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SwissArmyDruid posted:The 1280x1080 resolution per-pseudo monitor displeased me. Also, not able to rotate one of them into portrait for reading documents. So now the only reason 32:9 is dumb is because you can't rotate the display to read documents?
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Paul MaudDib posted:Ryan Smith says in the comments that 32" versions are expected to be a quarter behind. But I guess we all know how that worked out for the 27" monitors, still waiting on that Q1 2016 launch. There's also this recent monitor: https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16824025836 LG 32 inch 1440p VA 165 hz with GSYNC, at $800 it seems pretty competitive with those other monitors. Automata 10 Pack fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Mar 23, 2018 |
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KingEup posted:So now the only reason 32:9 is dumb is because you can't rotate the display to read documents? It is for *me*. I'm sure if you asked other people, they'd be able to come up with reasons why they think 32:9 is dumb, too!
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Palladium posted:All the shoving of ultrawides down our throats makes sense when you take in account that ever-longer aspect ratios gets more panels to sell out from the same glass substrate in the factories But ultrawide gaming is loving great and so is watching movies in their original ratio without letterboxing, so who cares if they shove something tasty down our throats for a change?
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Just to clarify, I think regular ultrawides are great for gaming but after seeing the 49" in person I couldn't come up with any reasonable use case for myself, especially since the price it goes for here in Europe is almost 2000 dollars. I saw it on Amazon for around half that price which might be more attractive for supplanting two 1080p monitors but even then it's a bit of a sketchy proposition at best IMO.
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I have a triple 1080p setup but I think these stupid superultrawide monitors would be great in split screen mode.
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I think a 32:9 ultrawide would be better than a comparable pair of 16:9 monitors for work purposes, and at least in games that handle the width well it'd also be better for single tasking. The reason I don't think I'd ever give up my actual multiple monitor setup is I like the separation, the ability to have a full-screen game running while still having monitoring, chat, or whatever else I'm doing on another screen, or a full screen movie/tv show running on one of the additional screens while I'm working/gaming on the main one. You can do that with the Samsung's side-by-side mode, but then you have to be working/gaming on one side of the monitor rather than in the center, which is a bit annoying. I'd rather just have two monitors with one centered as the primary and one off elsewhere as the secondary in that case. If it could emulate three monitors to the system it might be more interesting to me, so I could have a "full screen" 16:9 game running dead center with two 960x1080 vertical panels on either side, or even an ultrawide center with 640x1080 panels. I know most ultrawides come with software to assist with laying out windows like this, but those don't really get along with fullscreen titles where actually appearing to the system as multiple monitors does. Right now I'm feeling like my eventual endgame is a 21:9 panel underneath two 16:9s for the best of both worlds. Lots of work space on the main screen plus two separated spaces for multitasking.
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Odd Mutant posted:There's also this recent monitor: https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16824025836 Those VA panels are straight garbage compared to the IPS models in that price range.
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Mar 23, 2018 18:12
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Is split-screen a standard feature on ultra-wide monitors? Or is only a premium monitor thingy?
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BurritoJustice posted:Those VA panels are straight garbage compared to the IPS models in that price range. Really? What I read is that it has some advantages (contrast) and disadvantages (it can be slightly blurrier) over the IPS panels.
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Odd Mutant posted:Really? What I read is that it has some advantages (contrast) and disadvantages (it can be slightly blurrier) over the IPS panels. Their pixel transitions are way too slow to keep up with their refresh rate, the rated refresh rate is basically marketing bullshit. The manufacturers have to use aggressive overdrive to try and control the transition times which means they all suffer from anti-ghosting and pixel inversion. The contrast is nice, but black scenes still look crap because they have 50ms+ transitions from black and VA suffers from black crush and gamma shift. The IPS screens have much better colour accuracy, better motion clarity and better uniformity. I'd honestly recommend the TN 1440p144hz before the VA ones.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WToBfiP-YQs BurritoJustice fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Mar 23, 2018 |
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Mar 23, 2018 19:12
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BurritoJustice posted:Their pixel transitions are way too slow to keep up with their refresh rate, the rated refresh rate is basically marketing bullshit. The manufacturers have to use aggressive overdrive to try and control the transition times which means they all suffer from anti-ghosting and pixel inversion. The contrast is nice, but black scenes still look crap because they have 50ms+ transitions from black and VA suffers from black crush and gamma shift. The IPS screens have much better colour accuracy, better motion clarity and better uniformity. I'd honestly recommend the TN 1440p144hz before the VA ones. Are those results from this specific panel or is this just a criticism of VA panels in general? The video reviews I've seen from this monitor say that the ghosting is minimal.
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My S2716DG came yesterday, and wow. Even coming from a 144hz gsync 24in @1080 and I'm impressed. First thing I did was move the settings window around and even that was smoother. Also it's nice to have 27in back as my main display, and my 1060 6g is not having a hard time with 1440 as I feared.
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wolrah posted:Right now I'm feeling like my eventual endgame is a 21:9 panel underneath two 16:9s for the best of both worlds. Lots of work space on the main screen plus two separated spaces for multitasking. Sounds like you'd be better off with this: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/5/2/15513200/lg-4k-monitor-42-inch-ips-freesync-43ud79-b Check out the different screen layout options you get down the page.
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Mar 24, 2018 00:02
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60Hz, in the year 2018?
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Odd Mutant posted:Are those results from this specific panel or is this just a criticism of VA panels in general? The video reviews I've seen from this monitor say that the ghosting is minimal. It's definitely not all VA panels. Maybe the high refresh ones suffer from this more commonly because I have a regular 60 Hz monitor with zero ghosting as far as I can tell.
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lordfrikk posted:It's definitely not all VA panels. Maybe the high refresh ones suffer from this more commonly because I have a regular 60 Hz monitor with zero ghosting as far as I can tell. Aren’t those 144hz 4K HDR monitors we just saw for April VA panels? Seems like that’s something they’d have to get nailed down to sell such a premium monitor
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Odd Mutant posted:Are those results from this specific panel or is this just a criticism of VA panels in general? The video reviews I've seen from this monitor say that the ghosting is minimal. If you read TFTCentral's reviews of LG VA panels they show the exact same issues as Samsung's and AUO's. I've seen no evidence that they've overcome the inherent issues with high refresh VA.
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Deuce posted:Aren’t those 144hz 4K HDR monitors we just saw for April VA panels? Seems like that’s something they’d have to get nailed down to sell such a premium monitor Can't see any evidence of it but I didn't search too hard. I'm not too familiar with the limits of IPS so I'm not sure if it could even reach the brightness levels required for proper HDR.
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lordfrikk posted:Can't see any evidence of it but I didn't search too hard. I'm not too familiar with the limits of IPS so I'm not sure if it could even reach the brightness levels required for proper HDR. They're IPS, they use full array local dimming with 384 zones to do "proper" HDR.
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Can they use the FALD for high contrast with SDR content as well?
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Fingers McGee posted:My S2716DG came yesterday, and wow. Even coming from a 144hz gsync 24in @1080 and I'm impressed. First thing I did was move the settings window around and even that was smoother. Also it's nice to have 27in back as my main display, and my 1060 6g is not having a hard time with 1440 as I feared. They're really well rounded gaming monitors — fast response time, low input lag, very little overshoot/ghosting and good QC. Contrast and IQ could be better but not at that price point. TN still has a bad reputation but cheap and fast IPS panels have become so bad that a decent TN panel shines in comparison. I bought the smaller one as a stop gap until 4K/144Hz panels and matching GPUs become available but I'll probably skip the first generation of that tech because unless it exceeds all my expectations.
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Subjunctive posted:Can they use the FALD for high contrast with SDR content as well? I believe so. eames posted:TN still has a bad reputation but cheap and fast IPS panels have become so bad that a decent TN panel shines in comparison. What do you mean by this? The TN screens are nice for their price but that is the only reason for their recommendation, the equivalent IPS screens are actually fantastic by any standard. IPS screens haven't become bad, they're actually better than they have ever been. The TN screens definitely don't "shine" by comparison.
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BurritoJustice posted:I believe so. That’s great. Some have been able to and others not, but FALD for SDR is of real value to me!
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BurritoJustice posted:What do you mean by this? The TN screens are nice for their price but that is the only reason for their recommendation, the equivalent IPS screens are actually fantastic by any standard. IPS screens haven't become bad, they're actually better than they have ever been. The TN screens definitely don't "shine" by comparison. The last time I saw a couple of different IPS gaming monitors lined up in person most had massive IPS glow and very bright blacks. I don't want to  so let's just agree that IPS are actually fantastic by any standard.
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eames posted:The last time I saw a couple of different IPS gaming monitors lined up in person most had massive IPS glow and very bright blacks. I don't want to lol
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eames posted:The last time I saw a couple of different IPS gaming monitors lined up in person most had massive IPS glow and very bright blacks. I don't want to Would you buy an identically specced TN screen over an IPS (XB271HU vs S2718DG) for the same price?
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KingEup posted:Sounds like you'd be better off with this: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/5/2/15513200/lg-4k-monitor-42-inch-ips-freesync-43ud79-b The screen layout options are awesome, but that's way too large for a flat desktop monitor in my book. Once the screen is wider than two feet or so I like to see a curve. 60Hz is a bit of a bummer too, though not the biggest deal to me since I'm not really a twitch gamer. I like my faster panel but I'd be willing to give it up in exchange for other features. That controller strapped to a curved panel would be very tempting though, especially if they did it with an ultrawide panel and added an asymmetric three-wide mode like I described above. Having a normal 16:9 center with two narrow side "panels" would be a lot nicer than the triple portrait config this one offers.
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I'm looking for a recommendation on a 23-24" IPS display. I think I want something middle of the road for gaming more than anything.
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Odd Mutant posted:Are the 144hz IPS monitors actually IPS or are they still pseudo IPS like the first iterations? None of them are pseudo IPS, that is a common mistake due to the confusing naming conventions for panel technologies (LG owns the name "IPS, so when other manufacturers make them they use their own names like PLS/AHVA etc). They're actually IPS.
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So what recent decent additions to GSYNC monitors are there? Has ULMB technology progressed?
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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...KkaAjxvEALw_wcB This is a good deal... Right?
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greasyhands posted:https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...KkaAjxvEALw_wcB  https://pcpartpicker.com/product/scM323/aoc-ag271qg-270-165hz-monitor-ag271qg
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so this Dell is my best bet for a 27ish TN panel probably, yes?
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Xeras posted:so this Dell is my best bet for a 27ish TN panel probably, yes? yes tho that price is nothing to write home about the monitor is amazingly well constructed i am very pleased with it
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I am pleased to see that we might see the newer 4K/144HZ/Gsync displays by the end of this quarter. It means that the 200HZ ultrawides should be in tow as well. I should squirrel away some cash for an upgrade.
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canyoneer posted:Yep. Skipping to the end: I actually ended up buying this - already received it, and it's quite the upgrade. Only to figure out that today they're $89.99. Christ. I guess I'll get a second. https://slickdeals.net/f/11409143-24-dell-se2417hg-1080p-monitor-90-after-10-rebate-free-s-h
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Hi gang! I'm looking for a curvy monitor that is fun to shoot bad guys on. I'd like to stay under 1000USD. I read the OP posts but I'm not super clear on what I should be looking for so I'll just say it's going on a not huge desk so it won't be that far away from my face. So it doesn't really need to be huge. Or curved, I just like the way they look and have one at work and it makes me feel like I'm in minority report. edit: I should add I'm on a laptop and it has a GTX 1070 in it.
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eightysixed posted:I actually ended up buying this - already received it, and it's quite the upgrade. Only to figure out that today they're $89.99. Christ. I guess I'll get a second. https://slickdeals.net/f/11409143-24-dell-se2417hg-1080p-monitor-90-after-10-rebate-free-s-h To be fair, I envy you that you can be happy with a $100 monitor.
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