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Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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I'm sure some of you remember the Time-Life 'Great Fighting Jets' documentary series. As far as I can find it was never released on DVD, but I have five of the VHS tapes. The F-86, F-84, F-5, F-104 and F-105 documentaries. I uploaded them to YouTube, http://www.youtube.com/user/Qres80/videos

I posted those in the AI Airplane thread already, but since I only just found out about this thread I thought I'd drop it in here in case some of you don't read that thread.

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Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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CMS posted:

He probably just needs a good cleaning.

Nonsense, he's a Kalashnikov, you could leave him in a whole full of dirt for a couple years and he'd still work fine when you pull him out...

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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This is why I just stick to flight sims...

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Besides the Leo, Germany also had a post-war tank destroyer. It was very similar to (possibly based on?) the Jagdpanzer IV, though significantly reworked, and had the 90mm from the M47 Patton. It was called the Kanonenjagdpanzer.

vvvvv edit: The joke in this case was my phones autocorrect.

Q_res fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Apr 23, 2014

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Actually, comparing contemporary variants the Pz IV was pretty much always inferior to the T-34 and only ever (at best) on equal footing with the Sherman. Hell, until later in the war when it started getting the longer 75s it was inferior in the tank-on-tank role to the Panzer III.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Kenlon posted:

Tank-on-tank was never the primary role for armor in WW2 - they spent a hell of a lot more time blowing the poo poo out of PBI. . .

I know that, but did you happen to read the conversation that lead up to that post? That seemed to be pretty clearly the context of it.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Cyrano4747 posted:

Saying that it was outclassed in 1944

I'm actually saying it was outclassed well before then.

Though to be fair, much like the M4A1, early Pz IVs were built as infantry support tanks, not really intended to fight other tanks head-on.

Q_res fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Apr 24, 2014

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!
Speaking of weird, out-there mil-porn books has anyone ever read the Wingman series? Most of what I remember is the main characters plane of choice being the F-20 Tigershark (and the author wanking over the F-20 constantly) and that the world had broken up into a bunch of little fiefdoms. And you got weird stuff like a flight of C-5 Galaxies setup to volley fire Phoenix missiles.

Also remember a book (or series of books) where something had rendered jet/rocket engines completely unusable. I think it had somehow zapped computers and poo poo too. So it was the modern world, but everyone was flying WW2 poo poo. Can't remember the name of that one though.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Smiling Jack posted:

Everything you ever needed to know about the Wingman series:

That last sentence is just loving magical.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Mazz posted:

The best part about the Tigers is they are actually T-34s under all the makeup. That's a bit of a mind gently caress when you realize it. There's a scene looking down onto them from the tower where you can totally see the T-34 road wheels and how far forward the turrets are.

The funny thing is, in that overhead shot they could almost pass for the Porsche prototype that competed with the Tiger and became the basis of the Ferdinand/Elefant.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Honestly, that submarine story sounds like someone decided Tom Clancy was a nonfiction writer.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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holocaust bloopers posted:

Nothing will top those Wing documentaries. All it was was stock footage and talking head interviews. The poo poo was goddamn riveting. And the exhausting detail the shows went into was impressive.

I hope it's been long enough that posting my YouTube channel again isn't a douche move. (It's not monetized) But if you liked Wings, check these out.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Qres80

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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AceRimmer posted:

Speaking of Clancy, I think it would be an amazing project to take every single one of the WOPR scenarios from War Games and write a summary for a Clancy-style novel based on it.

This honestly sounds like an amazing thread concept.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Ran into this today. Hull was spray-painted M48A5, oddly enough.

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Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:

that is an m48 hull, 5 return rollers.

I just meant, I wasn't expecting to see a Starship turret on an M48 hull. Actually, I was surprised to see a Starship turret at all

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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The Wingman series had C-5s slinging massive amounts of Phoenix missiles in one of the books.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Smiling Jack posted:

Boeing was waiting for the government to say "you know what VTOL is loving stupid gently caress the Marines take that out" but it never happened.

Real answer: no idea

iirc (it's been a long time since I've seen that Nova episode) Boeing had designed the aircraft around the idea that the wing was going to be a single piece of carbon fiber from wingtip to wingtip. But they couldn't pull it off in time for the flyoff, so they had to strip a bunch of poo poo off the aircraft to get it to take off vertically, and I believe taking those bits off made it so the aircraft couldn't break the speed of sound.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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It's worth mentioning that the Cobra can sling Sidewinders, which AFAIK the Apache cannot. Whether you think that matters, is up to you.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Vincent Van Goatse posted:

That's not the scenario he was talking about, though. IANA naval architect but it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that having to tear the EMALS out of the Ford and replace it with steam would mean that additional structural components would get cut into/removed altogether and that could cause potentially serious structural fatigue issues later in the ship's career.

Converting the Ford from EMALS to Steam is a non-starter, you might actually be better off just laying down a new hull. But the idea that they're built like a tension bridge is insane. It's the complete opposite of how we build carriers.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Yeah, 7 torpedoes in the water. Which is only 400 ft deep. With 2 surface contacts relatively close, both of which are equipped to kill you. RIP in pieces submarine.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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StandardVC10 posted:

It was never really meant for the fighter role. It had a bomb bay (for slinging nukes, of course) from the outset.

Yeah, the Thud only had an F designation because of SAC bullshit. Same reason as the F-111. The 105 was meant to fly in supersonic, drop a tac nuke and haul rear end home.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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SimonCat posted:

Does a Global Hawk weigh more than an F-15?

(There are probably a lot of mitigating factors going on here.)

Well, the missing control surfaces and the lack of engines probably helps.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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What they should have done was design the QE with 2 steam cats on the bow and an angled deck with a ski jump. You know, hedge their bets.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Don Gato posted:

Thats a cool article but man is that scrolling style annoying on mobile.

It's loving obnoxious on my PC too.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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I have a bushingless 1911, that is in no way shape or form a 1911.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Ah, you know what, I'm an idiot. I thought you were talking about that cheap, plastic piece of poo poo sitting on the briefcase of cash. I completely missed the image you were actually talking about. That is an interesting looking 1911.

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Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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My favorite bit is where the wiki article lists loss rates to accidents. Germans lost 30% of their Starfighter fleet to accidents, the Canadians 46% and the Spanish Air Force lost none.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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priznat posted:

I don’t know if any Boeing products would be a top choice for the Canadian fighter contract, heck with being a “national security threat” :rolleyes: any US sourced fighter should at least be given the appearance of being at the bottom of the list.

Basically there has never been a better time to select the Rafale is what I’m saying.


Honestly, I think Canada should grab the Gripen.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Platystemon posted:

GSh‐6‐30 on MiG‐27

The great part about this is that if they fire the cannon it’s basically guaranteed to destroy the landing lights on the plane. It also does stuff like cause the plane to lose body panels and rattle the cockpit instrument panel apart.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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The F-2 is basically just the Agile Falcon concept with added ASW capability. My understanding is that it’s considered a failure, primarily because it was hilariously expensive.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Stolen from another forum, but since we're on the subject.

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Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Well, a hypothetical 2 seat F-35 might use the B or C model airframe as a starting point. Use the space taken up by the lift fan (or I think fuel tanks on the C). You'd probably have to design a new canopy for it, but otherwise I'd think it was doable.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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JcDent posted:

Hear hear, I'm not the only one not seeing F-16 in that.

Yeah it literally doesn't look even a little bit like an F-16. I could see Legacy Hornet though.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Lobster God posted:

When an F-16 and an F-18 love each other very much...

I thought that's what the F-CK-1 was. :v:

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Godholio posted:

That is a terrible loving patch, which tells me it was directed by someone's staff.

Yeah that thing screams, "designed by committee".

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Is that a Typhoon or an Oscar?

edit: in the imgur link

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

Our Lightning isn't as ugly as your Lightning II

Your Lightning is basically a MiG-21 with severe birth defects.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Looks like a Mystere.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Huh, apparently "kinetic military force" means very specifically invading another country and putting boots on the ground in a very specific set of circumstances. Thus allowing us to neatly ignore the violation of international law, sovereignty and the murder of fishing boat crews that made the mistake of operating in areas they're explicitly allowed to by international law.

Thank god, I was worried China might be a bad actor. Perhaps I should look into how Tibet perceives their neighbor more.

Oh, right...

Q_res fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Feb 11, 2019

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Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

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Vahakyla posted:

Out of these, the F-14 doesn’t belong to the group. F-14 belongs with Mirage F1 into the class of planes that reportedly are everything else but not easy to fly. Mirage F1 is nothing like the Mirage 2000.

I don’t remember why I remembered him being french, probably the forum association. The pics owned, but now forever gone I guess.

Dude did dumb bomb runs and rocket runs, too. He was a lucky rear end in a top hat.

I thought the F-14B/B+/D weren't too bad to fly, but the A was a handful because of the dogshit engines that risk compressor stall if you touch the throttle without sweet talking it first.

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