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iyaayas01 posted:Last Days in Vietnam. I watched this last night. Pretty strong stuff.
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Duong Thi Xuan Quy became North Vietnam's first female war correspondent, but - and it's a familiar story in a country where three million died - she never came home.
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Sperglord Actual posted:Duong Thi Xuan Quy became North Vietnam's first female war correspondent, but - and it's a familiar story in a country where three million died - she never came home. South Korean Marines? She's super dead. They had a pretty savage rep from what I recall reading. Intersting seeing stuff from the other side.
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Who wants to see a B-17 making low passes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGGynxYbA48 me
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LingcodKilla posted:South Korean Marines? She's super dead. They had a pretty savage rep from what I recall reading. South Korean Marines fighting for South Vietnam? drat, what a war
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Insane Totoro posted:South Korean Marines fighting for South Vietnam? And if I had said Koreans someone would have been lol south or north lol. Can't win. And they were fighting under NATO no?
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Insane Totoro posted:South Korean Marines fighting for South Vietnam? Let's for a start assume that they were just fighting in South Vietnam...
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LingcodKilla posted:And if I had said Koreans someone would have been lol south or north lol. Can't win. Considering Korea is nowhere near the North Atlantic I doubt it. I think they just offered to send troops on their own accord, kinda like Australia.
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Considering Korea is nowhere near the North Atlantic I doubt it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Korea_Marine_Corps#Vietnam_War TL;DR the ROK Marines were pretty..... um, brutal
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LingcodKilla posted:And if I had said Koreans someone would have been lol south or north lol. Can't win. The gently caress's got NATO to do with the Vietnam conflict? Other than first the French and then the US being involved?
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I'm not surprised to find out that South Koreans are experts at torturing and massacring unarmed civilians.
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B4Ctom1 posted:Who wants to see a B-17 making low passes? Everyone watch this
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Throatwarbler posted:I'm not surprised to find out that South Koreans are experts at torturing and massacring unarmed civilians. Its easy to forget that south Korea was a military dictatorship until the 80's. It's changed a lot in the last 30 years.
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Throatwarbler posted:I'm not surprised to find out that South Koreans are experts at torturing and massacring unarmed civilians. I can't tell if this is some sort of casual racism or what.
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Dead Reckoning posted:I can't tell if this is some sort of casual racism or what. How about : Well, they learned from the best.
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Dead Reckoning posted:I can't tell if this is some sort of casual racism or what. A heap of massacres in the Korean war were done by the South mainly against their own people suspected of being communists. Rhee was a helluva ally. Also they drafted a whole bunch of troops to deal with the Chinese invasion and whoops forgot to feed them so maybe a quarter of them died because of it. Which, when half a million men were drafted, was a pretty big number.
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hobbesmaster posted:How about : Well, they learned from the best. Australians?
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Throatwarbler posted:I'm not surprised to find out that South Koreans are experts at torturing and massacring unarmed civilians. Us too! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Gun_Ri_Massacre
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Koesj posted:The gently caress's got NATO to do with the Vietnam conflict? Other than first the French and then the US being involved? Oops my bad for having faulty memory. They just fought under American overall leadership. Do you feel better now?
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hobbesmaster posted:How about : Well, they learned from the best. Um...the Japanese? The Germans and arguably the Soviets were both better at it than them, though.
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Insane Totoro posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Korea_Marine_Corps#Vietnam_War The Marine Corps has no aircraft of its own, relying on air support from the Army and Navy. We could only wish this was American marines.
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Mortabis posted:Um...the Japanese? The Germans and arguably the Soviets were both better at it than them, though. Aw come on this discussion again Let me tell you how this will go: 1) the Japanese, the Germans and the Soviets were mostly on the same level, it's just the Japanese got there first, and 2) then it gets thrown out to history in general and its all Mongols vs. Aztecs
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Nebakenezzer posted:Aw come on this discussion again The Hardcore History podcast episodes Wrath of the Khans is pretty great and has a healthy level of  You killed our diplomat? Well after we smash your army in battle we'll build a stage on top of all your survivors and eat lunch on it while you all are crushed to death. Didn't surrender your city? Time to sharpen our blades and make the production line of hacking everyone we don't like(which is 90% of you) to death.
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Mortabis posted:Um...the Japanese? The Germans and arguably the Soviets were both better at it than them, though. Japan has been oppressing the region since before Germany and Russia existed.
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Saudi Arabia might not quite be willing to shoot down an Iranian aircraft headed into Yemen, but they'll totally make that finall approach a bitch by bombing the runway before you can land. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/28/yemen-security-airport-idUSL8N0XP5FM20150428 http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/saudis-intercept-yemen-bound-iranian-jet-bomb-runway-t-1701242464
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Dead-on with those aimpoints.
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mlmp08 posted:Saudi Arabia might not quite be willing to shoot down an Iranian aircraft headed into Yemen, but they'll totally make that finall approach a bitch by bombing the runway before you can land. It would have been nice if the Reuters article actually said even vaguely what type of aircraft the Iranian one was. "an aircraft" can be a whoooole lot of things. I wasn't thinking Airbus when I read that article.
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Alaan posted:It would have been nice if the Reuters article actually said even vaguely what type of aircraft the Iranian one was. "an aircraft" can be a whoooole lot of things. I wasn't thinking Airbus when I read that article. The jets then bombed Sanaa airport as the plane was making an approach to land, forcing it to turn back, IRNA said. It said the plane, belonging to the Red Crescent, was carrying food and medical aid to Sanaa.
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I'm sure that plane was flying as much food and medical aid as the Qaher-313. VVVV possibly in the sense that 50% of the plane was used for food and medicine, and 50% for weapons 
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50/50 that's the truth.
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You'd think that you would fly a plane that actually had food/medicine first then when it isn't shot down you bring in the guns.
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LingcodKilla posted:The jets then bombed Sanaa airport as the plane was making an approach to land, forcing it to turn back, IRNA said. It said the plane, belonging to the Red Crescent, was carrying food and medical aid to Sanaa. Imagine that, the state owned news outlet didn't admit anything incriminating about the Iranian equivalent of Air America. http://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/tg1322.aspx http://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/jl1965.aspx http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20120919.aspx
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Propagandalf posted:Imagine that, the state owned news outlet didn't admit anything incriminating about the Iranian equivalent of Air America. If you throw a cliff bar and a first aid pack on top of a pile of weaponry, you aren't technically a liar!
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CLP is gun medicine, x39 is gun food. E: EFPs cure arrogance
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LingcodKilla posted:Oops my bad for having faulty memory. They just fought under American overall leadership. SEATO was a thing I mean, it was a completely pointless and useless thing (that South Korea wasn't a part of), but it was a thing nonetheless. The ROK forces in South Vietnam actually numbered relatively significantly (300,000 troops total, a full division deployed at any one given time), they were there based on a request from the US, also a general antipathy towards anyone who identified as Communist. During the same duration as the Korean involvement in the Vietnam War (mid to late '60s) the North had significantly increased their involvement in the South, to the point where it was basically a low-grade war. So it makes sense that the South was interested in "fighting Communism."
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iyaayas01 posted:SEATO was a thing From what I understand, a lot of the reason there were ROK troops in Vietnam was that the US offered to pay a lot of money, to help try to provide some international legitimacy to the fight. Both US and ROK marines had a bad reputation in Vietnam in terms of atrocities, so it evens out.
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USAF A-10s in Estonia for some joint excercises. Gallery: http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudised/eesti/fotod-amari-lennuvaljal-maandusid-usa-rundelennukid?id=71376481
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Panzeh posted:From what I understand, a lot of the reason there were ROK troops in Vietnam was that the US offered to pay a lot of money, to help try to provide some international legitimacy to the fight. Did anybody in that war not have a bad reputation? The ANZAC forces?
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Khmers rouges, the only sufficiently revolutionary movement ever to have existed.
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