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B4Ctom1
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My favorite Minuteman III video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChhYOO1s-nY

requesting picture of Air Force truck on the tarmac wrapped around the landing gear of a parked aircraft.

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According to the internet, during the cold war, some near dozen US nuclear weapons and estimated 40 former soviet nuclear weapons were lost and never recovered. This does not count any european or asian losses.

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Backpack nukes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Atomic_Demolition_Munition


suitcase nukes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suitcase_nuke

Click here for the full 640x450 image.

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The AIR-2 Genie nuclear air to air missiles.



There were actually a handful of other different nuclear air to air missile projects deployed but there were 3000 of the Genie made and they were in service until 1985 when the Canadians finally retired them.

One live munition was actually fired in 1957 in operation Plumbbob at 15,000 feet.

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iyaayas01 posted:

:eng101: pedantry...the AIR-2 was actually unguided, making it technically a rocket and not a missile. Yes, they put a nuclear warhead on an unguided rocket.

Here's a pretty cool picture of the Plumbbob-John shot:



I guess the guys who flew through that cloud had the highest radiation doses of anyone at a nuclear test.

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wkarma posted:

You left out the best part...it was on a timer. Set timer, launch in the vague direction of a soviet bomber formation, beat feet and hope you kinda sorta had the range right.

From Wikipedia

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Detonation was by time-delay fuze, although the fuzing mechanism would not arm the warhead until engine burn-out, to give the launch aircraft sufficient time to turn and escape. Lethal radius of the blast was estimated to be about 300 meters (1,000 ft).

300 meter kill radius? A bear has a loving wingspan of 50 meters. So you are supposed to aim this thing to where the bombers are supposed to be when it detonates? A loving bear moves at 250 meters per second. If you miss the formation by 4 seconds they would be 1000 meters away from your poor shot.

Either they are underestimating the kill radius, or you had to be very lucky with this thing. There is no way that if you were 2000 meters away from this detonation in a Bear that you could just fly along without problem. Firing this thing into a group of bombers would probably get the job done.

I can't understand why they wouldn't have continued with this one instead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-26_Falcon

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NosmoKing posted:

Rocket fun time!
Here in SE Wyoming we are surrounded by the remnants and still active silos of the cold war. Titan and Atlas launch sites of every kind are all around. I thought at one time it would be cool to own one. Then I found out that the ground water in and around most of these places is contaminated with the most horrific birthdefect/cancerous/poisonous chemicals ever devised to propel rockets. Chemicals with 20 letters in the name and followed by a dash and a number.

We also have active minuteman III sites stretching from here across Nebraska to the Kansas border. Lastly we have the daddy of all ICBM's the LGM-118 Peacekeeper "MX" missiles in 50 silos. The only ones that were ever made.

The cold war was special to me because my main job while in he air force was to guard and control access to these babies. I saw the Berlin Wall fall from a tiny TV screen while on alert. Then watched as other events associated with Perestroika signaled the beginning of the end of the actual cold war.

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The new cold war
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/World/20110105/china-leaked-stealth-fighter-photos-110105/

pics


video
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=53d_1294436432

Sure Chinese avionics may be 20 years behind, but they don't have to waste much resource in R&D. But there is the fact that they have no less than 5 different stealth aircraft projects. By the time these things are flying they will be getting their clocks cleaned by US made UCAV Omnicorp/Cyberdyne Robo-Planes which can out speed or out-G their missiles let alone their guns.

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I like turtles posted:

Someone needs to come with me on this tour: http://www.titanmissilemuseum.org/view.php?pg=10

I can convince my fiance to do the one hour tour, but four and a half hours of climbing around a missile complex is beyond her interest level.

I would love to own that. t makes my 50 BMG look boring by comparison :v:

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from here:
http://www.fas.org/blog/ssp/2009/11/locations.php

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Approximately 50 B61 nuclear bombs inside an igloo at what might be Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada. Seventy-five igloos at Nellis store “one of the largest stockpile in the free world,” according to the U.S. Air Force, one of four central storage sites in the United States.

I have been reading about a few times in war games where SU-30's are beating US aircraft because of their passive IR sensor. I knew about this sensor and the Russians used to tout it as an incredible capability for tracking down invading bombers or while fighting aircraft in the sky.

This sensor allows them to find and close in with other aircraft without ever emitting radar signals and giving up the ghost.

The US answer to this is the AWACS. It can transmit information right to the radar screen of the fighter aircraft it is supporting. This information is displayed to the fighter as if it has its own radar on but much more powerfully than it could ever emit. Enough info to even allow it to launch radar guided missiles beyond the normal capability.

What the Indian Air Force did was commit a massive force to take out the AWACS (at simulated great cost/sacrifice to themselves). Then they used passive IR equipped aircraft to mop up the remaining US planes who were forced to turn on their radars or stand zero chance.

picture of sensor just ahead of cockpit:


Supposedly this sensor is just a larger souped-up version of the argon cooled seeker found in air to air missiles. I understand that not only does this passive sensor detect but it scans and displays the info on a kind of little radar like display to allow you a locational/directional reference to close with your quarry. I had read at one time that it might be slaved to a night vision with a telescopic optic to allow long range visual identification.

This seems like a very awesome capability. I can't imagine why we would not have this simple capability on our own aircraft. I would suspect that the FLIR company has probably developed the technology to passive auto scan and display direction for suspected targets in the sky. Usually if you can imagine it, and it is within the realm of technology, then it has probably been done already.

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Sunday Punch posted:

This is fascinating, although I'm kind of surprised this sort of passive sensor technology isn't more widespread, considering the huge advantage of being able to see the other guy without yourself being seen. Kind of like how subs with passive and active sonar don't go around pinging everything because it's a good way to give away your position and eat a torpedo. I would be interested to know how effective the IR sensor is, and what sort of range it can track targets at compared to the aircraft's radar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-30MKI

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Laser-optical locator system
OLS-30 laser-optical locator system to include a day and night FLIR capability and is used in conjunction with the helmet mounted sighting system. The OLS-30 is a combined IRST/LR device using a cooled, broader waveband, sensor. Detection range is up to 90 km, whilst the laser ranger is effective to 3.5 km. Targets are displayed on the same LCD display as the radar.

whoa..

more on the technology and its earliest uses by the US
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRST

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I really thought GD would make the F16XL (Cranked Arrow) F-16.

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priznat posted:

From the pad directly that is.. Without blowing anyone up :(

Here you go. LGM-118 Peacekeeper, I have been told it's first stage is the same as the SRB's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCSoN1tqmgU

edit: not a PK but its MM3 brother, and a loving awesome video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S6EDNrfSsA

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bomb dropping mishaps
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=959_1305530249

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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=68f_1306880662

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Sunday Punch posted:

Nice suits.

You read some places that they use Mercury space suits and in others that they used Gemini space suits. Wikipedia has a different take on it. They say that the suits made by David Clark Company are more closely related to the suits worn in the space shuttle missions.

Here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sr-71#Life_support

especially here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launch_Entry_Suit

and more here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Clark_Company

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atlas silo's
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=41.08...86&z=17&iwloc=A

and

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=41.37...89&z=14&iwloc=A

Peacekeeper Silo
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=42.00...49&z=18&iwloc=A

Minuteman 3 Silo
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=41.30...49&z=18&iwloc=A

Peacekeeper and Minuteman training silos side by side next to training building at FE Warren AFB. You can see the one on the right is "open hole" with the whole circus set on top of it.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=41.14...25&z=19&iwloc=A

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Ygolonac posted:

Yup, Malmstrom. When they had Big Sky Day (base open-house/airshow), they'd run tours through the command-capsure simulator. (They also did the with the Civil Air Patrol.) I got to turn the key on two seperate occasions. :black101:

They also used to drive these through town (Great Falls):



Although I never got to see this:



http://www.truckaccidents360.com/blog/317/military-semi-trailer-with-missile-parts-overturns/

If you look at my google earth links you can see one of these payload vans straddling an open hole at the training facility.

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Duck and Cover


There were many Thuds and Buffs shot down by migs.

My favorite story is about this B52 named "Diamond Lil" on display at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs.


From here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B-52_Stratofortress#Air-to-air_victories

quote:

On 24 December 1972, during the same bombing campaign, the B-52 Diamond Lil was headed to bomb the Thái Nguyên railroad yards when tail gunner A1C Albert E. Moore spotted a fast-approaching MiG-21. Moore opened fire with his quad fifties at 4,000 yards (3,700 m), and kept shooting until the fighter disappeared from his scope. TSG Clarence W. Chute, a tail gunner aboard another Stratofortress, watched the MiG catch fire and fall away. The Diamond Lil is preserved on display at the United States Air Force Academy in Colorado. Moore was the last recorded bomber gunner to shoot down an enemy aircraft with machine guns in aerial combat. These victories make the B-52 the largest aircraft to be credited with air-to-air kills.

The quad 50's were only mounted in B52 tails for a short period. Then they switched to 20mm, then they did away with them all together. I am lucky to have an ammo can marked "FOR B52 AIRCRAFT USE ONLY".

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Video of that living museum of the atlas site in Arizona people talked about earlier in the thread.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5bb_1311641968

daskrolator posted:

Around 4 years ago I was digging up some old documents at work and found a bunch of marketing material for rail-based MX. Brochures, glossy booklets, key chains, was all very funny. Didn't snag any unfortunately.

The "Rail Garrison" was going to be based here in Cheyenne from FE Warren AFB. I was part of some security ergonomic testing for this program.

Our peacekeepers were going to park here and then sometimes, like during heightened tensions, or just random times they travel around the country on trains. This would make them impossible to track.

If you attempted to track them real time, such as following in a car etc by using humint they would be able to catch spies.

would you like to know more?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peacekeeper_Rail_Garrison_Car

I would like to point out that where I live would be, would have been pretty toasty in the event of nukes flying.


Why so many? well there is a nuke field here. Sure, some of the plan is to trying to "dig up" some of the nukes. But it goes beyond that..

their plan was to cast so much soil and dust into the atmosphere that it would destroy the missiles.

Just so that you understand. When a missile takes off, it quickly accelerates to many times the speed of sound. Passing through only air alone the top of the missile will get glowing hot from friction. Imagine a shooting star but going up instead.

Adding only a small amount of material to the air such as dust, the missile would be shredded apart on its way to apogee. No material in the world could handle the friction of that forceful extrusion through the dust filled air at that velocity.

How many nukes for you? Check your state.
http://portland-or.com/survive/nuclearsurvival/list.htm

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Boomerjinks posted:

I posted this a while ago in AI under the aeronautical thread, but I've discovered that your TFR goons are really spectacular (thanks again for the M1 help), and I think you'll get a kick out of this.

I'm a huge SR-71 fanboy. I often make jokes connecting the usual struggle to find meaning in adulthood to the fact that I always wanted to be an SR-71 pilot and lost my direction in life when the program was canceled. In high school I formulated my "ultimate road trip" that consisted of visiting ever SR-71 on display (save for the UK), which would take us through pretty much every interesting state in the country. The idea was shelved for nearly ten years, and then suddenly started to happen. I've taken an average of two road trips each year since 2009, and have currently visited 15 out 29.

7975 - March Air Force Base - Riverside, California - December, 2010




7961 - Cosmosphere - Hutchinson, Kansas - September 2010


6925 - USS Intrepid Museum - New York, New York - September 2010




7972 - Smithsonian Udvar Hazy Museum - Washington, D.C. - September 2010


7968 - Virginia Aviation Museum - Richmond, Virginia - September 2010




6930 - US Space and Rocket Center - Huntsville, Alabama - September 2010


7973 - Blackbird Air Park - Palmdale, California - July 2010


6924 - Blackbird Air Park - Palmdale, California - July 2010




6927 - California Science Center - Los Angeles, California - July 2010


7976 - USAF Museum - Dayton, Ohio - September 2009


I want this picture so loving bad. It's like 4 feet tall!


6935 - USAF Museum Annex - Dayton, Ohio - September 2009


9764 - SAC Museum - Ashland, Nebraska - September 2009




6933 - San Diego Air and Space Museum - San Diego, California - July 2009


These are not my pictures, but I have seen the following aircraft. I plan on revisiting them soon.

7956 - EAA Fly-In - Oshkosh, Wisconsin - August, 1997, saw the fly-by!


6940 - Boeing Museum of Flight - Seattle, Washington - June, 1997


7977 Cockpit - Boeing Museum of Flight - Seattle, Washington - June, 1997


6931 - CIA Headquarters - Langley, Virginia - September, 2010

I managed to spot the tail of this A-12 while we were sneaking around the rear access roads for the complex. I could probably have snapped a picture but we didn't want to wear out our welcome since we had to be in New York later that night...

Hopping rails at the Smithsonian to touch the nacelle of your favorite plane --> exhilarating!

You have a problem

EXCEPT THE FLY-BY OMG OMG OMG :allears:

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Ace Oliveira posted:

hell yeeeaaah :allears:



Where is that video of these german guys buzzing each other on a berm super close to the ground?

While looking for it I found this which is nearly as amazing in its own
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMWbvoab274

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ming-the-mazdaless posted:

Not exactly cold war but I thought some folks may get a kick out of this:

http://ahrlac.com

I want one.

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grover posted:

Yes, that's it, ekronoplan aircraft carrier about 13:00 in, just look at the motherfucker:








Not much of a runway, but then, you don't really need a runway when your airfield is already flying above your aircrafts' stall speed!

It looks like a mix of the badguy plane/ship from the final battle from Avatar and some sort of end boss plane from an early Ace Combat.

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fuf posted:

Can anyone solve this?



:smug:


Suicide Watch posted:

the winningest wing commander ever:











legends aren't born, they're made
His balls had their own ejection seat.

on a separate note, I think I might get one of these EDF "Nano" ready to fly planes.
http://www.bananahobby.com/electric-rc-airplanes-electric-fighter-rc-jets.html

This A10 has me excited
http://www.bananahobby.com/2222.html

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Airpower collection called, "Lower Than A Snakes Belly In a Wagon Rut - And Other Stories Of Low Flying"
http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/325/Lower-than-a-Snakes-Belly-in-a-Wagon-R.aspx

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The coasties colors remind me of

:uhaul:

I would love to see the army get the A-10's when they are retired, but some need to go to the coasties.

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BIG HEADLINE posted:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0007FIIC0

Here's the second 'poo poo himself' story, copied for your enjoyment:

After a quick visit to the dirty shirt for two bowls of chili, Hoser mans up on America for a training hop in the Med. Strange gurglings in his tank and sweat on the brow even before the cat shot.

After a tanker visit, pain and increasing pressure lead Hoser to question his ability to hold on until recovery. He groans to his backseater, Lance "Larue" Lauer, that he needs to land due to a pending sphincter valve failure.

Lance, renowned for his failing ears, just declares an emergency.

The Boss can't get the actual nature of the emergency out of the plane, but he plays it safe, turns the ship, and launches the SAR helo. As Hoser is dumping about 16k of fuel, his sphincter valve slams open for an uncommanded DUMPEX of its own.

A gruesome odor fills the cockpit and poor Larue goes to full oxygen as he calls the ball.

After a 2-wire, Hoser parks the mighty aircraft in record time, bolts down the ladder and disappears. There were tales of a flight suit being thrown over the side. Larue is also squadron safety officer, so he feels compelled to write up the valve failure for dissemination to the CAG and Air Boss.

Late at night the ever-faithful ops yeoman delivers it to communications.

Message duly received by Recon Wing One and CNAL. The whole fleet wound up having a laugh.


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Also, you guys forgot the T-45. That's a single-engine carrier-rated plane.
Don't forget the F3H Demon

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Generation Internet posted:

God, that single engine looks really weird landing on a carrier to me for some reason. Are there any other single-engine carrier planes?

How about 4 engine?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar-poc38C84

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Thomamelas posted:

I looked through the thread and didn't see this.



Il-102. It's hard to see but it has a GSh-30-2 and 6 internal bomb bays. It lost out the CAS role to the SU-25.

Its like a steampunk Su-25

I used to draw planes like this as a child.

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Baloogan posted:

We live in a fossil-fuel-punk world.






The water injected engines on B-52's and KC-135's are a noise even at a distance that will rival anything you have ever heard.

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Was this covered already?

Define Irony:

ok
http://www.newser.com/story/198019/wichita-crash-killed-3-in-flight-simulator.html

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bewbies posted:

I was asked to develop a concept for providing indirect fire protection for a contested airborne operation and I've been staring at a blank slide for 30 minutes.

For some reason this reminds me of the F-35.

The answer is a group of B52's full of GBU-39/B small diameter bombs flying at high altitude.

quote:

The U.S. Air Force is continuing to upgrade its fifty year old B-52s. The latest upgrade will enable each B-52 to carry over 110 of the 130 kg (285 pound) Small Diameter Bombs (SDB, also known as the GBU-39/B). Six years ago the rotary bomb rack inside the B-52 was modified to carry 32 SDBs instead of 15 larger bombs.

Pre-coordinated strikes will allow a "dump strike" over any given GPS kill box where the enemy is sighted.

Precision strike capability will still maintained for any popup target engagement.

In order to have an airborne operation, air superiority would be required. This would also allow for any B52 operation needed.

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This video is making the rounds even though it's a-year-old. I apologize in advance if it is already been posted. I looked before I posted that it may have been a few pages back and I forgot.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IWJeqrvoF6M

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OhYeah posted:

I joined pretty late in the thread, and yes, it has been posted before. Still pretty funny though.

What's more funny is people who keep insisting that USA has lost air superiority to planes that don't exist yet, and more hilariously that Su-27 is the height of development in the current 4/4+ generation.

Air superiority arguments were so awesome when it was a thing. But I feel sometimes it has lost its luster.

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Baloogan posted:

The Rafale is a Super Hornet equivalent that is literally more expensive per unit than the F-35A managed to be. Isn't stealthy, isn't supermaneuverable, can't supercruise with an air to ground loadout. 100% external stores, which removes any pretension of being LO. Its first flight was in the 80s.

So far only India has started the process of buying them.



Rafale's carrier variant doesn't fold its wings.

Funny, they build a carrier for theirs. We turn ours into practice drones?

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