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Do 120hz tv's allow for 120 frames per second from a computer?
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Apr 19, 2011 21:25
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DrDork posted:As a general rule, no. Obviously, check the spec sheet (since there's no technological reason, other than that HDTVs generally use HDMI chips that aren't powerful enough to support it, but eventually that'll probably change), but I've yet to see one that supported anything above 1920x1080@60p. Thanks for the reply. For instance I found a led lcd 120hz tv on newegg and I went to Visio's website and not even the tech specs specify. It list Computer Support: 1920x1080, 1360x768, 800x600, 640x480 via VGA/HDMI and Signal Compatibility: Supports 1080P (FHDTV), 1080I(HDTV), 720P(HDTV), 480P(EDTV), 480I(SDTV) but no mention of refresh or frames per second for computer support, and just 120hz refresh for the tv period, which could mean its just inserting extra frames or black frames instead of doing 120 discrete frames of input. I don't care about 3d stuff at all, but I would like to have a monitor capable of displaying more than 60 frames per second that's not a TN panel. A lcd tv seem like a good compromise. I'm open to other suggestions that might these requirements.
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Apr 21, 2011 17:11
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Leercore posted:Does anyone own or have any experience with the BenQ M2700HD? I'm after a largish monitor I can mount to my wall and connect my Foxtel box to, so I can watch TV from my desk, where I am for the majority of my day. So far this sounds like the sort of thing I'm after, speakers built in, even if they're kind of lovely (undoubtedly) and a remote, which would be helpful. I use a Samsung 32" tv as my monitor. It has a pva screen I believe? Its a really nice screen and I'm really happy with. The only thing is that sometimes I run out of desktop room when I'm working on stuff and it would be silly to try and dual screen with something this big on my desk.
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May 26, 2011 02:42
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DrDork posted:Not a whole lot, sadly. There are still various issues with using a TV as a PC monitor, to the point where it's still not recommended. Still, if you're going to go that route, smaller TVs will always result in higher image quality than larger ones, and one that supports 1920x1080p input via a computer-aware HDMI/DVI port will minimize the fuckery that the TV will impose on the image. In that sense the Sony looks like a decent pick, but it'll still never look as good as a normal PC monitor. I have a 32" 1080p Samsung as my main screen and its always looked fantastic to me. Text is nice once I turned the sharpness all the way down, colors are great, and I don't notice any ghosting. I've sat infront of my coworkers Dell 30" ultrasharps from 2010 and other than pixel density, I didn't notice any difference in picture quality. Maybe if I had them side by side. As far as current generation stuff, I don't have any recommendations but Samsung would be the first brand I would look at.
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Jul 14, 2011 18:52
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DrDork posted:27" 1920x1080 ewwwwww! The only reason I could see for buying such a monitor is if you're going to be looking at it from across the room or something. I rock a 32" 1920 x 1080 "monitor". Its awesome and I'm like 3 feet away from it.
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Aug 12, 2011 14:29
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Do any of you have a recommendation for a portable monitor? I'm starting to dabble in coding on my 13" Macbook Pro and the single display is killing me. I've found out about this AOC monitor. 16 inches with a 1368 x 768 display. http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/21/aocs-16-inch-portable-monitor-sucks-power-video-from-your-usb/ Then there's this Toshiba which is 14 inches but the same resolution. http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/03/toshibas-portable-usb-monitor-cheap-enough-to-be-useful/ And finally Lenovo has one which is also 14 inches with 1366 x 768 but is the lightest out of all three. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news/thinkvision-lt1421-portable-monitor-that-actually-works-review/4696 Has any one used one of these? Is there a portable monitor out there with better resolution at about the same size I don't know about? There's an old Dell XPS laptop with a 17" 1900 x 1200 display I would love to be able to turn into one of these things.
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Sep 28, 2011 02:24
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movax posted:Nope, never used any of them though I imagine they carry quite a premium for being "portable". Where would you be using this normally? Would you setup with your MBP and portable display at a coffee shop or something? Do you really need a dedicated portable, "travel" monitor? They clock in for around $200 or so if you're curious.
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Sep 29, 2011 13:02
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Cwapface posted:*Possible gross stupidity incoming* Hey I know this is a late reply, but I currently use a Samsung 32 1080p tv as my main monitor. I believe its a s-pva panel. At work I use a 23 inch monitor with an 2048 x 1152 resolution and the TV is 32" and 1920x1080 and personally, the pixel density has never been the issue that people make it out to be. Image quality is fantastic, I don't notice any ghosting, and I feel like I have more flexibility with my display. When I first picked up the TV for my computer, I had my xbox 360 running into my CRT using the VGA adapter, so it very beneficial to have one display that I could use for my computer, games, and if I ever got around to it, TV. So I'm all for it. edit: The only thing is I had to turn sharpness all the way off to make text readable. Once I did that the tv was golden. Coredump fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Jan 5, 2012 |
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Jan 5, 2012 19:26
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UndyingShadow posted:Agreed! I use a 32" 1080p tv as a primary monitor and this is not an issue. You would have to be RIGHT up on the screen to experience it.
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Apr 16, 2012 18:07
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What about this? http://www.amazon.com/Kitchen-Cabinet-Mount-iPad-2/dp/B005NHR6KM
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Apr 24, 2012 18:37
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I bought two U2412M's from Newegg when they went on special and I'm having serious buyer's remorse right now. I have big desk in my room but its not quite big enough where I can have both monitors in landscape side by side and see comfortably. I've compensated by turning one monitor into portrait layout but now I've noticed the color is not consistent across the whole panel. With the monitor in portrait the bottom is a lot yellower than the top. My display before this was a 32" 1080p Samsung tv that everyone likes to crap on as a display solution. With all the inputs, built in speakers, and the ability to sit way back in my chair and read comfortably, going two these two 24" I feel like I made a mistake. Maybe a 27" would be the way to go for me. Coredump fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Dec 2, 2012 |
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Dec 2, 2012 05:37
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Pvt Dancer posted:Exactly the same setup, but my vertical monitor suffers from slightly blurry text. It goes away when I put it in landscape mode. Is this is a driver / windows thing I can fix? Check to make sure Windows isn't putting the resolution at 1080p for one of the monitors even though they are 1920 x 1200. My computer keeps doing that for one of the monitors and I don't get it.
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Dec 3, 2012 01:11
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chippy posted:Pretty sure, yeah. It's an old card, an 8800GTX. I'm pretty sure it just has the 2 x DVI ports on it. Lack of sound is no issue, I can just hook up some speakers to the sound card, I think the TV might actually have line-ins on it. I prefer separate speakers to using the weedy built in ones you normally get on TVs anyway. Wait what? Maybe I'm misinterpreting that quote but I hooked up my TV to my video card with a dvi to hdmi cable no problem. For sound, older card have a two pin connector for audio IN. You can take spdif out from your motherboard or soundcard, plug it into the videocard, and the video card will send sound over the dvi to hdmi cable to have sound and video going into your tv. True story. Newer Nvidia card don't need to do the audio pins. They just do it automagically. I have a gtx 260 that requires the cable and a gt220 that does not. So somewhere in that time frame they switched.
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Dec 7, 2012 13:33
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I've looked at the Dell 29" super wide monitor and have considered it. I can see where they get the idea for it, its pretty much like having two 4:3 monitors without the bezel in the center. That seems real nice. However every time I start to get tempted by one I think to myself, "If I want 2560 x 1080 I can get the same thing out of a 27" monitor and I get an extra 360 vertical pixels". I was thinking why would anyone ever go for one of those when I looked at the physical dimensions, the 29" monitor is 27.6" wide while the 27" monitor from Dell is 25.5" wide. I really wish I could get a monitor with 2560 x 1440 resolution but keep that 27.6 width. That would make the monitor a 31.3 panel size, roughly what I used to have but with a higher resolution panel. It's a bummer that you can get 1080p in all different sizes but if you want 1440p its 27" or nothing.
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Dec 19, 2012 04:31
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Abel Wingnut posted:Has anyone used the U2913WM? Thoughts? Haven't used it, haven't seen it in person, but have been doing a lot of research on it. The pluses are it's wider than a 30" Dell monitor by .26 of an inch. The thing is, you could get the same viewing area PLUS 360 additional vertical pixels if you go with a Dell 27" monitor. As long as you can deal with a panel that is 2 inches narrower. The 29" inch monitors are supposed to have some sort of display software that's supposed to do stuff with program windows. But I haven't bothered to look for details on it. Mr.Radar posted:Based on the quoted viewing angles it looks like it's an IPS-panel display, and Dell is generally a good brand for monitors, but it's also a 27" 1080p screen so the pixels will be pretty large and it won't show any more detail than a 20" 1080p screen would. At that physical size you really want to get 1440p or higher like the U2713HM or one of the Korean import monitors. And I'm here to say the "screen door" effect is not as big of a deal as everyone makes it out to be. My primary monitor was a 32" samsung 1080p tv and I've gone to Dell u2412m dual screens. I would have to put my nose on either screen before I could start to tell a difference in pixel pitch. So don't be afraid to give it a try and see for yourself.
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Dec 27, 2012 10:06
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Speaking of U2412M's I've put my two for sell in SAMART. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3525977 Just a heads up for anyone who would want to get a pair on the cheap.
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Jan 2, 2013 14:26
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Aatrek posted:Wow, my new pair of U2312HM's just showed up. Hell of a step up from my old 1680x1050's. Goddamned bright, too. Hey how wide do those 23's measure side by side in landscape for both monitors?
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Jan 3, 2013 08:50
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Aatrek posted:3840x1080 (1920x2). Hehe, my bad I meant in physical dimensions.
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Jan 3, 2013 14:40
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kiresays posted:Having trouble deciding between a TV and using it as a TV/monitor or a nice big monitor. I already have a computer monitor, so this would be my main screen and my current would move to secondary screen. I used a 32" Samsung tv for a monitor for a long. For everyone voting against I wonder how many of them have actually done it and how many are just echoing what they've heard. I know with my tv I had to turn sharpness all the way down to get the text to stop looking messed up. But a 32" screen at 1080p looked fine even from just a few feet away, you have to get a pretty big TV and be pretty close before you start to see pixels in my experience. I have Ultrasharp u2412m monitors that I'm selling, and could tell no difference in color between them and my TV. Having built-in speakers, a remote to turn the tv on or off, and all the different inputs was nice.
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Jan 7, 2013 18:52
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kiresays posted:Having trouble deciding between a TV and using it as a TV/monitor or a nice big monitor. I already have a computer monitor, so this would be my main screen and my current would move to secondary screen. I know I already answered once but I just packed up my two 24" monitors and have moved back to my 32" tv for now until I get another monitor. After being on a 24" 1920 x 1200 monitor and now going to a 32" 1080p tv, the tv is stupid big. I used this as my one and only display for several years, but drat its big. I think I'm going to go a 27" 2560 x 1440 monitor and see how that works for me. The only reason I moved away from this tv in the first place was running out of room on screen when multitasking. However, I'm sitting at 26" inches away from the tv and it does really fill up my vision. When playing games, especially racing games, its awesome. FPS's are nice too, and since 1080p isn't that much resolution to push, I never had to have a super nice video card for my setup either. I say try it out for a while. Especially if you can set the monitor 30" away.
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Jan 8, 2013 01:25
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I went to the U2713HM from my U2412M's and I like the monitor pretty well. Text can be uncomfortably small in web browsers. When I increase text size it can make pages look all fucky. Overall though I feel like its the best compromise between all my options. Also I got one of these and plugged it into the monitor's usb hub and it makes a nice difference to the ambiance of my room. http://www.frys.com/product/6634394 Note not my picture. 
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Feb 1, 2013 21:58
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MancXVI posted:Seems like of pointless to me when the U2713HM has a higher resolution. I thought so too. But now that I have the U2713HM I realize that the U2913HM will have a bigger panel size. For as uncomfortably tiny as text can get on this monitor, that may be worth it to people.
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Feb 6, 2013 03:31
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AngryGuy posted:So I'm looking to add a third monitor to my setup. Originally I was going to grab another 16:10 24" to go along with my existing two and have the possibility of doing nvidia surround but realistically I doubt I would use it very much. I think the better option is going with a 27" or 30" and I'm thinking 27" is the better choice for gaming. With that being said, is the HP ZR2740W going to be my best choice for a monitor in this size if response time is one of my biggest concerns? I've also heard the newest revision has a less aggressive AG coating than the Dell models which I would appreciate. The only bummer for me that I can see is the lack of scaler since I'd like the ability to hook my 360 up to it as well but I can use one of my other monitors for that purpose. I've had a Dell u2412 and now a u2713hm. The antiglare on the u2713hm is much less aggressive than the u2412m, its almost "semi-gloss" in appearance. Now that I have a 27" I think if I had budget to choose from a 27" or a 30" I would go 30" for the multitasking potential. Think about it like this, you can have a full length 1280x1600 window on onside, and then two 1280x800 windows stacked on top of each other. That's like one monitor in portrait and two laptop display windows all on one monitor. With a 27" monitor, stacking two windows on top of each other the windows get crowded.
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Feb 19, 2013 14:47
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fookolt posted:Do you play on a 2560x monitor? I pretty much play everything at 1920x on my Dell 30" and I have never had a problem with blurriness or anything for the last 5 years. Yeah I was about to say I have a 2560x1440 27" that I recently plugged my ps3 into and the image looked nice and crisp.
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Feb 28, 2013 14:20
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Do you have poor eyesight? Text should be more clear on the higher resolution monitor so I'm guessing your problem is it's just smaller and harder to see because you haven't turned on text scaling to a comfortable level. Text scaling on windows 7 at least is very clumsy. If you set the dpi up to 150% then the search box in iTunes get messed up for one very specific example. Then with these forums the text becomes hard to read without either zooming in or specifying a larger font in the browser. And when you specify a larger default font all kinds of little oddities pop up everywhere. So sometimes its just nice to have a nice big screen at 1080p. I guess you could specify a non native resolution for a 1440 monitor and hope its not too blurry.
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Mar 27, 2013 21:55
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DarkJC posted:It's really stupid to blame Apple for that one, there simply is no great support for it at the OS level. Sure they could have put in some extra effort but then they would have the one lone app that worked in a sea of apps that still had a bunch of glitches because Microsoft has put no effort into high-DPI scaling. I'm not sure you're aiming this reply at me but I'm in no way blaming Apple for windows poor DPI scaling. Its just one specific example I've dealt with as I've switched between different size and resolution of monitors in the last 6 months. Edit: spelling Coredump fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Mar 28, 2013 |
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Mar 28, 2013 21:28
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unpronounceable posted:Off the top of my head, window snapping, more robust window movement hotkeys, window resizing hotkeys, a much more robust wallpaper slideshow, and multi-monitor taskbars. That is one thing windows really needs to build on. The window snapping in windows 7 was awesome. But ever since I got turned onto winsplit revolution from the forums here and better snap tool on OSX it really highlights what can be done with window snapping. Winsplit will split windows into 1/3, 1/2, or 2/3 of the screen or divide up windows where you can have a total of six windows on the screen at once. However winsplit you really need to use the keyboard to get the most out of it as their drag and drop window zones kinda suck. That's where better snap tool shines, its drag and drop zones pick up a lot better.
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Apr 2, 2013 04:55
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Chinook posted:Yeah, I'm just looking for something with a native 1920x1080 that is just plain larger. I don't want to buy garbage, but I'd like to avoid spending more than $600 or so. Ignore the OP and start looking at TV's. I ran a 32" Samsung as my primary monitor for several years and it was awesome. Only reason I moved away from it was I need more on screen real estate. Having a remote, built in speakers, and all those inputs was awesome. Text looked fine, just had to turn my sharpness all the way down to 0. No screen door effect and couldn't see any individual pixels. The Samsung also had a spva panel instead of IPS and the colors, image quality, etc. compare favorably to the Dell U2713HM I now use.
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Apr 11, 2013 05:09
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:4:2:0 don't use a TV as a monitor every day. Have you used a TV as a monitor?
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Apr 11, 2013 21:18
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:One of my friends does, and I get a headache if I use his computer for more than a few minutes. I have no idea if my TV had 4:4:4 color sampling. I do know I ran one for at least 3 years and I nor any of the 5 or 6 people who used my computer ever had any problems with headaches. If anything having text that large let their eyes completely relax and still be able to read. I see a lot of people dismiss the idea of using TV's for monitors but I just wonder how many of have personal experience with it. In your case I wonder if you had the TV as your personal monitor if you could have calibrated it to stop the headaches. Also I'm really curious if your friend had his sharpness adjusted correctly because on my set it did crazy poo poo to text on screen. Turned it all the way down, no problems.
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Apr 11, 2013 21:31
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kuddles posted:Does anyone here use a U2713HM for gaming around here? I'm thinking of making the jump to a 27" monitor and buying a Dell Ultrasharp hasn't let me down in the past, and I don't do any professional-level color work so the U2713H will probably be overkill for me. The only thing giving me pause is the complaints about "moderate input lag" in reviews, but as usual it's hard to tell if that's something I'm going to notice in real-world circumstances. I have the U2713HM. Input lag is news to me, feels just as good as the u2412 I had before it.
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Apr 16, 2013 15:17
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Butt Soup Barnes posted:So after searching on the internet and reading the OP, are 27" 16:10 monitors not manufactured for some reason? Look at the 30" monoprice monitor. I don't think you're going to find 16:10 in a 27" size.
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Apr 22, 2013 20:28
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Hanks Lust Cafe posted:Nope (only one I've got, yeah I know.) and the length is just a few feet from monitor to tower. Sorry to keep shooting you down like this! I'll try to wrassle up a different DVI cable. Order one from monoprice if you gotta. Great place to pick up cables like hdmi, dvi, and ethernet.
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May 30, 2013 13:35
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The Lord Bude posted:Well it's about 2700 dollars less than I spent on my 2.1 system, although I'm including preamp, DAC, cables, etc in that figure. Oh the unintentional comedy in this is great.
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Jun 25, 2013 17:51
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Newegg has the U2412M on sale for $260 with promo code EMCXNWW49, which is about as cheap as it gets. I was coming here to post that as well. If you end up with two you get 48" of monitor side to side, which is a hell of a thing.
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Jul 11, 2013 17:11
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HJE-Cobra posted:Thanks for the advice. The Dell Ultrasharps do sound nice, and that 23" version might be good, since it's just under $200 now even. I don't think I really need that "professional gaming" monitor. Keep in mind Dell's awesome ultrasharp panel warranty.
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Jul 17, 2013 03:20
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oblomov posted:I don't mind mild AG applications but kind of hate some of the aggressive AG I have seen on Dell and HP monitors before. Now, for office work that's actually fine, just sucks for gaming/movies. I was thinking LED backlight just because really, newer tech, should be less prone to fading/failure, etc... Is U2713 (cheaper version) significantly better? I guess I should track down some reviews. When I went from Dell u2412's to the u2713hm I noticed the antiglare coating on the 24's was more of matte finish while the antiglare on the 27 could be described as "semi-gloss". Its very unobtrusive.
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Jul 20, 2013 06:10
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Illuminati by Nature posted:I'll look into that - cheers. Do you think 1920X1080 would be OK for gaming on a screen that size? I used a 32" 1080p screen for pc gaming. It will be fine.
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Aug 5, 2013 18:48
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Has anyone looked at those Seiki 4k tv's for a monitor? They seem like a pretty sweet deal. They have a 39" one for about $700. 4k @ 39" I think works out to about the same ppi as a 27" 1440p monitor. They only do 30hz at 4k resolution but for desktop and productivity I think that would be fine. Plus they are supposed to be 120hz capable if you drop them down to 1080p, would be awesome to game on. And you wouldn't have to run some crazy rear end video card to get decent frame rates. I'm kinda tempted myself.
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Aug 9, 2013 04:41
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Happy_Misanthrope posted:It really, really wouldn't. 30fps is just brutal for basic desktop navigation. I don't believe you. The one person doing a review on the tv using it as a monitor said it was fine. Have you run your desktop at 30hz recently? I poked around a little and didn't see the option available but I'm going to reserve judgement until I can try it myself.
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Aug 12, 2013 18:11
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