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Guildenstern Mother posted:What do people think of hackerrank? I like using the practice questions as well... practice for assessments, but is it worth the time to get their skill certifications? I can't imagine it would hurt, but would it help on a resume? No. HackerRank, Leetcode, et al. are just for getting practice with whatever algorithm roulette technical questions you might get during an interview. If a company cares about one of their "certifications", that's a red flag to me.
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Relevant for the last few days chat in here https://onezero.medium.com/recent-grads-are-being-lured-into-indentured-servitude-by-a-coding-bootcamp-8a3b2b8e87e8
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Trevor Hale posted:Relevant for the last few days chat in here FDM Group is another one of these.
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Lockback posted:Negotiate both of them. What would it take for the 2nd offer to be better than the first? This question really illuminated the gulf between the two opportunities. Having had my chat with the Some of my imposter syndrome is melting away - I've been out of the industry for a while and didn't have a lot of experience to begin with, and my resume is weak. But I got two offers on two interviews, each with substantial tech screening. My new position is going to go a long, long way in improving my ability to get to the interview stage whenever it's time to think about that again. Thank you thread!
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Feb 10, 2021 14:40
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Awesome news, my favorite posts are from people that are struggling to choose between two good offers.
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Feb 10, 2021 16:30
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Guildenstern Mother posted:What do people think of hackerrank? I like using the practice questions as well... practice for assessments, but is it worth the time to get their skill certifications? I can't imagine it would hurt, but would it help on a resume? The certs are probably mostly worthless in and of themselves, but if it helps you to have a goal to work towards (it helps me a lot), nothing wrong with getting them.
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Hacker rank etc are pretty good for sharpening rusty skills, and if you spend a weekend grinding away, there's a 60% chance at least one of the challenges matches up very closely with at least one whiteboard question your interviewer asks you. Even if not, you'll be practiced in solving menial challenges quickly etc. It's almost never a bad idea I think the certs are just a desperate attempt to monetize the site somehow, don't worry about that Hadlock fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Feb 11, 2021 |
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Yeah I was mostly happy because they were timed assessments and I struggle with those and was wondering if sticking them on my resume would also be helpful. Since they're not, practice it is!
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Feb 11, 2021 11:20
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If you're looking for things to include so that your resume doesn't have an awkwardly large amount of empty space at the bottom then filling some space with your hackerrank score is probably better than leaving it off. It'd definitely be one of the first things I'd drop once you're past that stage though.
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Agreed, that stuff is fluff but it's pretty good fluff. Stuff like that, coursera courses, etc are pretty good to fill up space or juice some skills that aren't anywhere else, but should go to the chopping block as soon as something better goes along. Make sure you can talk to them though. Having a hackerrank but then sounding like an idiot when someone asks you technical questions about that topic is a great way to tank an interview.
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Because it takes me a long time to understand what webpages are and aren't, can someone provide a one sentence compare / contrast between hackerrank and, say, leetcode?
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Newf posted:Because it takes me a long time to understand what webpages are and aren't, can someone provide a one sentence compare / contrast between hackerrank and, say, leetcode? "Basically the same thing." For a bit more in depth I tend to find leetcode a bit better at "interview prep" type questions, Hackerrank a bit better at "learning a concept" type coding questions. There's also differences in the testing suites and such, but basically the same thing.
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Plorkyeran posted:If you're looking for things to include so that your resume doesn't have an awkwardly large amount of empty space at the bottom then filling some space with your hackerrank score is probably better than leaving it off. It'd definitely be one of the first things I'd drop once you're past that stage though. Well the rest of my resume is bootcamp poo poo and waiting tables, so its not like its not already 90% bullshit space filling.
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Vilgefartz posted:Thanks for the advice on my website earlier, i implemented most of the suggested changes and imo it is much improved. Chrome just threw an error from your webpage that I've never seen before, lol 
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Happy Thread posted:Chrome just threw an error from your webpage that I've never seen before, lol Did you use something like "password123"? Chrome (and most password managers that have haveibeenpwned-type functionality) will fire an alert if you reuse a password that's been breached somewhere else, because credential reuse attacks are so common.
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Good to know, that's interesting. I think I used aaaaaaaaaa.
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Space Gopher posted:Did you use something like "password123"? Hey, according to the videos they're always making me watch at work, this is phishing. 
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In retrospect, machine learning may have been a bit lofty for someone who doesn't play around with it at all in my freetime. I do, however, use C# all the time, so I think I'm going to lean into that for now, apply to companies looking for C# programmers, and then use the next couple of years in my freetime to build a better machine learning or computer vision portfolio. Something I should have been doing the past few years, tbh.  Anyway, I used the last week to make a Terraria mod so I have more things to slap onto my resume. Here's a new version: https://www.overleaf.com/read/zwfcwppthncr I added some stuff for the jobs. I tried my best. I don't have any kind of records from those times, just what I remember.
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Shadow0 posted:and then use the next couple of years in my freetime to build a better machine learning or computer vision portfolio. Something I should have been doing the past few years, tbh. This most likely wont happen btw. So aim high from the start otherwise you will stay where you land on this first shot.
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Shadow0 posted:In retrospect, machine learning may have been a bit lofty for someone who doesn't play around with it at all in my freetime. I do, however, use C# all the time, so I think I'm going to lean into that for now, apply to companies looking for C# programmers, and then use the next couple of years in my freetime to build a better machine learning or computer vision portfolio. Something I should have been doing the past few years, tbh. You should have an "other experience" section to list your educational experience. Right now it looks like you haven't worked at all in 6 years and that's bad. You don't need to put details if you don't want to use a lot of space but listing out that you've been doing something is important.
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Hey quick question, im thinking of getting my first tattoo, but I dont' want to screw myself over if I ever want to get a job with a "real" company in the software world. Are employers in these industries pretty lax about them?
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raddddd thanks Grump
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A lot of employers are pretty lax, but not all of them. I don't think it matters enough to not get a tattoo, but maybe don't start with something you can't cover up with ordinary clothing.
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It would be on my forearm, so a long sleeve would cover it, if that makes any difference
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Lockback posted:You should have an "other experience" section to list your educational experience. Right now it looks like you haven't worked at all in 6 years and that's bad. You don't need to put details if you don't want to use a lot of space but listing out that you've been doing something is important. Half of that time is because of grad school. I threw in an Other Work Section. However, now the resume is more than one page. Should I remove some of my bullet points for the jobs or is the length less of an issue? https://www.overleaf.com/read/zwfcwppthncr Gildiss posted:This most likely wont happen btw. So aim high from the start otherwise you will stay where you land on this first shot. It's fine. There's nothing wrong with being a C# programmer, is there? My focus was more on computer vision and robotics anyway, but everyone is looking for PhDs. But I might go for a PhD later anyway. All my friends doing it seem pretty miserable, so it sounds like fun. Edit: Also how is a couple years of C# development worse for my resume than 3 years of teaching English? Shadow0 fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Feb 16, 2021 |
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I'm coming up on 4 years at my first programming job, and I'm really ready to leave. I think based on time spent on the job, I should be applying for intermediate-level jobs but my current place doesn't really have job titles that reflect things like that. I feel like I'm at the border between newbie/intermediate, so any tips for how to format a resume with that in mind? I figure I should just list all the technologies I touched while working on projects here, but beyond that I'm stumped. I don't really have a github portfolio or anything like that anymore because I wasn't super interested in working off the job, so to speak.
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Empress Brosephine posted:It would be on my forearm, so a long sleeve would cover it, if that makes any difference If it's not on your face, you're fine. If it is, that's still probably fine. I'd say there is a small number of places that might have issues if its super visible, but if it's easy to reasonably cover up (even if its not 100% invisible) I would be really surprised if even the most conservative places had issue. Shadow0 posted:Half of that time is because of grad school. Remove: Cleaned up complex patient record locking code and remove depreciated methods andmembers. (this is just being a programmer, it's not interesting) Designed and implemented many enemy NPCs’ AI. (just put (and AI in the first bullet for this job) For "Other work experience" combine in one line: Feb 2018-Feb 2020: English Teacher at Korean Company Should all fit in 1 page. Those extra work experiences do really help. long-rear end nips Diane posted:I'm coming up on 4 years at my first programming job, and I'm really ready to leave. I think based on time spent on the job, I should be applying for intermediate-level jobs but my current place doesn't really have job titles that reflect things like that. I feel like I'm at the border between newbie/intermediate, so any tips for how to format a resume with that in mind? I figure I should just list all the technologies I touched while working on projects here, but beyond that I'm stumped. I don't really have a github portfolio or anything like that anymore because I wasn't super interested in working off the job, so to speak. A portfolio would help but I'd agree you're probably past needing it. I'd say you're solidly intermediate with that experience. Focus on technology and achievements (did you lead a feature that is used by xxx thousand users? stuff like that). Try to tell a good story of taking on more responsibility if you don't have title promotions to go off of. If you have to fudge something, you're probably ok to do that (if you spent the last year as the only backend guy, break that role out as a quasi promotion)
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Lockback posted:Remove: Ok, I removed those, and a couple more lines from the Android jobs, and now it's one page. I'll go ahead and start using this then to apply to some places. Thanks a lot everyone for the help! I really appreciate it.
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Empress Brosephine posted:Hey quick question, im thinking of getting my first tattoo, but I dont' want to screw myself over if I ever want to get a job with a "real" company in the software world. Are employers in these industries pretty lax about them? While it definitely varies from company to company, it's been my experience that everything my Fake (bartending, retail) jobs cared about, my real job(and my friends real jobs) doesn't. Fake Job: "no drugs. No tattoos. No hair dye. No ear gauges. No drinking. No fighting. Only girls can wear make up. If you challenge us on what a girl is, you're fired" Real job: "hey, dude you probably should wear a collared shirt. No big if you don't, but you should. Anyway, it's 2pm, down for shots in the break room???" Pretty sure as long as I'm meeting my deadlines I can do whatever I want and look however I want and not only would nobody care, most people wouldn't even register something like tattoos as out of the ordinary.
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Empress Brosephine posted:Hey quick question, im thinking of getting my first tattoo, but I dont' want to screw myself over if I ever want to get a job with a "real" company in the software world. Are employers in these industries pretty lax about them? my manager has full sleeve tattoos on both arms and legs that can't be covered up and we work at a japanese company. i've known software architects at banks etc. that have ridiculously lovely band tattoos. there are some software dev shops where a bunch of old people wear suits and ties - and the tattoos would be frowned upon. you probably don't want to work at those places anyway, and they're mercifully rare nowadays.
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Thank you all for the help with the tattoo stuff. I have one more question  I am about 30 credits away from graduating in accounting with my existing school, but I was hoping to transfer to a new school and focus instead on computer science. The admissions advisor I talked to is attempting to talk me into a Interdisciplinary Studies degree that way I can utilize most of my existing business credits still, but I feel like that degree is the equivalent of a Liberal Arts one...would going to a IS degree be a mistake for CS? I know a degree is not really "worth it" when it comes to CS, and I already work in the industry albeit not in a huge programming way (mostly wordpress etc), so this would just be me getting a degree to finish the fight I guess you would say and maybe be able to leverage it into a potential real programming job. Thanks for the help!
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A degree in computer science vs. a degree in something else doesn't matter that much for a lot of jobs, but having a degree vs. not having one matters more. I'd say go for whatever helps you to finish as quickly as possible.
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That's what I was hoping , because the IS would be the difference between finishing in a year and a half and essentially having to do everything over again lol
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I work at a big traditional Fortune 50 that apparently ~8 years ago expected everyone to wear suits to the office, now they just expect no shorts and to wear a shirt. Can't remember seeing somebody with sleeve tattoos but they'd probably be fine. Gauged ears and colored hair are hardly a rare sight. Our stock price has nearly tripled in the last few years, probably correlated with how cool we're allowed to be in the office now. 
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Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:my manager has full sleeve tattoos on both arms and legs that can't be covered up and we work at a japanese company. i've known software architects at banks etc. that have ridiculously lovely band tattoos. Worked at a place (Fortune 100) that where even 5 years ago tattoos might have hurt you. They still might if you want to get into the C-level, but for middle management or senior tech positions no one gives a poo poo about appearances anymore.
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Last company had a dress code of, "No visible genitals" (Or maybe it was phrased as genitals shall always be covered, I can't remember.) But that was the entirety of it.
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Hughlander posted:Last company had a dress code of, "No visible genitals" (Or maybe it was phrased as genitals shall always be covered, I can't remember.) But that was the entirety of it. Pretty sure you'd still have a hard time if you came dressed like Borat, though.
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Empress Brosephine posted:That's what I was hoping CS is worth more than IS when starting out but a couple years of experience is worth more that either, and gives you money instead of costing you money. With an IS degree, it means your own github and demonstration of coding skills is that much more important. The accounting stuff is nice domain knowledge though. Don't skim over that when looking at jobs. Financial companies really like when people who understand that poo poo come along.
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Yeah I think ultimately I just need to learn about algorithms in order to get knowledge in that. Thanks for the help. I asked Reddit also and they had like thirty different answers lol
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