and short monitor arm that should be able to handle what you want. The monitor arm sviwels 180 degrees so point it to the side to manage forward and back. The desk pole has models with clamp or it can bolt through the desk. You may need a bolted model so the monitor isn't too far away in forward position. Well, the official weight rating isn't that high, but if all else fails just glue the up-down sviwel static.

LINDY 400mm Pole
LINDY LCD Bracket

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EssOEss
Oct 23, 2006
128-bit approved

The Lindy is rated for 6 kg. I fear that would just end up with a cracked monitor on the floor. However, the Master Mounts looks pretty much ideal! Thanks for the help - that's a good find indeed! Now I need to figure out whether I can get it in Europe without paying $120 for import taxes.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

Make your move...'cause mine's gonna be ugly.

EssOEss posted:

The Lindy is rated for 6 kg. I fear that would just end up with a cracked monitor on the floor. However, the Master Mounts looks pretty much ideal! Thanks for the help - that's a good find indeed! Now I need to figure out whether I can get it in Europe without paying $120 for import taxes.

This eBay seller looks pretty internationally-friendly: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Master-Mou...75.c10#shpCntId

Shipping costs to the UK looked to be ~$24, before those scary import charges.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad


ActionExpress posted:

I just picked one of these up to pair with a 1080ti and its great so far. Previous monitor was the Benq XL2420G 1080p 144hz Gsync. Ended up buying from Acer's refurbished website, $494 out the door which I don't think was a horrible price. The 1080ti will still push high frames @ 1440p 144hz depending on the game and settings you choose, while at 4K you wont always be getting a consistent 60fps on high/ultra settings.

So the monitor was the area where I thought I might be able to save a bit by going refurbished--I've been talked back from the 4K ledge I think, and the XB271HU seems like what I've "settled" on. My only question is if buying a refurbished monitor has any huge risks--it would seem like if it comes and doesn't work, I have 90 days to return it or get it fixed. A monitor doesn't seem like something that will suddenly stop functioning properly, if my current monitor which I've had for ~6+ years is any indication. And if there's something wrong with it, I feel like I should be able to tell right away, unlike, say, some internal component where I'd have no idea it was used for 24/7 bitcoin mining or something. So saving a hundred bucks with a refurb seems like a relatively reasonable course of action, but this seems like the thread to ask about refurbs vs brand new monitors, so I'm asking!

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot

That monitor and its ilk had lots of backlight bleed issues early in production, but at this point they are generally fairly good. Just give it a good inspection - solid black screen, dark room, see if the backlight bleed is acceptable to you and if any pixels are stuck. Solid white screen, give it a looking over for dead/stuck pixels. Aside from that, it is what it is. Higher end monitors generally last longer than you feel like using them.

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

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VelociBacon posted:

Hm, That's basically what I'm looking for but I can't find it for sale anywhere. I still feel like we must be 6 months from having a lot of high refresh rate 4k monitors dropping the price of everything.

The XB273K will launch Q4 2018, or so they claim. Availability early on will probably not be great. I really want one, but I hope TFTCentral is quick to review it though because I'm sure as hell not spending $1300 without seeing a very thorough review.

There's apparently going to be a freesync variant too (XV273K) which has a stated MSRP of "only" $900. $400 G-sync tax

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ActionExpress
Dec 28, 2002


A Strange Aeon posted:

So the monitor was the area where I thought I might be able to save a bit by going refurbished--I've been talked back from the 4K ledge I think, and the XB271HU seems like what I've "settled" on. My only question is if buying a refurbished monitor has any huge risks--it would seem like if it comes and doesn't work, I have 90 days to return it or get it fixed. A monitor doesn't seem like something that will suddenly stop functioning properly, if my current monitor which I've had for ~6+ years is any indication. And if there's something wrong with it, I feel like I should be able to tell right away, unlike, say, some internal component where I'd have no idea it was used for 24/7 bitcoin mining or something. So saving a hundred bucks with a refurb seems like a relatively reasonable course of action, but this seems like the thread to ask about refurbs vs brand new monitors, so I'm asking!

You can add a 2 year warranty ($55) or a 4 year warranty ($100) at checkout if you want piece of mind after 90 days: https://acerrecertified.com/acer-pr...xb271hu-bmiprz/ (scroll down to related products)
If you bought brand new the warranty for Acer monitors is 3 years. On Amazon for me it was $650 after tax, I was out the door at Acer for $494.99.

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nnnotime
Sep 30, 2001

Hesitate, and you will be lost.

BIG HEADLINE posted:

The Dell P4317Q is a 43" 4K IPS display that has multi-display capability (meaning you can split it into four 1920x1080 subsections) and weighs (according to the tech specs) 24.4kg. It also has 100x100 *and* 200x200 mount holes.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/sho...tor-accessories

Of course, this is just a Dell-badged version of the LG original, which is cheaper but doesn't have Dell's warranty: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...N82E16824025629
I bought this Dell model a few months back, mainly because I wanted a giant screen. So far the picture quality is very good, and I did not notice any dead pixels. For gaming I'm just using a GTX980 and the FPS games look good on the screen. So do any youtube HD videos running at 60 FPS.

I'm under-utilizing the features in this 43" monitor, as I'm not using the PIP (picture-in-picture) ability or the built-in speakers. The monitor is pretty heavy, and also is not very adjustable. Though the monitor has a stand you can only swivel the monitor facing more upward or downward. I had to rig up an old file cabinet in front of my computer desk to situate the monitor just right.

As discussed it's ideal to mount this monitor on a heavy-duty monitor stand, or mount it on a wall.

In hindsight I would have preferred this Dell-badged monitor did _not_ have the speakers as that would have reduced the weight.

Also it took me a while to get the color and screen brightness levels just right. If you are very picky about screen quality you should probably find a place to test it out first, or check any review videos for this monitor that go indepth into the monitor calibration.

Capn Beeb
Jun 29, 2003



Y'all got a recommendation for a 24" 4k HDR monitor for an Nvidia user that doesn't really care a whole lot about Gsync and primarily wants a spiffy screen for PS4 games? Like Gsync is cool and all but I'm just shrug about it

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Lemma
Aug 18, 2010


Rexxed posted:

That's only true for older HDMI standards. They keep upgrading it so as long as you have a newer monitor and video card you should be able to push higher res and refresh rate. For example HDMI 2.0 can do 4k at 60hz and HDMI 2.1 is 10K at 120hz. That said there's been more bandwidth available over display port for longer, and Dual-Link DVI can handle quite a bit (more than the specifications on wikipedia suggest at least).

OK, thanks for the clarification! It looks like most of the 144hz monitors in my price range have all three options anyway, so refresh rate shouldn't be an issue.



So hitherto there's a particular deal on newegg that seems pretty ideal for me: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...002&ignorebbr=1
MSI Optix G24C.

Now I realize this model has Freesynch, which only works with AMD GPUs, and I an running a GTX 1060. Does anyone have experience with Gsynch/Freesynch? I've never been clear on exactly what those features do and how they differ from V-synch. Do the various *synchs do a good job of preventing tearing without causing lag? I figure since the price seems so good that I can probably live without the use of Gsynch, and just rely on in-game FPS cap to ensure smooth input with minimal tearing.

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005
Weclome 2 teh Internt

Capn Beeb posted:

Y'all got a recommendation for a 24" 4k HDR monitor for an Nvidia user that doesn't really care a whole lot about Gsync and primarily wants a spiffy screen for PS4 games? Like Gsync is cool and all but I'm just shrug about it

Itís my understanding that even at 27Ē 4K is overkill given your distance from the monitor versus the size of the screen versus what your eye can actually tell the difference between.

https://stari.co/tv-monitor-viewing-distance-calculator

Punch in your resolution and screen size and see if itís worth it for your situation. Punching in numbers shows the max beneficial distance is around three feet or so, so yeah.

Iíve got a question myself though:

Any recommendations on a 1440p Ultrawide 120hz+ with GSYNC? Iíve got a 27Ē 60hz 1440p Korean special from 2013 so something bigger would be rad. My 1080 Ti is currently wasted.

Capn Beeb
Jun 29, 2003



tehinternet posted:

Itís my understanding that even at 27Ē 4K is overkill given your distance from the monitor versus the size of the screen versus what your eye can actually tell the difference between.

https://stari.co/tv-monitor-viewing-distance-calculator

Punch in your resolution and screen size and see if itís worth it for your situation. Punching in numbers shows the max beneficial distance is around three feet or so, so yeah.

Iíve got a question myself though:

Any recommendations on a 1440p Ultrawide 120hz+ with GSYNC? Iíve got a 27Ē 60hz 1440p Korean special from 2013 so something bigger would be rad. My 1080 Ti is currently wasted.

This chart is exactly what I've been looking for, thanks!

Though it does tell me I'm within range of benefiting from a 4k monitor, welp

foutre
Sep 4, 2011

RIP ZEEZ


Re: ultrawide monitors, are there any good options with 1440p and ~80-100 Hz for under $600? I don't really care about G-Sync, this would mostly be used for work with occasional gaming. I've found a whole bunch of other ones with very mixed reviews.

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005
Weclome 2 teh Internt

Capn Beeb posted:

This chart is exactly what I've been looking for, thanks!

Though it does tell me I'm within range of benefiting from a 4k monitor, welp

Glad it helped; I was talking to somebody while I was typing stuff in, I could have totally misread it, glad it will work for you!

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Whitest Russian
Nov 23, 2013


There's a sale going on for some 2k 27" IPS monitors:

Acer Predator XB271HU bmiprz 27" for $599.99
Acer CB271HU bmidprx 27Ē for $219.99 (after promocode)

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