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Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

Mahlertov Cocktail posted:

It's been a while since I listened to classical music--I hang out in my dorm's floor lounge a lot and it's not exactly the best music for DJ Mahlertov to pick, haha--but I'm working on a paper super-late tonight and since the place is abandoned decided to blast some Tchaik.


Tchaikovsky's Fourth was the first piece of classical music I acquired from Limewire. 7 years later and I'm majoring in composition.

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Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

regulargonzalez posted:

Can anyone recommend pieces along the lines of the Andante movement of Mozart's Concerto #23? Wistful, plaintive, sad?

Try...


Kalinnikov Symphony no. 1 - II - Andante commodamente (sorry for bad audio quality)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxLV7XyrJ2I&feature=related


Roussel's Symphony no. 3 - II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFPG9WAKDq4&feature=related

Pretty much just trawl second movements from symphonies.

Bonus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ja-Vle7Fko

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

Cross posting from a thread in PYF.

Mahler posted:

I'm gonna post some stuff that has been impressing me for a while.

First off is a piece by Leos Janacek. My interest to date has mostly been in his straight-up orchestral works like Sinfonietta and Taras Bulba. More recently I've been checking out orchestral excerpts from his operas. The Overture to "The Makropulos Affair" has my favorite type of stylistic blend, a kind of Urban Ruckus mixed with intense lyricism.

Here's the best version I could find on you tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbA1n_d6mkM&feature=channel_video_title

Arthur Honegger is mostly remembered for his spiky sound poems like Pacific 231 (which actually has little to nothing to do with trains, according to the composer) and Rugby, but I find his First Symphony more to my liking. Again, I'm running with the theme of "Urban-ness" meets lyrical, which is my impression of what's going on in this piece.

Here's the first movement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xLbg1lei6c

And here's Pacific 231 for good measure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COhyLoA1T0w&feature=related

Dispensing with the lyrical, lets move on to 1920's Russia, where all sorts of awesome business was going on before Stalin hosed everything up in the following decades. Alexander Mossolov's Zavod (Foundry, from his lost ballet "Stal")is a fascinating piece that keeps piling on parts to an already dissonant ostinato. Combine this with an aggressive melody.

Pretty overpowering stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq1-_UPwYSM

I see that some of you have posted Prokofiev's piano concertos. But wait, there's more! The Second and Third Symphonies are busy essays in badassery.

Second Symphony (!) First movement (!!!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ6_SOag3pE

That's it for now, I might post more later.

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

Check out Schnittke's Third Symphony if you can. I find the second movement to be one of his better polystylistic statements. I once got a copy of the score shipped to me from California, it's frickin' huge! The opening movement has a 64 voice cannon for the string choir that is just absolutely nuts. Even the huge oversized score (about 50CM) was not tall enough to contain all the staves. Some parts of the symphony require you to take out loose leafs that extend the score to 3-4 feet in height. Pretty loving impractical.

Here's a youtube of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RWe35YrM5E&feature=player_detailpage#t=712s

Mahler fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Oct 7, 2011

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

For non-minimalist modern, I'd suggest you check out the 7 solos for Orchestra by Dusapin. Lots of interesting stuff going on in these pieces!

Here's one of them: "clam" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvhs_TVPQRY

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

edit: double post! sorry!

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

Kjermzs posted:

Goons, I need help finding a good Classical internet radio station that is free of advertisements. Doesn't matter if its free or paid, although free is preferred I'll pay to get rid of ads.

Try http://music.cbc.ca/

Choose the classical tab on the right side. 10 varied streams. Unfortunately, they tend to stick to a certain rotation for a while, but it's easy to find something interesting. There are occasionally short little plugs for various features of the cbc music site, but they don't last more than 15-20 seconds.

Mahler fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Nov 13, 2012

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008


Good post, dude! Tons of interesting music I've never heard in there.

Lately I've been into Rautavaara's symphonies. He mixes old fashion lyricism, dense textures and dissonances to usually beautiful effect.

Here's the first movement from his 7th symphony "Angel of Light"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIqi8V04bI8

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

The Arnold Schoenberg orchestration of the Brahms piano quartet is excellent.

Here's the final movement being conducted by Paavo Jarvi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmeTwJq38Po

Mahler fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Dec 1, 2013

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

Warchicken posted:

gently caress yeah Mahler :getin:
I think my favorite of his works is probably Das Lied von der Erde. If you're able to find the recording by the Dresden Staatskapelle under Sinopoli, definitely grab it: great singing, incredibly rich orchestral sound. Also thank you. :cool:

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

Warchicken posted:

Haha wow. I'm kind of surprised to hear anyone name that as their favorite, though . What do you like so much about it over his other works? Also just seeing "Dresden" and "Mahler" in the same place makes me a sad fanboy. Thanks for bombing the loving Dresden archives, us Air Force , nope the world won't miss out on anything as a result of that no way

I really, really like a lot of his work (an obvious statement). Symphony 5 is really strong. First movement of 7 is sooooo good. Symphony no. 9 is so dense and rewarding... It's not that DLvdE stands head and shoulders above the rest, but for me, at this one point in time, it's the most emotionally charged and satisfying to listen to (especially the specific recording I mentioned). I'd find it really hard to try and objectively 'rank' the symphonies from best to worst. At the moment, however, DLvdE is my go-to Mahler fix. This is my non-answer to your question.

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

DisMafugga posted:

There are some very good insights here, agreed. Very early on in the thread Rimsky Korsakov's : Scheherazade was mentioned, and quickly became my favorite classical piece to listen to shortly after. My favorite version is the following by Gergiev ˇ Vienna Philharmonic ˇ Salzburg Festival 2005.

That being said, could anyone point me in the direction of anything similar?

Well, within Rimsky-Korsakov's own output, you have other really accomplished orchestral pieces like Capriccio Espagnol and Russian Easter Festival Overture which were both written within a year of Scheherezade. Maybe check out some of his ballet suites as well; "The Golden Cockerel" and "The Tale of Tsar Sultan" come to mind. Looking up his wiki, I realize that I have not listened to so much of his stuff!

If you're into the whole early exploration of the exoticism of Persia/"The East", I'd recommend Carl Nielsen's Aladdin Suite (youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJOEdlTYJQ8 ).

Another recent discovery of mine is the massive and incredible ballet "Gayaneh" by Khachaturian. Probably the most famous pieces from it are the Sabre Dance (ever since folded into the core Circus Repertoire) and the Adagio which was put to great use in 2001: A Space Odyssey. But really, the whole ballet contains material which outshines both of those excerpts. Here's a balls out rendition by a Russian orchestra (w/o the Adagio, unfortunately): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JlGS1m1PL4

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

If you like John Adams' more rambunctious orchestral pieces, you owe it to yourself to check out this half-hour of music by Michael Gordon: "Dystopia" (the video portion is marginally interesting). https://vimeo.com/channels/160200/107016422 Doesn't quite stick the landing...

It's no "City Noir" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6137doeimU ), but still worth your time if you're into this sort of stuff.

And in the same "orchestral cityscapes" vein, here is Aaron Copland's Music for a Great City: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfJx-gScGPs

Mahler fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Feb 23, 2015

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

Quantumfate posted:

What I'm looking for is music similar to: Schoenberg, Berg, Webern, Messiaen, Dutilleux. Any recommendations in general would be appreciated!

If you like Schoenberg, you might like Roger Sessions, who moved from spiky Stravinsky influenced neo-classical style (Black Masker's Suite) to intense chromaticism cum atonality (Violin Concerto and 2nd Symphony) to full blown idiomatic use of 12-tone music. I'm particularly fond of the 3rd Symphony, I just wish there was more than the one lackluster recording of it! Yeah, I know he's an acquired taste. gently caress all y'all.

Roger Sessions Violin Concerto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZwndZGzTPM
Roger Sessions Symphony no. 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKZI9unk9yc

Dutilleux is my jams as well. Some of his pieces are sooooooo tight. Métaboles is easily in my top [number] favorite pieces. 2nd Symphony "The Double" is ridiculously good as well, and features a chamber orchestra nestled within the full orchestra. It's hard to really compare modern composers and recommend stuff because a lot of composers' outputs are so singular. I guess Boulez would be a good bet if you like Dutilleux and Messiaen.

That said, I really recommend the music of Witold Lutosławski who along with Penderecki is one of Poland's musical giants of the 20th century. He's notable for his controlled use of aleatory (or "random") techniques, giving players some measure freedom as to their interpretation, usually tempo. Among the double fistful of masterpieces he's written are the Cello Concerto (video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twumi_6ET5M ) and the 3rd Symphony, which is massive and insane. I'm a fan of tons of his stuff, including early gems like the Symphonic Variations and the First Symphony (one of the central targets of a major Stalinist crackdown on the arts!), full blast mind-blowing aleatory techniques in middle period pieces like Livre pour Orchestre and the aforementioned Cello Concerto, and the assured late-period works like the Piano Concerto and Fourth Symphony.

And for the Schnittke lovers out there, you have to check out the new recording of his batshit insane 3rd Symphony (a lot of those in this post). I once ordered a score of this piece and for some points you can't really read along with it because it's already almost 2 feet tall, and you need to take out these huge loose papers cuz all the individual string instruments are playing their own line in a canon. Yeah... there's a giant fuckoff canon at the start. The second movement is like taking a bad trip through music history, the third movement scherzo features electric bass. The fourth movement chills out a bit, kind of a take on the last movements of Mahler 3 or 9. Worth checking out! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HLlsODXbWk

Mahler fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Jun 16, 2015

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

James The 1st posted:

I wouldn't worry about, there's not really much you can talk about why you like a piece of music. Music is something that has to be heard.

Yeah, for sure. There's no one specific way to "get" a piece. Satisfaction can arise from any number of approaches to listening. Actually, sometimes I wish I could go back to being completely overwhelmed by Strauss tone poems and Mahler symphonies. The chills are few and far between now :unsmith:

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

Boulez is good orchestration porn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIlfuf2wUok

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

Hey guys, Mahler 10 is good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKLt_Y7Laok

god bless

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

Chalk me up as another person who finds Brahms a little boring. Everything is just so golden-warm and sleepy. One thing I've liked was the Schönberg orchestration of the piano quartet (or quintet? I forget).

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

Money Bags posted:

Going to see Mahler 2 this weekend

Going to see Walton 1 TONIGHT

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

Fave movement is tough, but I really like the first movements of the 7th and 9th symphonies. First and last parts of Das Lied Von der Erde. Seeing Resurrection tomorrow with the Ottawa Symphony Orchestra and preparing with this excellent version conducted by Abbado: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MPuoOj5TIw

Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

I made a musical animation thing of a John Adams piece (Slonimsky's Earbox for Orchestra). It's midi audio quality and my mouse shows up a few times (lol) but gives you an idea of how he makes his big groovy ostinato. Colour coded by pitch.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyRY0WZ_THo

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Mahler
Oct 30, 2008

Matsuri posted:

Kind of looking for some new music to listen to. Does anyone have any recommendations similar to Rachmaninoff? His Pianoconcerto No. 2 is quite possibly my favorite work of music ever and I've been listening to it for years and still get choked up (and concertos 3 and 4 are great, too) and I really like Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini, but I really haven't explored too much of his work beyond those or anyone in the same vein of his style.

If you like the lush late-romantic sound you might enjoy the tone poems of Richard Strauss. Can't get more gushy than something like Don Juan or the suite from Der Rosenkavalier.

As for Rachmaninoff, if you haven't heard them yet, make sure to check out the Symphonic Dances and Isle of the Dead. Really solid orchestral works.

Mahler fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Jun 8, 2018

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