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Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007




Echo Bazaar is a web-based RPG created by Failbetter Games. Currently in Beta, the game is set in Victorian London, by way of Lovecraft and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. The city has "fallen" underground and become incorporated as the Fifth City ruled by the Masters of the Bazaar, a hooded, mysterious group of figures. Devils, golem and squid-men roam the streets.

The games uses Twitter and Facebook for logging in, and rewards tweeting about the game with extra actions.

The Basics

The games focuses on 4 main traits - Dangerous, Persuasive, Watchful, and Shadowy, and they're used to play the storylets present within the world. It's here the game excels - it's genuinely well-written and engaging, filled with intrigue surrounding the various mysteries within the game. You have a large amount of freedom for developing traits, as there's no true classes within the game, just a few hooks that will encourage you to develop certain ones over others. Want to play a foppish detective who seduces everyone he comes across? Time to boost Persuasive at Veilgarden. Want to play a school-of-hard-knocks spy-woman? Start off beating up folks on Watchmaker's Hill.

Levelling up

Levelling up is done by participating in "storylets" which are accessed in each location - each trait has one or two locations dedicated to it, which you either start off with access to or have to buy/earn access to. Storylets within locations tend to be simple events, such as following a person without being seen, which typically test a certain trait, in this case Shadowy. More complex storylets are accessed via cards - these can activate continuing storylines, such as seducing devils or helping out spies.

By succeeding these storylets, you'll gain experience point, as well as items and in some cases, connections to the various factions within the game. Failing will gain some points, so it can be worthwhile doing impossible tasks on a whim early on. Items within the game are used to open up more locations, perform special storylets, or can be sold in the Bazaar to buy stat-boosting items and other goods.

But Echo Bazaar isn't just concerned with small stuff which can be done within a few turns. As time goes on, you can dedicate yourself to one of four ambitions, which tend to focus on two of your four traits. These are life-changing events which will span the entire length of the game as you level up, in some cases opening up unique areas of the game.

So how do I play with Gooooooons???

Player interaction is pretty limited, and tends to focused on working off negative qualities such as Nightmares, Scandal, or Suspicion, or getting items which act as second chances for storylets. In order to do these things you need to be following the person on Twitter or Facebook - so if you want some help within the game, make sure to post your accounts!

Current List, courtesy of MY PALE GOTH SKIN

Goons who are definitely active currently:

Antivehicular:
SeverineChamberlain (Shadowy/Persuasive focus, newly a PoSI, will rob museums upon request) (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/SeverineChamberlain)
Cornelis Callewaard (Watchful/Dangerous focus) (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Cornelis~Callewaard)
Lucy Flowers (Dangerous/Watchful focus) (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lucy~Flowers)
The Curious Expatriate (Persuasive/Watchful focus) (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/The~Curious~Expatriate)

"I'll accept social actions that don't involve boxes of live animals or being poisoned, although I have no further interest in the Affluent Photographer, and I may postpone Menace-dumpers if the alt in question is at a dangerous level. I'm happy to help people grind Second Chances and/or MW, though."

prometheusbound2 - MPAmes2 (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/MPAmes2)
Sekenr - Deemitka (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Deemitka)
Gravy Train Robber - Gabriel_Syme (Persuasive/Watchful focus) (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Gabriel_Syme)
Prop Wash - Vorxnyx (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Vorxnyx)
MY PALE GOTH SKIN - OleanderPale (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/OleanderPale)
December Octopodes - Hempwick (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hempwick)
ProfessorCirno - ProfessorCirno (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/ProfessorCirno)
lost in postation - Edwina Saint Clair (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Edwina~Saint~Clair)
glaucus atlanticus - Glaucus Atlanticus (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Glaucus~Atlanticus)
Anoia - Rue Verscel (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rue~Versce)
wrr - Plyem (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Plyem)
Davethulhu - Davethulhu (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Davethulhu)
Artificer - Mr Wrenches (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Mr~Wrenches)
kurona_bright - eightbitsprite (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/eightbitsprite)
CK07 - CK07 (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/CK07)
Fighting Trousers - nazzy (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/nazzy)
Virigoth - hoboloafers (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/hoboloafers)
vetinari100 - Ján Šilan (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/J%C3%A1n~%C5%A0ilan)
Blackula69 - foxtrot1 (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Foxtrot1)
Ephemeron - Passionario (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/Passionario)
Ace of Knaves - Lady Knaves (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lady~Knaves)
Bellophon - Bellophon (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Bellophon)
lowly - Daidamia (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Daidamia)
ZealousQ - Travis Jordan(http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Travis~Jordan)
Wyld Karde - Wyld Karde (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Wyld~Karde)
Pyrolocutus - Pyrflamme (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Pyrflamme)
Patware - Jasper Stevens (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Jasper~Stevens)
deadmeat5051 - deadmeat5051 (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/deadmeat5150)

Goons who still exist, from the last roundup, and have public profiles:

Not So Fast - slowbullet (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/slowbullet)
xdistak - goonar (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/goonar)
Wachepti - Wachepti (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Wachepti)
onefish - CrashLaunching (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/CrashLaunching)
Cantaloupe - Firestomp (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Firestomp)
Rueish- Rueish (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rueish)
Wutasumi - RTFMSmith (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/RTFMSmith)
El_Molestadore - Crypticant (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Crypticant)
rev.justin - madjnunofirem (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/madjnunofirem)
catfrog - La_Poodle (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/La_Poodle)
Corridor - castigious (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/castigious)
Mr. Spooky - DJCrashOverride (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/DJCrashOverride)
Red Mundus - Red_Mundus (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Red_Mundus
oldskool - shigogouhou (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/shigogouhou)
hemophilia - laserspewpew (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/laserspewpew)
Blisster - VirusBazaar (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/VirusBazaar)
Sneaksie Taffer - sometaffer (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/sometaffer)
GirlBones - niko_myshkin (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/niko_myshkin)
fnord2323 - fnord2323 (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/fnord2323)
Goodchild - TrevorGood (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TrevorGood)
Riidi WW - RiidiWW (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/RiidiWW)
CancerCakes - Hushcakes (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hushcakes)
Mistikman - Mistikman01 (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Mistikman01)
A Plaid Silhouette - trueflight (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/trueflight)
Brydinut - Brydian (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Brydian)
Davos - Davos (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Davos)
Geokinesis - IanPopuli (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/IanPopuli)
Colon V - JackOfSparks (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/JackOfSparks)
Amyclas - Amyclas Amatin (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Amyclas~Amatin)
Wolpertinger - Wolpertinger (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Wolpertinger)
Memnaelar - Miguel Maria Duran (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Miguel~Maria~Duran)
Ijuuin Enzan - Enzan (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Enzan)
Sesquiculus - Sesquiculus (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sesquiculus)
darthbob88 - Raymond R Price (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Raymond~R~Price)
Sodomy Non Sapiens - Thomas Blackstone (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Thomas~Blackstone)
MILTONS COD - Lord Coward (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lord~Coward) / Count Riario (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/)Count~Riario
Fruits of the sea - Veruca (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Veruca)

Goons who still exist, from the last roundup, who don't have public profiles.

Hiryu Protagonist - HiryuProtagonis
ninety - THE_REAL_GOKU
StarkRavingMad - Sravingmad
Grilox - Kuroyanagiryou
Dinho Eledair - Dinho_Eledair
Mozi - smozi14
Dallan Invictus - DallanInvictus
Alaemon - Kumeatel
Colton - chadlicious
darthbob88 - darthbob88
Hotwire - ErasmusJacobs
SimonChris - SimonChris
Whitenoise Poster - WhitenoiseTwitt
Elswyyr - elswyyr
Ripley - Fitzquaid
TJO - LionelCrumb
Dammit Who? - BatsYouOrdered
Silvergun1000 - Silvergun1000
Boing - Shahmat
Ziji - Zijijiji
Kinfolk910 - Gryphon Exnihilus
pocketwatch - Detective_Cynic
gowb - JozefHall
Gnome de plume - Unter_Calaris, Marquis_de_Fist
Clocks - clocksprocket
El Murguista - Ravi_Natarajan
Harrigan - sempertardus

Heeeeelp!

Stuck? Try having a look at the Echo Bazaar Wiki, it's pretty extensive in most areas... and frustratingly barren in others, so also feel free to ask in this thread too.

Fate Guide: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3372867&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=68#post445904373

Not So Fast fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Jun 11, 2015

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RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
My twitter account is Somerandompaul. Feel free to add me if you want some help drinking wine, sharing nightmares, burgling houses, etc.

xdistak
Jul 8, 2003
I'm a huge faggot who needs to learn that money can't solve all of life's problems.
Added you guys. Just starting, but my Nightmares are already getting out of control, even with a cheerful goldfish equipped. I just can't afford to keep selling items for Laudanum at this point. I won't forget it if you guys can help.

For a browser game, it's pretty addictive to build your character up. I think it's because of how your action points refresh over the course of a day.

I'm goonar, add away.

GoodluckJonathan
Oct 31, 2003

Ok this seems really neat. Love the atmosphere. Twitter is "Wachepti", which I created for the express purpose of playing this game(don't have a Facebook or Twitter).

e: Woah, some of you are pretty far along it seems like. Any tips for a new player? Can you actually die in this game or what?

quote:

Just starting, but my Nightmares are already getting out of control
Mine too. Invited you over for some stimulating conversation. Perhaps that will help one of us.

GoodluckJonathan fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Dec 15, 2010

StupidSexyMothman
Aug 9, 2010

Any bad things that stack up (Wounds, Suspicion & Nightmares off the top of my head) aren't really that bad. Especially early on you're better off ignoring them & dealing with them when the game forces you to as opposed to spending what little money you can scrounge together to only delay that inevitable conclusion.

GoodluckJonathan
Oct 31, 2003

So if my nightmare is at 4(thanks Mr. Eaten) I don't really need to worry about it?

Hiryu Protagonist
Oct 22, 2004
drat, I'm sorry I checked this thread, now I won't be able to stop playing this game. It's a bit grindy as usual for a daily browser game but the setting is interesting. Feel free to add me as HiryuProtagonis.

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer
I've been playing this since around the end of October. I thought about making a thread, but figured from observation that the mere mention of Twitter would drive people into a frothing rage.

Speaking from some of that experience, don't worry about Menaces like Nightmares, or Scandal, or what have you when you first start out. If they get too high, you just get confined to a special region until you've worked the problem down some. By the time they become a real problem (when a failed test has the chance of raising an associated Menace) you'll have a fucknormous nest-egg of crap to sell, and will be making enough off your successes to keep madness or transport at bay.

Brock Samsonite
Feb 3, 2010

Reality becomes illusory and observer-oriented when you study general relativity. Or Buddhism. Or get drafted.

Wow, I'm really impressed by this game. The writing IS very good.

It took me awhile to figure out what's going on, but I've established myself alright.

Feel free to add me, HerrGomez to help with all your Nightmarish needs.

We can talk about weird dreams, the price of rat meat lately, that creepy loving idol I keep on my dresser. Whatever you want! Hey, want a back massage?

BluePard
Jan 24, 2009
One thing I would advise new players is that if you're given any free Fate, hold on to it. Don't spend it on candles or whatnot. You'll want it to open up extra plots later on. You only get free Fate early on or if the site has troubles, you won't keep getting it.

ninety
Mar 13, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo

(and can't post for 4 years!)

THE_REAL_GOKU (twitter) needs a Sparring partner, add me if you think you're a bad enough dude to go ten rounds in the hyperbolic time chamber.

Funso Banjo
Dec 22, 2003

ninety posted:

THE_REAL_GOKU (twitter) needs a Sparring partner, add me if you think you're a bad enough dude to go ten rounds in the hyperbolic time chamber.

I would add you, but THE_REAL_GOKU? Really?

Seriously, how do I add someone? I don't just follow you on Twitter, do I? Because I have followed a couple of you, and it isn't letting me select you for actions.

GoodluckJonathan
Oct 31, 2003

I can't believe how everything seems to be connected and completely thought out. I was reading on another forum that some speculate that the dream cards are matched up with the fate of the previous stolen cities. If true, that is so cool.

The idea of all these mysteries relating to the fifth city that one can get a reward for figuring out is very appealing. Typically if I'm stumped in a game I can just gamefaqs it or whatever. The lack of easy answers is great.

It's been said before but the writing is just so goddamn entertaining.

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Wachepti posted:

I can't believe how everything seems to be connected and completely thought out. I was reading on another forum that some speculate that the dream cards are matched up with the fate of the previous stolen cities. If true, that is so cool.

The idea of all these mysteries relating to the fifth city that one can get a reward for figuring out is very appealing. Typically if I'm stumped in a game I can just gamefaqs it or whatever. The lack of easy answers is great.

It's been said before but the writing is just so goddamn entertaining.

There was a previous post on the blog concerning just how the various writers collaberate with each other on building the world.

onefish
Jan 15, 2004

Was wondering if there would be a Something Awful thread for this! Looks like I get in on the ground floor. My #ebz twitter account is CrashLaunching. Feel free to add me.

As many people have said, the writing and world are the real draws here, and I'm impressed by the blog posts where failbetter has made clear that they have plans and actual answers for all the mysteries they hint at. But even the stat/echo grind is kind of addictive, as it lets you progress in the world.

Mechanics talk (could be considered spoilsport type stuff)

The other browser-based game I've played a lot of, Kingdom of Loathing, has tons of people spading out the mechanics and an utterly comprehensive wiki. Echo Bazaar has several wikis, all of which are woefully incomplete - and furthermore, all flawed in design in various ways, so I can't even tell which I should be contributing to, if I want to contribute. http://echobazaar.wikidot.com/ is the first that shows up on google, and seems like it has a lot of info, so I figure it might end up being the main one, but the interface just seems flawed.

And all these wikis are content-wikis. None seem to be investigating the mechanics. Has anyone seen any mechanics investigation? Because I'm interested, I figured I'd start trying to figure some of the mechanics out, beginning with stat advancement. I just started tracking, but anyone else is welcome to start doing so, too, so we can combine data.

Here's what I've found so far, since beginning tracking yesterday.

Straightforward: Success is guaranteed, 1 change point.

Low Risk: Appears to be 1 change point on success, 1 pt on fail. Not enough data for chances. But risk does appear low. Hypothesis based on memory - either 90% or 95% chance of success, leaning toward 90.

Modest: So far, 29 successes, 12 failures. Appears to be 2pts on both success and failure. Hypothesis: either a 75% or 66% chance of success.

Chancy: So far, 33 successes, 31 failures. 3 pts on success, 2 on failure (though I thought I got 3 on failure once, I must have been wrong). Hypothesis 50% chance of success.

High risk: So far 5 successes, 18 failures. 4 pts on success, 3 on failure. Hypothesis either a 25% or 33.3% chance of success.

Almost impossible: so far 0 successes, 3 failures, though I know I've had successes before. 5 change points on success, 3 on failure. Hypothesis: Either a 5% or 10% chance of success, leaning toward 10.

I don't know if there are divisions in percentage chance between levels, when you gain a level in the ability but the riskiness doesn't change -- are you slightly more likely to succeed, then?

What other mechanics questions could we be figuring out? Stuff like running battle/casing/etc change points required as level rises? How often you get a rare success on a storylet or opportunity? etc. I think I'll focus on stats for now, but I'm also curious about the running battle stuff because I want to figure out if it's "worth it" in terms of loot, for the number of turns you put in.

Brock Samsonite
Feb 3, 2010

Reality becomes illusory and observer-oriented when you study general relativity. Or Buddhism. Or get drafted.

I can't seem to find out how the "Venture" things you have to build up are useful. Like "Investigating..." or "Running Battle..." I've stopped doing them because in the 8-10 actions it could take for me to get the CHANCE to finish it, I could be succeeding on smaller challenges and making a ton of Echoes, or failing harder ones and getting much more skill.

Sure you'll stumble across the occasional Opportunity card that will give you a bonus to your progress attribute, but they're usually so costly that you're reward is marginalized by what you paid into the Opportunity .

Has anyone (particularly those of you more established) found any particularly worthwhile Ventures, or are they usually not worth the time investment?

Yessod
Mar 21, 2007

Brock Samsonite posted:

Has anyone (particularly those of you more established) found any particularly worthwhile Ventures, or are they usually not worth the time investment?

At higher levels there are some very fun ones. Shadowy around a modified 80 lets you build up a Venture which lets you rob places for huge piles of items. Also, robbing the Bazaar had some of the most awesome text I've seen so far.

GoodluckJonathan
Oct 31, 2003

Anyone have any idea of what's going on with Mr. Sacks? What happened last year?

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer
The Ventures are mainly small plots, I think. At least some of them unlock Opportunities later on, but if you're more interested in the grind then you're probably just as well to skip them.

My only brush with Mr. Sacks so far has been an Opportunity with a few of the urchins that work for him. There were several options, I think all but one of which cost Fate, and involved gift-giving and eavesdropping. Like the Rubbery Man who dropped by my garret around Hallowe'en, I suspect he and his urchins are just a rare seasonal Opportunity with an odd little flair.

Edit: No, I misremembered. There's a new event attached to Your Lodgings that involves Mr. Sacks-- who isn't making the rounds yet. Currently there's a Persuasive challenge (straightforward at 50+), a Shadowy one (still almost impossible at 36) and a 'send a little thing to a friend' option for 5 Fate.

Bieeanshee fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Dec 22, 2010

Sir Ophiuchus
Jan 31, 2007

by T. Finninho
Anyone want to exchange gifts via Mr Sacks?

I'm @AsclepiusUnbnd on Twitter, and I'm hoping to accumulate the set of objects the Duchess is looking for. But I need people willing to exchange packages with me! :) If you send me one, I'll send one back.

l33t Lurker
Aug 31, 2001
Does logging in to this via my Facebook mean I'll be sending everybody I know dozens of updates about how my gadwhallopper has reached level 50 and they can click now to join me? I'm not really interested in being that person.

Sir Ophiuchus
Jan 31, 2007

by T. Finninho

l33t Lurker posted:

Does logging in to this via my Facebook mean I'll be sending everybody I know dozens of updates about how my gadwhallopper has reached level 50 and they can click now to join me? I'm not really interested in being that person.

It never posts without you telling it to. And if you *do* want to post updates (you get an action refill for so doing), just set up a Twitter account and roleplay on it, like a lot of people are doing. You can tell it which of Facebook or Twitter to post on, also.

Tricky
Jun 12, 2007

after a great meal i like to lie on the ground and feel like garbage


What ambition are you guys following? I'm doing Heart's Desire, currently at the point where I need to get 76 more First City coins to get my stake ready and have the bishop tell me about the next two players. Talk about the ultimate grind, unless I can somehow get the coins for cheaper than 6.66 echoes per. Not really sure what the best option is for that. :suicide:

If anyone with Persuasive or Shadowy at 70+ is up for a museum heist subplot, I could scrounge together enough CC to start that off for you in a day or two.

edit: Twitter is @citamoixa.

Tricky fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Dec 29, 2010

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
This looks interesting. I'm in as Sravingmad on Twitter. Followed everyone in this thread.

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

Bieeardo posted:

Speaking from some of that experience, don't worry about Menaces like Nightmares, or Scandal, or what have you when you first start out. If they get too high, you just get confined to a special region until you've worked the problem down some. By the time they become a real problem (when a failed test has the chance of raising an associated Menace) you'll have a fucknormous nest-egg of crap to sell, and will be making enough off your successes to keep madness or transport at bay.

And to game the system a little bit, if you have responsive friends, it's really easy and free to reduce nightmares (and I assume the other menaces have similar solutions).

Invite a smarter friend to a game of chess = Sudden Insights. Sudden Insights + high Nightmare score allows you to invite a friend over to unburden yourself and discuss your nightmares and fears. I just did this and reduced my Nightmares from high 6 down to 4, for the cost of only three actions.

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


Pretty sure you give your friends nightmares when you do that.

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

Potsticker posted:

Pretty sure you give your friends nightmares when you do that.

Oh do I? Sorry friends, I didn't know that!

GoodluckJonathan
Oct 31, 2003

You do give them nightmares, but it seems like the reduction is much higher than the gain they receive. xDistak and I have been bouncing nightmares off each other the past week or so and it's been working out for both of us.

Sir Ophiuchus
Jan 31, 2007

by T. Finninho
When you confess your fears to someone, your Nightmares drop a lot and theirs go up a little. So if you confess fears to one another in turn, it's a net loss of Nightmares for you both.

Edit: drat, ninja'd. Anyway, if anyone's up from trading Christmas gifts via Mr Sacks (the one where you pay 5 Fate), message me on Twitter (@AsclepiusUnbnd).

Sir Ophiuchus fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Dec 30, 2010

Gloomy Rube
Mar 4, 2008



This game is a lot of fun. It's really Lovecraftian, but without the "humans are worthless" part of it. I like running around solving mysteries and learning the lore.

My twitter that I used to sign up for this is Kuroyanagiryou. So if anyone wants to do whatever, I'm game.

Gloomy Rube fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Dec 30, 2010

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Tricky posted:

What ambition are you guys following? I'm doing Heart's Desire, currently at the point where I need to get 76 more First City coins to get my stake ready and have the bishop tell me about the next two players. Talk about the ultimate grind, unless I can somehow get the coins for cheaper than 6.66 echoes per. Not really sure what the best option is for that. :suicide:

If anyone with Persuasive or Shadowy at 70+ is up for a museum heist subplot, I could scrounge together enough CC to start that off for you in a day or two.

edit: Twitter is @citamoixa.

The best option I found was to grind Criminials connections at the Carnival until they're roughly 17/18, then do the Criminals options several times. Getting the materials for it only takes a few turns stealing Moon-pearls in Spite, and a few turns re-grinding connections in the Carnival, so you can get the coins within 10-15 turns each time.

For the Musuem Heist, I'm interested but I'd have to use my personal twitter, which is [redacted]
.

Not So Fast fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Dec 31, 2010

Mode 7
Jul 28, 2007

This game is fantastic. I can't believe I didn't know about this before I saw the thread here. I'm loving the writing and the atmosphere. Very Lovecraftian as other people have mentioned, but it also reminds me of China Meiville (Perdido Street Station specifically) a little in that there's a living world there and you're just scratching the surface picking up the terminology as you go.

I'm also starting to see some very...interesting things now that my nightmares have hit 7. Probably my own fault for making my standard response to mysterious and probably evil things "hey what's that and what can I learn from it?".

Is there any point in trying to up all four stats to begin with? Should I just be focusing on one? On the the two for my ambition? I guess I just wonder what I'm missing out on with my low dangerous/shadowy qualities.

Sir Ophiuchus
Jan 31, 2007

by T. Finninho
There are frequently alternate approaches to challenges later, that can be easier / give better rewards if another stat is high.

Tricky
Jun 12, 2007

after a great meal i like to lie on the ground and feel like garbage


Not So Fast posted:

The best option I found was to grind Criminials connections at the Carnival until they're roughly 17/18, then do the Criminals options several times. Getting the materials for it only takes a few turns stealing Moon-pearls in Spite, and a few turns re-grinding connections in the Carnival, so you can get the coins within 10-15 turns each time.

For the Musuem Heist, I'm interested but I'd have to use my personal twitter, which is (got it)
.

I'll follow you once I have 400 cryptic clues. Should be either today or tomorrow. Wrote down your twitter, though, so feel free to edit that out.

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Thanks!

Has anyone done / completed the new University content yet? (MAJOR spoilers for it next, concerning the very last storylet by my guess)

I'm currently wondering who to pick as the murderer, the Provost or the Cryptozoologist, but I'd need to advance a level to Watchful 108 to pick either. Is delaying until tomorrow a good idea?

GoodluckJonathan
Oct 31, 2003

For anyone looking to rank up Knife and Candle these are some people I just murdered (I'm around rank 11 score 30 dangerous 39) and their strategies:

Molly Murder - the decoy
Nocturne - the best defense...
Nico Borgogni - the best defense...
Brian Stewart - the decoy
Chicki - the best defense...
Worldbeing - the best defense...

GoodluckJonathan fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Jan 1, 2011

Tricky
Jun 12, 2007

after a great meal i like to lie on the ground and feel like garbage


Not So Fast posted:

The best option I found was to grind Criminials connections at the Carnival until they're roughly 17/18, then do the Criminals options several times. Getting the materials for it only takes a few turns stealing Moon-pearls in Spite, and a few turns re-grinding connections in the Carnival, so you can get the coins within 10-15 turns each time.

For the Musuem Heist, I'm interested but I'd have to use my personal twitter, which is [redacted]
.

Alright, I have 400 cryptic clues and I followed you on twitter. Once you follow me back I can start the heist.

Dinho Eledair
Feb 20, 2006

My twitter is Dinho_Eledair for this if anyone wants to add me.

http://twitter.com/Dinho_Eledair/

Dinho Eledair fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jan 1, 2011

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
Anyone have a good place to get Greyfields 1882s? I need like 200 of them for my Ambition and they seem pretty rare to find.

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RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Does anyone know how to get the jewels to make a bejeweled walking stick?

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