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Shipon
Nov 7, 2005


Ihmemies posted:

I have a 32" 1440p 165Hz VA display now.

So will there be coming "the same, but on 4K" versions anytime soon?

I understand that displayport bandwidth is at least one problem with those 4K displays. I guess that issue is still not fixed in latest 3000 series?

It's a limitation of DisplayPort 1.4 (4k120 is the highest you can go without any compression), though the 3000 series supports display stream compression which will let you to get to 4k144 with basically zero loss visually

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Icept
Jul 11, 2001



Sorta want to grab a 27GN950 just to do 1080P fullscreen integer scaling... I think I've caught brainworms please send help

Nomyth
Mar 15, 2013

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Ihmemies posted:

I have a 32" 1440p 165Hz VA display now.

So will there be coming "the same, but on 4K" versions anytime soon?

I understand that displayport bandwidth is at least one problem with those 4K displays. I guess that issue is still not fixed in latest 3000 series?

Not ultrawide, right? If you're OK with IPS, then this is your year


Nomyth posted:

Looks like this got missed, so I'll field this one:
There are a bunch of them coming out this year, and this TFT Central article is worth a read to get an idea of some of the models on the way: https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/blog/when-will-the-first-32-sized-monitors-arrive-with-4k-and-high-refresh-rate-the-race-is-on/

By the way, Asus has not one, but three different monitors in that spec coming out

DoesNotCompute
Apr 10, 2006


Nomyth posted:

Not ultrawide, right? If you're OK with IPS, then this is your year

I was very excited about this until I saw the prices.

DoesNotCompute
Apr 10, 2006


TheFluff posted:

Work saw fit to provide me with a new iPhone 12, so now I have my first very own OLED screen. It... kinda sucks? Like, it has more PPI than my old iPhone 8 but it's not noticeably sharper. I suppose the contrast is better but I don't notice that very much. What I do notice though is a very obvious and unpleasant color shifting effect that appears as soon as you look at the screen even slightly off axis. It's not like the contrast loss on old TN garbage, instead there's a pronounced hue shift, mostly towards blue. Are all OLED's like this or is this just an Apple thing?

It's funny because a research project I'm working on facilitated me getting an xps 15 with the 4k OLED panel and now I'm a crackhead fiending for that level of black on every other screen I own.

Mofabio
May 15, 2003
(y - mx)*(1/(inf))*(PV/RT)*(2.718)*(V/I)

Hey, what do you fellas mainly watch with your monitors? I like to look at some webforums and sometimes go online shopping.

Still trying to online shop on my rectangle monitor for a square monitor. No luck so far.

pyrotek
May 21, 2004





Mofabio posted:

Hey, what do you fellas mainly watch with your monitors? I like to look at some webforums and sometimes go online shopping.

Still trying to online shop on my rectangle monitor for a square monitor. No luck so far.

Get two 16:9 monitors with tiny frames and set them up side by side vertically and wow! A big 18:16 monitor. You are welcome

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!



pyrotek posted:

Get two 16:9 monitors with tiny frames and set them up side by side vertically and wow! A big 18:16 monitor. You are welcome

I have this setup on one machine that just looks at a bunch of vms in a window. I got two dell 22" IPS 1920x1080 monitors and put them next to each other sideways (I think they were $150 from the outlet on sale together), so it's basically a 2160x1920 monitor with a couple of bezels down the middle. It's fine for my use case but hard to recommend for anyone who isn't just keeping an eye on stuff that's mostly static or that lets you drag windows around to make the split barely noticeable.

Ihmemies
Oct 6, 2012



Nomyth posted:

Not ultrawide, right? If you're OK with IPS, then this is your year

I don't like ultrawides too much. They're usually too small and cause extra problems with games.

Well one option is those 38" 3840x1600 panels but they are all IPS with bad contrast.

For some reason I like my VA panel a lot more than my old 2560x1600 IPS

Dunno what the main selling point of IPS displays are, faster pixel response and good color? But pricey and very poor contrast.

VA displays have so much more pop. The image is more impressive to look at.

Based on your reply I guess all the 4k high hz displays will be IPS only. Well, I can wait.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011


Newer VA panels are pretty good.

Are you comparing a new display to soma ancient 30" dell? If so, yeah, duh, the new one will most likely be better

Ihmemies
Oct 6, 2012



Wibla posted:

Newer VA panels are pretty good.

Are you comparing a new display to soma ancient 30" dell? If so, yeah, duh, the new one will most likely be better

Yes. Well what is wrong with the ancient 30" 2560x1600 IPS displays? The only downsides were low contrast and 60Hz, and new gaming IPS displays have even lower contrast...

Truga
May 4, 2014




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Ihmemies posted:

Yes. Well what is wrong with the ancient 30" 2560x1600 IPS displays? The only downsides were low contrast and 60Hz, and new gaming IPS displays have even lower contrast...

i'd probably still be using mine if it didn't die in late 2019 after working several hours a day for over 10 years

still waiting for any decent 32-34" 4k@120 solution lol

Ihmemies
Oct 6, 2012



Truga posted:

i'd probably still be using mine if it didn't die in late 2019 after working several hours a day for over 10 years

still waiting for any decent 32-34" 4k@120 solution lol

At this point the LG will push out smaller 4k120hz GSYNC oled tv's faster than actual display manufacturers will produce decent 32-34" 4k panels.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011


Ihmemies posted:

Yes. Well what is wrong with the ancient 30" 2560x1600 IPS displays? The only downsides were low contrast and 60Hz, and new gaming IPS displays have even lower contrast...

Beyond old age and older LCD technology - nothing? Older displays with CCFL backlights don't age well, but you don't really notice until you have a new monitor next to it

Truga
May 4, 2014




Lipstick Apathy

yeah CCFLs go yellow with age, but re-calibrating your monitor can fix that to quite a good degree i found

MonkeyFit
May 13, 2009


Ihmemies posted:

At this point the LG will push out smaller 4k120hz GSYNC oled tv's faster than actual display manufacturers will produce decent 32-34" 4k panels.

I'm extremely happy with my 55" OLED. I would have gotten a smaller size, but those were actually more expensive than the 55".

Ihmemies
Oct 6, 2012



They are supposed to release a 42" 4K 120Hz Gsync? oled TV this year. 48" is too big but 42" should be okay for my desktop. It will probably be not as easy to use as a regular monitor, and OLED panels require more frequent calibraton I guess it the different colored OLED thingys age at different pace. I have an i1 display Pro so that shouldn't be a bid deal. Burn-in might be a problem, might not.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Wibla posted:

Beyond old age and older LCD technology - nothing? Older displays with CCFL backlights don't age well, but you don't really notice until you have a new monitor next to it
I had my old CCFL displays going at 100% brightness, and was blinded by my new ones that were set to 30% from factory.

BurritoJustice
Oct 9, 2012



I've got a mate with an old U3014 and the whites look kinda like piss now. It's something your eyes adjust to though.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?


Mofabio posted:

Hey, what do you fellas mainly watch with your monitors? I like to look at some webforums and sometimes go online shopping.

I have 2x 1680x1050 20" displays mounted above a 2560x1440 34". The main display carries whatever I'm actively paying attention to, the upper left is where I put Slack, work email, and other work-related stuff I passively monitor. Upper right is for Discord, Hangouts, personal email, etc. in the same way, plus maybe a Youtube video or Twitch stream.

I want to upgrade my upper monitors but good 20" monitors aren't exactly common these days and I don't know if my mounting setup has room for 24" or larger unless they have really badly offset VESA holes.

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May 16, 2003

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wolrah posted:

I want to upgrade my upper monitors but good 20" monitors aren't exactly common these days and I don't know if my mounting setup has room for 24" or larger unless they have really badly offset VESA holes.

Have you considered upgrading your mounting setup? I got monitor stand with support for quad 27" for 50.

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