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Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005


GOP posted:

Since we are talking classical music, has anyone heard anything that is remotely similar to, or as simple and brilliant as the work of Eric Satie?

Satie was a big influence on John Cage, and much of John Cage's keyboard music is very simple and graceful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbjN...feature=related "In a Landscape"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExUosomc8Uc "Dream"

He also composed a piece using the same rhythmic durations as Satie's "Socrate" named "Cheap Imitation" when Merce Cunningham was unable to get the rights to perform a dance choreographed to Satie's piece, and also organized the first performance of "Vexations."

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Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005


Speaking of long, quiet music and Cage, there's his associate Morton Feldman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIWqdEL4Npk "For John Cage"

Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005


In what way were those foundations torn down? A later composer cannot negate an earlier composer's work by composing more music. And the 2nd Viennese School which inaugurated the projects of twelve-tone and serial music saw themselves as being in a lineage that stretched back to Haydn and came down to them through Mahler. AND it's not like the great music from the 20th century even gets played enough at concerts compared to music from the 19th.

Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005


aBagorn posted:

A classical thread isn't complete without more works from my favorite Russian man, one Igor Stravinsky

Petrushka (Tableaus 1 and 4)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdKtlK3SKZg (1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jbdfR3xYW8 (4.1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydznfg6yrt0 (4.2)

Le Sacre du Printemps (The Rite of Spring)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewyqXI21vp0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1tn7WJ9lRc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn_PGrl5vYg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtAzaQ_fd-A


And to confirm I'm not just a Stravinsky guy, here's some Bartok

Music for Strings, Percussion, and Celesta (Moosepac, as it was known among Rowan Music Majors)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6R4uw-Bapc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK57jiF_qXY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd-2Yfhy-LE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bexzEce6UZU

Stravinsky's religious music is really cool too:

Symphony of Psalms:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhk96KX6I6I
Requiem Canticles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_uNd0Ef53g

Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005


Abel Wingnut posted:

Is there an online compendium detailing each recorded version of classical works? I'm trying to figure out the best version of Romeo and Juliet and I can't find any sort of consensus, and thought there might be some site that does this for all of classical music.

On allmusic.com you can look up a composer and then see a listing of his works (or look up the work directly, although the search doesn't work that well for classical works), and from there get a list of recordings of that work. I don't think the lists are always complete, though.

Books like the Penguin and NPR guides to classical music also specialize in giving advice as to which recordings of pieces to get.

It should be pretty easy to find professional reviews of recordings, and sometimes amazon reviewers are even knowledgeable and informative in their reviews.

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Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005


For Stravinsky ballets a nice one is Petrushka from a few years before Rite of Spring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkg_lJeHmjs

Agon is a neat late ballet after he had adopted twelve-tone writing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz0mqFnZhLk

He has some sick symphonies, the Symphony in C

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUfjcqg07M8

and the Symphony in Three Movements

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIrlgRt8Dg8

Lots of good religious choral music like the Symphony of Psalms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN__SpkeFEU

or the Requiem Canticles, another twelve-tone piece from later in his life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=668QWMK-maQ

Some Stravinsky links earlier in the thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...3#post386881294

Speaking of religious choral music Szymanowski's Stabat Mater totally owns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ-wUTycX8Y

Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005


I wouldn't really buy any of them because I think it's frustrating to listen to those collections that just compile a bunch of individual movements from larger works, which is what it seems these collections are. I'd much rather buy a recording that has the entire work on it.

However, if you're just getting into classical it might be useful to hear collections like that to get a sense of pieces you might want to check out more. Collections like this are a dime a dozen though, I don't know that you'd need this specific set.

Also, if you want to hear a lot of classical movements and just kind of see what you might like, there are a lot of other options, like Spotify, Pandora, Youtubes, the radio, your local library, etc.

Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005


dromer posted:

Also, I've been looking into non-minimalist modern composers. Does anyone have recommendations?

I've been listening to Claude Vivier lately:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzvFJX7mR-4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK4VL6f9eAg

French Canadian spectral composer, was murdered about 30 years ago

Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005


firebad57 posted:

Oh my god this thread exists. I'm not sure why I never thought of looking for it before, but as a professional classical musician (who plays exclusively newly composed music), I 'm loving THRILLED to have found this thread. AND the first thing I found people discussing was GODDAMNED ALVIN LUCIER WHO WAS MY PROFESSOR IN COLLEGE. Alvin is the best, and I'm super happy to see people enjoying his music.

I've been reading his recent book collecting his lecture notes, Music 109 and listening along to the pieces he talks about in it. Pretty sweet and a great way to learn more about what specific pieces that might be kinda hard to get into are doing.

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Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005


What do you guys like for contemporary classical music? I love the chunky gritty tendencies in 20th century classical but I'm pretty ignorant about anything that's actually happening today. What do ya all like? Especially, do ya got any recordings you think are particularly awesome?

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