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The CFL backlights in my current Samsung displays are starting to have noticable warm up time to full brightness, which is a sign they're about to fail in the next few months, from what I can tell from experience. So I'm currently looking at a bunch of replacements, that also suit my photography hobby I've picked up after the mentioned Samsungs. I have two on the short list right now, these are the HP Z24i and the Asus PB248Q. Any objections to these? Other than that, what I'm looking for are 24", 1920x1200, IPS panels, 100% SRGB and ideally not breaking the bank (since I eventually need two). --edit: Also is Dell still running the panel lottery as years back, where review and initial batches came with awesome IPS panels, and suddenly were switched with TN ones? Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Nov 2, 2014 |
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Ika posted:I never heard of this before. I thought you just sometimes got unlucky with the backlight bleed. Have a source? Dogen posted:If you really need 100% you could go for the U2410. On Dell Belgium, there's only the U2415 and costs a 100€+ over the other models I've quoted. Hrm. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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Nov 3, 2014 05:11
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Anti-Hero posted:That is either backlight bleed or IPS glow (probably this one). If the former it's ground for a return/exchange. If the latter you could exchange and hope you get one with less pronounced glow, but don't count on it. IPS glow is endemic to the technology and you generally have to pay out of your rear end for a model that eliminates this "feature".
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Nov 14, 2014 00:08
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Anti-Hero posted:What's your definition of affordable? Brands like NEC and Eizo easily go for double of that. There's for instance the Asus PA series or the Dells that are factory calibrated, but they're somewhat uneven lit in the corners.
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Nov 14, 2014 17:55
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Any point in going with a wide gamut display, if all I'm going to do is create content for the web? I'm going the easy way out and get a 27" Dell, but between the U2713HM and U2713H are "just" 80€, which is acceptable if wide gamut may be useful. I do photography and work on RAW files, so there might be a point to wide gamut, but ultimately things are going to land on the web. --edit: Apparently the LG 27EA83-D has the same panel as the U2713H, and is 70 bucks cheaper. God I hate the display industry. --edit2: But the LG has a 120hz PWM whereas Dell is something between 1-11kHz. Sigh. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Nov 16, 2014 |
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Nov 16, 2014 15:00
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Hambilderberglar posted:Does there exist a consensus on whether or not Eizo's EV2736W is a decent competitor to Dell's U2713H(M)?
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Nov 16, 2014 18:45
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I hope the various sites hurry up in reviewing the Dell U2715H.
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Nov 23, 2014 00:52
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Graphics cards do only 30bit AFAIK, the monitor probably too, and usually it requires to buy the workstation version of that, like NV Quadro or AMD FirePro. I'm certain that NVidia kneecapped their consumer cards in that regard, not sure with AMD. And it requires application support, too.
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Nov 23, 2014 15:08
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Oh nice. But still, I'm not sure how useful 40bit colors are on a TN panel (which is probably still 6bit FRC).
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Nov 23, 2014 17:55
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HalloKitty posted:"32-bit" as commonly seen is still 24-bit colour, but with an extra channel for transparency (alpha) information.
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Nov 23, 2014 17:57
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What's the panel tech that doesn't have glow? AM-VA?
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Dec 15, 2014 23:12
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I'm interested in the Dell P2715Q. I suppose Windows' high DPI mode is still a loving joke? Talking Windows 8.1 and beyond. Does the monitor interpolate or expect a fix resolution? Say for running games at 1080p instead of 4K.
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Apr 14, 2015 21:58
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4K sounded interesting for primarily photography and image editing. The resolution has also the advantage of allowing upscaling of 1080p games with an integer scale factor to 4K. And if HiDPI would work correctly in general (which it apparently doesn't), at 150% UIs would become easily legible without looking either mongohuge or too small. HiDPI is almost mandatory. If my main apps all work OK, I suppose I could accept that some others break. Otherwise I'll have to look again at 1440p. The P2715Q is being reviewed as pretty good and it's relatively cheap.
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Apr 15, 2015 17:33
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I wish these variable VSync techs would implement 23.96fps as minimum rate, for movie viewing. --edit: Wait, I'm dumb. Twice the rate 
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May 1, 2015 18:33
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TheQat posted:Are there any more IPS G-sync monitors known to be on the horizon? I'm really put off by the QC issues with the Acer, ease of RMAs notwithstanding I stumbled over the 1440p144 one from Acer earlier, and I was like "Woooooo, awesome colors for photo editing, and G-sync for gamez!" Hell, it doesn't do PWM either, another win. Then I entered this thread and I run into posts of QC issues. 
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Jun 11, 2015 00:58
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The Asus one will be FreeSync apparently? I don't think that'll work with NVidia cards (yet)?
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Jun 11, 2015 01:05
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Etrips posted:It will be GSYNC. https://pcdiy.asus.com/2015/06/asus-34-ultrawide-qhd-ips-219-curved-g-sync-monitor/
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Jun 11, 2015 10:35
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Fame Douglas posted:An Asus 1440p, 144 Hz IPS with G-Sync is on the horizon, slated for release in late August: http://www.overclock.net/t/1558309/various-asus-debuts-rog-swift-pg279q-144hz-ips-and-g-sync/0_50 Hopefully they're not the same panels as in the Acer, inferring similar drama.
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Jun 12, 2015 01:51
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Does GSync/FreeSync help in any way with watching movies? I'd figure if my favorite video player vsyncs at 48hz instead of 60hz, it can play 24p content smoothly.
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Jul 4, 2015 12:54
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HalloKitty posted:Maybe it would need to be set at 47.952 Hz? Most content is 23.976. I, too, am interested if this is trivial to do. Of course, that doesn't help with Netflix. --edit: Eh, I tried NVidia's custom modes and put my secondary display in 47.952hz mode and run MPC in fullscreen. Seems to work, video is suddenly so much smoother! Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Jul 4, 2015 |
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Jul 4, 2015 22:26
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What's the current go-to model of display for a 27" 1440p IPS with least glow? G-Sync would be nice, but purely optional. --edit: What about the Dell S2716DG? I know it's a TN panel, but people are swooning about it having decent color reproduction and none of the IPS glow and BLB bullshit. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Apr 6, 2016 |
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Apr 6, 2016 20:55
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Anti-Hero posted:I just ordered one of these from Amazon, so if you can wait through the weekend I can give my impressions then. Zorilla posted:You mean AH-VA, which is AUO's IPS technology. AM-VA is the one with deep blacks and is what you get if you really hate IPS bleed and glow and are willing to trade in some pixel response and viewing angle for it. My experience with TN shows that it still glows at the top and bottom when viewed head on. I guess I'll be looking into AM-VA, too. --edit: The 1440p ones all seem 32" only. Too big. :| Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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Apr 7, 2016 17:20
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I think I've read somewhere that Eizo changed panels eventually for that model. At the beginning they were practically glowless and evenly lit, but at some point this apparently changed. I had it earmarked a while ago. --edit: Nevermind, I think it was the EV2736. --edit2: Yeah, unless something like with the EV2736 happens until this summer, I'll be getting the EV2750. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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Apr 7, 2016 17:55
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Anti-Hero posted:Received the Dell SG2716, oh my is 144 Hz + Gsync such a stark contrast from 60 Hz. I've used the TFT central OSD settings and ICC profile and it looks pretty good, though the colors aren't near as vivid as my Eizo IPS. Meanwhile I've read things that the panel in the EV2750 is supposedly the same as in the Dell U2715H and some LG one (well, it is a LG panel). This is tricky, whether the extra for Eizo includes QC or just the branding.
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Apr 7, 2016 22:01
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Anti-Hero posted:Folks who are looking at the 144 Hz IPS monitors really owe it to themselves to look in to the Dell S2716DG. It's a TN monitor, but an extremely nice one. No IPS glow to deal with, and the colors are almost as nice as my Eizo 1440P IPS monitor.
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It's a TN panel. That said, with long term exposure, which'll overexaggerate effects, you'll always find a fault.
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Apr 12, 2016 14:43
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Out of curiosity, with Gsync/Freesync monitors, does proper frame timing in video playback automagically, or would the video player specifically need to support this?
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Apr 26, 2016 18:04
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Apparently you'll end up with plenty of color banding on gradients on the S2716DG, if you adjust the gamma from default. Not cool.
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Anything worthwhile regarding 1440p+GSync been announced on Computex, that suggests to be better than the QC shitshow that has been happening?
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May 31, 2016 17:56
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DrDork posted:I'd rather they announce some more quality 1440p IPS >75Hz monitors rather than jumping straight to 4k which would take a multi-GPU solution to even approach pushing properly. Yet here we are.
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Jun 1, 2016 01:03
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AOC is going to release their own 27" 1440p 165hz IPS monitor soon. I wonder if it's the same sort of poo poo show as with Acer and Asus, or whether it's of a higher quality, since they can cherrypick and ditch the rest to OEMs.
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Jun 8, 2016 22:34
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fozzy fosbourne posted:I don't think the XB271HU seems like a shitshow any more. That guy I linked earlier bought 5 panels and all were fine. I have a recertified and it's basically flawless.
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Jun 9, 2016 13:29
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Oh jesus, I hosed that one up then.  Regarding different things, apparently the Dell S2716DG possibly doesn't go HDCP on DisplayPort. Anyone can confirm?
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Are there any decent 4K IPS displays with GSync? I don't expect them to go beyond 60hz, but it'd be nice to be tear-free below and also be able to watch movies smoothly.
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Jun 12, 2016 11:19
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:http://pcpartpicker.com/product/QZwqqs/acer-monitor-umhx1aa002 --edit: Seems to have rather subpar panel uniformity regarding luminosity. --edit2: Ah gently caress it. Ordered an XB271HU. Lets play the lottery. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Jun 12, 2016 |
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So, my XB271HU arrived and that thing seems pretty drat nice. No pixel errors, no wild uniformity issues on first glances, BLB and glow remains to be seen when I don't have night shift. Also, the colors!  I thought I had my Samsungs calibrated nicely, but Jesus Christ... Also, why are DP cables that short?! --edit: Also, G-Sync... 
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Jun 14, 2016 14:40
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Now after using the XB271HU a few days, a G-Sync monitor was definitely worth it. If just for watching 24fps content smoothly instead of jittery like on 60hz panels.
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MeruFM posted:does 24p videos have to be full screen for gsync to kick in? Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 12:07 on Jun 18, 2016 |
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Jun 18, 2016 12:02
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Unless you managed to land on a really crappy panel, any amount of bias lighting makes the glow relatively unnoticeable. The glow on a decent IPS panel will certainly not be remotely as bad as what one knows from the IPS panels found in cheap laptops. If you value higher pixel density, VA panels are out of the question.
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Rad Gravity posted:I've never used bias lighting though, I usually watch movies in the dark. Rad Gravity posted:I'm not sure I understand the comment about pixel density, isn't that just a matter of resolution and panel size? How would the type of panel make a difference?
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