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I have a question about getting a triple display setup out of an AMD 5870 card. Right now, I have two monitors hooked up via the DVI ports. I have a TV that I want to hook up via HDMI. From what I've read, the 5870 does not support a DVI-DVI-HDMI configuration and so must use the DisplayPort in conjunction with the two DVI ports. My question is, what kind of adapter do I need to get an HDMI signal from the DisplayPort? I keep hearing all this stuff about active/passive adapters and I have no idea what to do about it. In addition, I think the 5870 has some weird idiosyncrasies with respect to how they implemented this triple display setup. Any thoughts or suggestions? EDIT: Also, let me know if there might be a better thread for this. I was unsure as to where to actually ask this. Thanks! unpurposed fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Dec 2, 2013 |
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unpurposed posted:I have a question about getting a triple display setup out of an AMD 5870 card. A basic Display port to HDMI cable will work. You should be able to just plug it in and presto. People run into problems when they want to go from X to Displayport, going from Displayport to X is generally pretty easy.
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That basic cable will NOT work. You need a DisplayPort Active Adapter. E: Like this one or this one with audio
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In other (potential) good news, less expensive 4k panels are in development for hopefully mid next year.
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I know that a TV as monitor is usually a terrible idea, but any thoughts on the Seiki SE39UY04? It's a 39" 4k TV for ~500 online, the big downside being it can only do 30 Hz at 4k. But since this is more for web and IDE and other text-heavy stuff, the fact that it would be a mediocre gaming monitor isn't a dealbreaker for me. Any thoughts? It's vastly more affordable than any monitor with that sort of size and DPI.
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The Insect Court posted:I know that a TV as monitor is usually a terrible idea, but any thoughts on the Seiki SE39UY04? It's a 39" 4k TV for ~500 online, the big downside being it can only do 30 Hz at 4k. But since this is more for web and IDE and other text-heavy stuff, the fact that it would be a mediocre gaming monitor isn't a dealbreaker for me. Any thoughts? It's vastly more affordable than any monitor with that sort of size and DPI. I bought one of these from Amazon at $520 (missed the $490 price drop by minutes) and used it for a few days. After the first day, I noticed some dust contamination and a dead pixel (but 1 out of 8.3 million ain't bad). My goal was to use mine for web work (Photoshop, PHP/HTML/CSS/JS scripting, FTP), but that 30Hz really added a noticeable input lag I wasn't expecting. Before buying, I figured it would be like using a PS/2 mouse set to 40Hz like back in the Windows 9x days where the cursor moved in a choppy fashion, but was otherwise quick and responsive. Nope. You really do finding yourself slowing down to make the cursor go where you want it. Ultimately, I was focusing too much brain power on controlling the cursor and not enough on my actual work. Going back to a 60Hz display felt like stepping out of a Kenworth and into a Porsche. Also, be aware that this isn't an IPS display. The good news is that it doesn't have a lot of the quirks that many cheap TN panels have, such as the white/off-white inversion when viewed from a steep angle--that doesn't happen on this. The bad news is that this really is designed to view photographic/film content from many feet away. A typical 4-5' desktop viewing distance will result in dimming on the left and right side of the screen. I didn't spend a ton of time tweaking the colors, but no matter what you do, you will find color reproduction to be a bit off. Blues can be a bit overblown while browns and yellows can be underrepresented. If you do get this monitor, don't be surprised if things look like rear end at first. When you get it set up, be sure to upgrade the firmware to gain backlight and fine color control. Then set color temperature to "Warm", sharpness to 0, color to 25-30, brightness and contrast to 50 or below, and reduce backlight to 75 or lower. Then be sure to run the Cleartype wizard, as this monitor has a BGR pixel layout instead of RGB like just about every other monitor made within the last ten years. Performing these steps will get it looking like something resembling a computer monitor and you won't burn out your retinas trying to use it for 8 hours straight. If you're a stockbroker or are someone who needs some sort of "mission control" display with tons of information crammed into A 39" space, you will absolutely love this TV. However, if you're a bit of a "quick draw" with the mouse like I am, you will feel held back by it. Ultimately, I decided to return it because I wasn't in love with it enough to do the whole back-and-forth with customer support to resolve the defects it had. Amazingly, Amazon gave me the fastest refund I've ever seen. I requested an RMA around 10:00 AM, got a shipping label immediately, dropped the package off at UPS at 12:30 PM and received a full refund by 8:30 that same night. Zorilla fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Dec 3, 2013 |
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The Insect Court posted:I know that a TV as monitor is usually a terrible idea, but any thoughts on the Seiki SE39UY04? It's a 39" 4k TV for ~500 online, the big downside being it can only do 30 Hz at 4k. But since this is more for web and IDE and other text-heavy stuff, the fact that it would be a mediocre gaming monitor isn't a dealbreaker for me. Any thoughts? It's vastly more affordable than any monitor with that sort of size and DPI. We need to get something about those damned Seikis in the OP, since the question comes up about every other page or so at this point. (Like just a quote of Zorilla's post, even!)
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So Amazon has the Dell U2412 at $266 right now with no tax and free shipping since I'm a Prime member. So basically $266 shipped for it total. Could it conceivably get any cheaper than that? I've seen it for $250 but that didn't include the tax or shipping.
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BitterAvatar posted:So Amazon has the Dell U2412 at $266 right now with no tax and free shipping since I'm a Prime member. So basically $266 shipped for it total. Short of having a Dell Corporate Account I doubt it. $259.99 is the record low according on Amazon to CamelCamelCamel.
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I've been running a Chromecast through my monitor, with my speakers plugging directly into the monitor - it was working great until my monitor died. I hosed up and got a new monitor without audio out. I was thinking about getting an HDMI switch like this instead of returning my monitor, but I'm a little confused how to get audio out of it and into my speakers - those red and white audio ports are inputs, right? Any help?
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No, those are analog audio outputs. You'd plug them in to an amp/receiver that then had speakers plugged in to it. If your monitor has no audio pass through, then your most reliable bet is probably just a cheap receiver with a couple of HDMI ports. Plug chromecast in to a port on the receiver, and it has speakers + HDMI out to monitor plugged in to it. You'll at least keep digital audio that way.
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Gwaihir posted:No, those are analog audio outputs. You'd plug them in to an amp/receiver that then had speakers plugged in to it. If your monitor has no audio pass through, then your most reliable bet is probably just a cheap receiver with a couple of HDMI ports. Plug chromecast in to a port on the receiver, and it has speakers + HDMI out to monitor plugged in to it. You'll at least keep digital audio that way. Fantastic, thanks! Seeing as how I only have cheapie speakers I'll look into that. If anyone knows of a decent I've it's be appreciated.
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Anyone know of a good comparison of various 120hz models? OP has one and it is an asus. gently caress asus.
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Belasarius posted:Anyone know of a good comparison of various 120hz models? OP has one and it is an asus. gently caress asus. I'm sure your feelings are extremely reasonable and have data rather than anecdotes behind them.
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Belasarius posted:Anyone know of a good comparison of various 120hz models? OP has one and it is an asus. gently caress asus. Asus makes the best one. That's why it's in the OP 
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Ruin Completely posted:I'm sure your feelings are extremely reasonable and have data rather than anecdotes behind them. I have a mathematical proof of Asus's evil but it is too long to post here. edit: Gwaihir posted:Asus makes the best one. That's why it's in the OP A monitor from 2010 is the best 120hz capable one? Belasarius fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Dec 3, 2013 |
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Belasarius posted:I have a mathematical proof of Asus's evil but it is too long to post here. The one that everyone likes now is ASUS VG248QE. Up to date, but still Asus. Sorry. According to this BENQ makes some as well, but I have no idea the quality or prices.
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So I got a Dell U2312HM from Newegg and it's the revision everyone hates, A00. However, what exactly is wrong with this revision? From what I read it seems like yellow tinting is the issue but I'm not noticing it. What exactly are the issues with this revision that would be worth my time RMAing it?
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Swartz posted:So I got a Dell U2312HM from Newegg and it's the revision everyone hates, A00. However, what exactly is wrong with this revision? From what I read it seems like yellow tinting is the issue but I'm not noticing it. Everyone has their own anecdotes, but if you don't see anything there's nothing to worry about really.
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Swartz posted:So I got a Dell U2312HM from Newegg and it's the revision everyone hates, A00. However, what exactly is wrong with this revision? From what I read it seems like yellow tinting is the issue but I'm not noticing it. Backlight bleed along the lower edge and/or corners was the number one complaint. I have a bunch of A00's (office) that don't have this problem or the yellowing problem so it's not as common as it appears online. Check yours in a dim room doing black screen or a movie, and see if it's noticeable enough to be annoying.
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Swartz posted:So I got a Dell U2312HM from Newegg and it's the revision everyone hates, A00. However, what exactly is wrong with this revision? From what I read it seems like yellow tinting is the issue but I'm not noticing it. I do know the U2412M saw a revision number reset recently, and apparently "revision A00" could now either mean it's really old, or really new. I don't know if the same has happened to the U2312HM. The problem with these newer, thinner, lightweight LED-backlit panels that is they can distort really easily during the manufacturing process, resulting in poor fit between the LCD subpanel and backlight box. Because of this, backlight bleed has been a systematic problem on pretty much any model of Dell IPS monitor ending in "M" (at least for me), so be on the lookout for that. Also pay attention for:
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My U2713HM has the wikipedia buzz (not at all loud at maximum, never hear it because I always use headphones) and crosshatching that I don't at all perceive unless I pull my face in real close and squint on off-whites and light greys only. It had the moderate bottom left/right BLB to begin with but it's nearly fully evaporated over the months I've been using it.
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TheRationalRedditor posted:My U2713HM has the wikipedia buzz (not at all loud at maximum, never hear it because I always use headphones) and crosshatching that I don't at all perceive unless I pull my face in real close and squint on off-whites and light greys only. It had the moderate bottom left/right BLB to begin with but it's nearly fully evaporated over the months I've been using it. The buzzing is usually caused by the inductor coil(s) on the T-CON board vibrating against the protective shield. I fixed this on my FIRST FSM-270YG by placing neoprene washers (from Home Depot) on the screw mounts to add extra clearance and sound dampening. After that, it went from noticeable and obnoxious to inaudible.
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Speaking of Asus, has anyone had any experience with the ASUS MX279H model? I'm looking at replacing my aging (and failing) Dell U22s and the Asus one looks so pretty. I am however also a little scared to buy a non-Dell LCD, so I was hoping someone would have a recommendation, for or against. I suppose I should add that I mostly play games and do "work" stuff, Office, terminal programs, i.e. desktop stuff, so no fancy color work or anything.
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My fifth replacement U2713HM came in from Dell today and it's the first one that actually has an acceptable amount of backlight bleed. It has the same dings and chips in the paint as every other replacement I've received, but they're small enough this time that I can cover it with silver marker and barely notice it. Then, I turned it on its side and heard loose crap rattling around on the inside. What the hell is going on at the depot that nobody is catching this kind of stuff? When I opened up the monitor (which is trivial on this model), it turned out to be one of the tiny screws that hold the top EM shield in place and not broken clips or anything indicating abuse, so that was easy to fix. I'm left wondering how that happened, though. Me finally getting a decent monitor would have been a happy end to a very long story, but of course this one has to have something wrong with it. This time, there's a pretty big color shift across the screen. Whites appear dingy and brown on the right side, and bluish on the left. I usually have a web browser on the left half of the screen and email or a text editor on the right, and it looks pretty bad with this problem. The temptation is to swap out subpanels since the colors were great on the old one and the backlight box is nice and straight on this one, but that would require disturbing the pristine tape. Once that happens, it's obvious someone's been in there. Edit: and wow, were my suspicions confirmed about this monitor looking a bit yellower compared to the old one when I put them side by side and displayed the all white screen on both in diagnostic mode (holding buttons 1+4). I couldn't capture it on camera, but the difference is stark. Even the "No Signal" OSD window is noticeably yellower. They're both revision A00 and manufactured within one month of each other (July and August 2013) Zorilla fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Dec 4, 2013 |
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Does Dell ship faster than quoted? I ordered a new monitor last week and they are saying a December 30th delivery date right now.
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SO I bought an Asus MX239H 23" LED IPS monitor from Amazon. It's pretty solid except for one minor issue. On the bottom right corner, the display appears a bit 'darkened' in comparison to the rest of the panel against white or colored backgrounds. Against a black background, there is definite backlight bleed, but that's to be expected with an IPS display. I've never had a display that didn't have some amount of bleed. Would the corner darkening be an issue caused by the backlight bleed? Or some other panel defect of some kind? If it's likely just a backlight bleed issue, I think ill just keep the monitor. I've played the RMA game before, and I have never ended up with a display that didn't have some kind of issue. Other than a minor dark spot in the corner, that is maybe the size of 1/8-1/4 of a dime, it's been pretty decent with NO DEAD PIXELS (this is a first for me). The darker spot does not affect work or anything, and is just a minor annoyance. However, if it's likely something else, it's getting returned. If this is a sign of a more widespread panel defect that will eventually cause complete failure, I do not want to play the RMA game with Asus down the road. EDIT This might have something to do with my eyes. I noticed that I typically sit offcenter to my monitor, more towards the left side. If I look at the darkened corner when sitting off to the right, the LEFT corner has a similar issue. WHen looking directly at the corner, the lighting looks ok. What the hell? EDIT 2: Best way to describe this issue would be with this image OF AN LED TV (this is some random image from google images)  It is not nearly as bad as this LED TV screen displays. Im guessing this is just a common problem with the tech? Avalanche fucked around with this message at 11:46 on Dec 4, 2013 |
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ShadowStalker posted:Does Dell ship faster than quoted? I ordered a new monitor last week and they are saying a December 30th delivery date right now. I had the same slow delivery showing and I got the monitor in probably 2 days, its pretty common I think.
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I've decided to switch to an IPS monitor, and in looking at my options I noticed that this Dell, is listed as being IPS, but is notably cheaper than the rest of their offerings. Is there something wrong with this series of monitors that makes them so much cheaper?
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Vyse posted:I've decided to switch to an IPS monitor, and in looking at my options I noticed that this Dell, is listed as being IPS, but is notably cheaper than the rest of their offerings. Is there something wrong with this series of monitors that makes them so much cheaper? That monitor is only 1920x1080, not 2560x1440 like the 27" monitors we recommend.
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unpronounceable posted:That monitor is only 1920x1080, not 2560x1440 like the 27" monitors we recommend. That's an insane price hike for a smidge more density. My 7950 is already struggling on the newest titles at 1920x1080, so it's not really an issue for me. Thanks for the quick assist.
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Vyse posted:That's an insane price hike for a smidge more density. My 7950 is already struggling on the newest titles at 1920x1080, so it's not really an issue for me. Thanks for the quick assist. Going from 82 ppi to 109 ppi is hardly a smidge more density. 1440p screens have 78% more screen real estate than 1080p.
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Christoff posted:....what about the monoprice one I linked above? Unless you're feeling spendy. It's glossy but apparently has some anti-glare stuff sprayed on it. But from what I understand mostly glossy. Just wanted to pop back in and say that I ultimately went with this suggestion. I do not regret it one bit. Trip report: It was maybe a bit of a gamble but no dead pixels. The only issue with it is a tiny touch of backlight bleed in the top right corner. Not even noticeable outside a bleed test. I know these are supposedly panels that don't meet apples standards so I think I came out pretty well and saved a ton of money. No dead pixels. Glossy but with almost no glare (some sort of anti-glare coat on it apparently) Very sexy looking. The main complaint I read about it was a cheap stand but it's not that bad. Picture looks fantastic. Best screen I've ever owned. I was getting bad eyestrain from my 25" 1920x1280 non IPS. After a full night of playing with my new toy my eyes don't hurt at all. It's got a little glass circular window at the top where an apple iSight camera would be. 27" 2560x1440 is amazing. I don't know how I ever used anything else. Paid $330 CND for it on cyber monday, and it came out to about $450 after expensive cross border shipping and US+Canadian taxes. http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=10509&seq=1&format=2 Considering I wanted something nice for doing my art but I couldn't afford the four digit cost monitors I'm quite satisfied.
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Is 1680x1050 really bad or something? I was planning on getting another 1680x1050 to replace my old Samsung which is making an intermittent high pitched whine. Also where do you guys recommend picking up a monitor(in Canada) for a decent price?
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4:3 is dead. Every good thing dies. Hope is dead, suffering is eternal.
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Sinestro posted:4:3 is dead. Every good thing dies. Hope is dead, suffering is eternal. 1680x1050 is 16:10. Also, most non-widescreen monitors were 5:4. Anyway, I know I wouldn't bother with 1680x1050 on anything larger than 20", and I'm not sure anybody makes a monitor smaller than 22" anymore.
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Zorilla posted:1680x1050 is 16:10. Also, most non-widescreen monitors were 5:4. Anyway, I know I wouldn't bother with 1680x1050 on anything larger than 20", and I'm not sure anybody makes a monitor smaller than 22" anymore. I thought the only common 5:4 resolution was 1280x1024. Everything else I remember was 4:3.
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I'm in the market for a new monitor as my old 1680x1050 means I can't play 1080p content at full res and other stuff that honestly in this day and age I should be able to do (like play assassins creed without letterboxing though that's more ubisoft being terrible). I'm still running a GTX570 so I probably won't be running that many games on high at native res but I'm fine with notching it down a bit until I get together the money for an R9290. I was thinking about getting a cheap korean 1440p IPS panel and was looking at the Crossover 27Q from bigclothcraft. Are there any retailers that sell anything better/comparable to this at a similar price, but are UK based? Or considerably cheaper? And is it worth paying £50 more for a 'perfect pixel' model (i.e. one that the seller's actually checked for dead pixels? I don't mind paying extra that much since these things are basically castoffs from apple's production line but obviously I'd rather not. Thanks <3
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unpronounceable posted:I thought the only common 5:4 resolution was 1280x1024. Everything else I remember was 4:3. Sorry, I forgot to specify LCD monitors. While there were probably quite a few 1024x768 and 800x600 LCD displays back in the day, most people didn't get one until 1280x1024 became the commonplace resolution for them.
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