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Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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I'm considering whether to attempt to jump to 4k gaming now that Nvidia's GTX 970/980 are out. Benchmarks seem to indicate that SLI 970s can actually handle 4k gaming fairly well, and for under $700 which previously would have been impossible. This would be a large upgrade, as it would also require a new motherboard, power supply, and of course a new monitor.

There are a couple 28" 4k monitors around that are fairly cheap now.

Samsung down to $600 now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0JC-0007-00009

Dell down to $500
http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Monitor-P2815Q-years-warranty/dp/B00I0H9T5C

And apparently Acer with a display with G-Sync for $800 releasing shortly
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8548/acer-releases-xbo-series-28inch-uhd4k-with-gsync-for-800


So I have two main questions on the mind:

How are 28" 4k displays? I understand there's a fair bit of personal opinion involved, but that's ~50% higher pixel density than what I'm used to. I've heard mixed things about that resolution at this size, so I figure I'd solicit some more opinions because goons are smart.


Also, I'm wondering if anyone familiar with G-Sync could comment on how noticeable an improvement it is. Tech reviews speak glowingly about it... but that's sort of what they do for a living.


The alternate upgrade I'm considering is just going 1440/1600 with a single card. About half the upgrade cost without the second card, new motherboard, new power supply, and a less-pricey monitor.

Deuce fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Sep 20, 2014

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Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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MrYenko posted:

What are your thoughts on this primarily as a gaming monitor?

I can't decide if I want a 1440p gsync, a 1440p non-gsync 21:9, or 4K non-gsync display.

I wonder how much 4k gsync monitors are going to cost.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Is a 120hz, 1ms response, IPS, curved ultrawide 1440p g-sync monitor for under $1000 really too much to ask? :v:

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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smushroomed posted:

I was thinking about doing this, I have a swift and there's an acer ips 27in 1440p for sale on newegg but I'm worried that I'll hate the colors on the swift if I place a ips right next to it

This was a wise decision. I just upgraded to the LG 34UC97 from a 120hz 1080p TN panel I used for gaming. (back when I thought 3D vision was going to be this amazing video game revolution :suicide: )

I kept the older monitor thinking I might occasionally use it to have some movie running in the background or something while I do work waste time on my computer doing other things, but within five minutes it's obvious that will never happen. This thing is too pretty.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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NarDmw posted:

I am also curious about that, because I was wondering how a dual monitor setup with an ultra wide as the main would be like.

I still have two 1080p TN panels I owned prior to my 34" ultrawide 1440p but since I moved I haven't even got them out of the boxes.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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I want a 1440p ultrawide 144hz with g-sync.

For not $1000.

And a puppy.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
Mile High Club

BurritoJustice posted:

It's been known for quite a while that LG is making a 3440x1440p 144Hz panel, but it is still up in the air whether there will be a model launched with DP1.3+ to allow the panel to run at it's full native resolution/refresh rate. LG announced a new 34" 3440x1440p ultrawide yesterday with, presumably, the aforementioned panel. Unfortunately, it's been since "confirmed" (the press release specifically avoids mentioning both the resolution and refresh rate simultaneously, and there have been statements from retailers et al.) to be 75Hz max in 1440p mode and 144Hz max in 1080p mode. The X34P has so far been said to be "Native" 100Hz, but given that there is no 3440x1440p 100Hz native panel, it is basically confirmed to be the same 144Hz panel. We've yet to see if there will be a DP1.3/1.4 model at full resolution and refresh rate. I would imagine that Nvidia would love to jump on the chance to make a GSync module for DP1.3/1.4 as a vector to push Pascal's display bandwidth advantage over Maxwell.

One of the spec sheets I saw said DP1.2, so yeah.

LG, if you make that thing run 144hz at full resolution, I'll buy it. I mean seriously. It's not like there's an additional manufacturing cost to this.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
Mile High Club
Can't wait to see ultrawides at 144hz.

That are not $2000.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
Mile High Club

Vintersorg posted:

Jumped and I got the ACER Predator - it's goddamn amazing. Holy poo poo. Even better than the store demo.

You're making this worse.

See, the 1080ti is launching next week. But Deuce! Your monitor is merely 3440x1440x60! The GTX 1080 is already capable of handling maxed out, AAA gaming on this device!

I'll save you the overdone Darth Kermit meme, but that guy? That guy's voice is saying "Buy the predator."

And here you are. On his side.

Are there any 1440p ultrawide monitors at a true 120hz in the pipeline? edit: while also being IPS and maybe G-sync?

edit: I mean jesus we're getting 144hz 4k monitors soon.

Deuce fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Mar 5, 2017

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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I've got a new desk and am putting together a new setup. I will likely be upgrading to a ~34" ultrawide. What's a good mounting option? I'd like a clamp-style one that attaches to the desk and has an articulating arm. (the desk is very thick so only has certain spots I will be able to mount the arm to, so I will want to have lateral motion available)

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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What the hell is quantum dot and why should I care

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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sarr posted:

I get it, I get it. :(

I just don't understand how I can have a sweet and pretty affordable (2200$ for 65" LG B-series) OLED TV in my living room but not at my computer.

Plug your computer into it and see what happens.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Ok, I'm sure this has been done a hundred times, but:

ASUS PG348Q vs Predator X34.

Amazon has the Predator for $1020 and Newegg has the Asus for $999. A nearby Microcenter will pricematch both, so no shipping charge or pains with returns.

Are there any differences I should be concerned with other than aesthetics?

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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BIG HEADLINE posted:

I'd bet money nVidia's sitting on a new revision of GSync they're going to unveil to take the piss out of HDMI 2.1's VRR.

What would a new version even ... do?

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Space Racist posted:

A couple people on Reddit have said that you can peel the Predator logo off, at least on the X34. There might be some residue you have to deal with but apparently it's just a decal. I'm guessing this would negatively impact your warranty, though!

Fingernail test confirms.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Remember when 60hz was gaming speed

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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eames posted:

console gamers don't

:boom:

But srsly I'm still mad there's no 120/144hz 1440p ultrawides

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Yorkshire Tea posted:

I'm considering buying a new computer that's state of the art. Is a 4k monitor worth my cash or do I want to wait?

Buying toys is always a subjective value proposition. What you have now, what you want to get, what features you want, how much money you're willing to spend, how much you like what you're spending it on... there's a lot of variables here, dude. What's your current monitor? What do you use it for? What do you want to use your new monitor for?

4k monitors are likely to be the standard for a while. Higher refresh rates, HDR, G-sync, etc, are features that will creep in over the years and come down in price. I think it will be a while before higher resolutions are feasible for video gamers as GPU power is still catching up to 4k.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Do desk-clamp style super heavy duty dual monitor arms exist?

I've got a dumb idea to mount a computer "floating" next to its monitor. (the case has VESA mount capability) Problem is, this thing could weigh like 40-50 pounds with a full watercooled system in it.

Sadly, the desk only really has one spot to mount a clamp to unless I get... creative. Hence the desire for a dual mount.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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I want the case on top of the desk, not below it. This is pretty neat though. Unfortunately the case is not a traditional one and wouldn't work with this.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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lordfrikk posted:

It's definitely not all VA panels. Maybe the high refresh ones suffer from this more commonly because I have a regular 60 Hz monitor with zero ghosting as far as I can tell.

Aren’t those 144hz 4K HDR monitors we just saw for April VA panels? Seems like that’s something they’d have to get nailed down to sell such a premium monitor

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Give me US pricing for 4k/144hz/HDR/G-Sync already!

And make them bigger than 27 inches!

I am going to spend so much money aren't I :(

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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spider wisdom posted:

Well poo poo. Three days of enjoying a 1070ti upgrade, and my old-rear end ASUS 1080 display dies. I might as well go 1440 at this point, right? I'm not gonna find a G-Sync IPS under $300, am I?

G-Sync is usually at least a $200 Nvidia tax, IIRC. But my info there may be out of date.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Q8ee posted:

is that even a thing?

Is ______ porn a thing?

You are too old or too young to be on this forum. Get out.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Tenik posted:

Anyone have any experience with ultra wide or curved displays? I am thinking about getting one to replace my cheap 5+ year old monitor, but I'm worried about running games on something other than a normal 16:9 aspect ratio.
edit: ^^ Yeah there's Blizzard being dicks about it too. Forgot those.

Most games handle it fine, either filling the screen just fine or letterboxing if they can't handle the aspect ratio change.

A few games get janky with UI. I vaguely recall XCom 2 menu buttons not working properly because the actual clickpoint didn't match the button's location.

I've seen some older games just go :downs: by stretching the frame to fill the screen. Had to tweak some settings.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Yeah gonna go ahead and wait for release and reviews before I even think about a $2000... well, anything.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Desuwa posted:

I thought those monitors were going to be $3000. Doesn't end up mattering though, I'm willing to go well into diminishing returns but not into negative returns; even at only $2000 4:2:2 chroma subsampling is a dealbreaker. Not going to buy a monitor when I could, conceivably, "upgrade" to the same panel with DP 1.5 a year later.

So what’s the practical difference between the 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 or whatever

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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BurritoJustice posted:

Fun fact, the new PG27U and X27 (the $2k monitors we all know and will never own) have a peak drawn of 180w~ each.

So when their XXXTREEEEME GAMING marketing says “eye searing peak brightness” they’re talking literally?

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Avalanche posted:

So with the Acer X27 4k HDR monitor it comes with a really cheap plastic fan in the back to cool down the FALD backlight. Apparently it makes a fuckton of noise and there's a lot of people returning the monitor because of that already.

And apparently this is a thing too.....



What the poo poo. I was gonna check these out at micro center this week but why bother

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Since the X27 is going to get included in the realm of custom water loops now because watercooling monitors has become a thing, obviously there must be a way to overclock it.

Overclock DP1.4 to eliminate the chroma subsampling thing? 200hz 4k HDR? :haw:

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Spaseman posted:

How much more of a drain on fps is ultravide 3440x1440p vs a standard 27" 2k? I cannot stop wavering between getting an ultrawide or 27" and the only thing holding me back is the worry that my 1070 ti wont run fast enough on an ultrawide to make it worth it.

1070ti will not have a problem with 3440x1440.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Saw one of the BFGDs in Microcenter today. The price has already "dropped" to $4000, what a deal!

Not gonna lie, it looked pretty fantastic. Can't wait for GPU technology to start pushing 4k120 properly.

Deuce fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Jun 6, 2019

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Aren't OLEDs problematic for PC use in general due to the way they wear out/burn in?

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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shrike82 posted:

lamo the rumored price for the 32" Asus HDMI2.1/144hz beast is $6400 (converted from Chinese currency)

Are miniLEDs made from some kind of rare space metal recently mined from the asteroid belt?

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Coredump posted:

You’re looking at OLED if you want that. There’s the LG CX line for that these days.

They’re also early adopters for the HDMI 2.1 spec that finally allows actual 4K high refresh without compromise.

I think that changes this year, finally.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

https://www.dell.com/premier/us/en/rc1378895/#/systems/details/aw3423dw-monitor/AW3423DWSAP

The QD-OLED ultrawide is now available for purchase, at $1307 + tax. This is 2 - 3x the price of typical monitors of this size and resolution, but it's using a new kind of OLED display that promises to have a better HDR image than any other monitor you could buy right now. This is through their premier program, but from what I can tell, anyone can buy it?

There are no detailed reviews yet, but this chinese youtuber somehow managed to get out a review?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba9u6uhfgQw

There's nothing here to really say how much better or worse it is than other oled panels, but it does highlight that some of the typical oled issues are still present, like an automatic brightness limiter that turns down the screen's brightness when you enlarge a window with a white background. This is more or less expected, though in theory it should still be brighter, more vivid, and more burn-in resistant than LG oled panels with better text clarity too. Hopefully other reviewers who do more detailed analyses can review it soon. If this youtuber got one, the hopefully dell hasn't snubbed hardware unboxed.

(off topic, but I'm also impressed by how far youtube's auto translate has come for chinese speech)

edit: aaand it's out of stock lol

I had one ordered briefly but canceled it. I'm gonna wait on this. Apparently it was available for $980 for a brief period and people who got their order in kept it.
"Add to cart" button isn't actually a button, and

quote:

Estimated Ship Date 1/1/0001

I'm guessing you have to have an actual Dell Premier account.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Rusty posted:

I still have one in my cart, I wonder if I can still buy it, looks like it would let me.

You can always toss it up on ebay for $1800!

(don't do this)

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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I noticed that the AW3423DW shows as out of stock on Dell's website, but when the page is loading the "Add to cart" button briefly appears. So I hit refresh and clicked the button in the .25 seconds it was visible, and it actually let me go all the way through the ordering process. Nice job on the website, Dell!

Edit: got a text message saying the purchase is confirmed. Sure, Dell. Sure.

Deuce fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Mar 9, 2022

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Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
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Alienware AW3423DW datapoint: My March 9 order was originally "expected" to ship today, now lists June 20 as a ship date.

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