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chitoryu12
Apr 23, 2014



It's absolutely a mod made by a guy who hates his audience.

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El Jeffe
Dec 24, 2009



The mod author posted:

Feedback:
Though I've steadily warped into a bitter drunk in the past half-decade, I still value constructive criticism. However, I have absolutely zero patience for pedantic diatribes or whining in general. Okay, polite whining is acceptable, but anything that's mean-spirited in tone will earn a block/ban as quickly as my beer-stained fingers can click the mouse. Is "Mean-spirited" subjective? Certainly! On the other hand, did I invest hundreds of hours of my free time to digest invective from misanthropes? Absolutely not. If something is wrong, please tell me. Just don't be a dick about it.

UED Special Ops
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer


Welp, that sure is some major red flags there...

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010





Just wanna say that I fixed my problem. Again, I'm just dumb and it was obvious. I started reinstalling all my mods (I don't have that many) until I found the one that broke things. It was the Chems, Alcohol and Meds mod and when I went to its Nexus page, i found it had an update and the updated file fixed my issues.

So thanks everyone for the advice and I'll just try to be more aware of these things from now on.

ThaumPenguin
Oct 9, 2013



Might be worth mentioning: you don't need to cap your framerate at 60 if you're using New Vegas Tick Fix, as it now includes a high FPS Havok fix in addition to fixing stuttering and optimizing parts of the game's code.

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


These armour mods look like they'll be great when they're done.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010





You know, New Vegas lacking a Legion-aligned Companion is perhaps a weakness but there just isn't even really an evil companion at all. It really shatters your roleplay and immersion to take Arcade or Cass around for morally dubious quests or to just shoot sand rob some people. The Big Three of the Companions are clearly Cass, Boone and Veronica and they overshadow everyone else. Of those three, only Veronica might be a bit more amenable to some dirty work, I think.

Some people take Raul along for Legion runs as he's tolerant of them but that's really not the same thing as actual support. And he's still far from an actually bad person, he's jut so old that he's totally over this poo poo.

Only mods I can find to rectify this are getting Melissa Lewis as a companion and also Cyan the generic Raider girl.

I gotta pretend to be nice anyway as I wanna see the various companions' quests. In my first and only run, I only did Cass' quest. So I gotta take Arcade and Boone around with me a bit and try not to blow the heads off NCR and other random goons.

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


Boone may be NCR but he's not a "good" person, and both he and Cass's quests have options to make them rather vengeful heartless bastards. Of course this doesn't stop them from leaving you if you have bad karma with Cass or if you shoot NCR troops with Boone, but hey, there's mods for that or you can kill them yourself.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.

Don't try and do a bunch of Legion quests with Boone though, good or bad he loving hates those assholes.

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??



in the van buren design doc the Burned Man was intended to be a possible evil companion, a vicious rear end in a top hat who would kill your rep wherever you took him. His origin was a little more 'realistic' as well, since you would come across him crucified. Obviously the concept changed a lot in the interval. Also Ulysses was originally intended to be a Legion viewpoint character (as a frumentarius accustomed to interacting with outsiders) iirc

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010





Arcsquad12 posted:

Boone may be NCR but he's not a "good" person, and both he and Cass's quests have options to make them rather vengeful heartless bastards. Of course this doesn't stop them from leaving you if you have bad karma with Cass or if you shoot NCR troops with Boone, but hey, there's mods for that or you can kill them yourself.

Oh Cass is getting melted by Jean-Baptiste since the Van Graffs are my new buddies. (also because I wanna do something different and I used her almost exclusively as my companion in my last run)

Skwirl posted:

Don't try and do a bunch of Legion quests with Boone though, good or bad he loving hates those assholes.

This is a House run so I don't plan to really do anything for the Legion.

I think I mentioned already that getting Vilified by the Legion early on gets you great rewards and isn't really a problem since they don't hold any ground you will have to normally travel around or through.

I intend to piss off the NCR but I gotta wait a long while for that, until after I've milked them of XP, content and Caps and can travel through their territory without fear.

Fuligin posted:

in the van buren design doc the Burned Man was intended to be a possible evil companion, a vicious rear end in a top hat who would kill your rep wherever you took him. His origin was a little more 'realistic' as well, since you would come across him crucified. Obviously the concept changed a lot in the interval. Also Ulysses was originally intended to be a Legion viewpoint character (as a frumentarius accustomed to interacting with outsiders) iirc

Indeed he was. He should have been a companion regardless if you spared him in LR. I'll probably be using the mod that lets you recruit him.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.

Isn't Raul Legion affiliated?

UED Special Ops
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Skwirl posted:

Isn't Raul Legion affiliated?

He is more neutral then anything regarding the Legion.

The Courier: "How do you feel about Caesar's Legion?"
Raul Tejada: "I don't really have a problem with them. People around here tend to see them as invading marauders planning to burn and pillage the countryside. But I've been to Arizona, boss. Before the Legion, it was a nasty place, so thick with raiders you couldn't trade with a town two miles up the road. Caesar's laws aren't nice, and their actions aren't always pretty. But then, neither am I, but you keep me around."

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Surprised we haven't got a OG VB tabletop Burned Man companion yet, considering some of awkward edgier mods/overhauls that'd be right down the alley for some modders of the game.

SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009


The Burned Man, who I think was the Hanged Man originally, was one of the first companions you could recruit (cutting him down from the gallows), who was a nigh unkillable combat monster, but he very much prevented you from talking things out. great if your intention was to kill people but he was a shoot first ask questions never kind of guy.

He wouldnt follow you into new canaan though. Kind of like Joshua Graham if he never really recovered and found god again

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


I'm happy they went the way they did with Graham because he's one of the best characters in the entire game.

Not as good as No-Bark, mind you, but who is?

Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013


Having a pariah companion is an interesting idea that I feel like most people would have hated, esp. in a modern 3D Fallout game, and it definitely doesn't work in a DLC. Reworking his story to be actually an examination of faith, self-justification, guilt and community was a stroke of genius and one the best parts (together with the Survivalist's logs, mad credit to Gonzales for the writing) of an uneven DLC with a lot of problems and a troubling colonial overtone.

SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009


One of the best things I think they did in FONV was to take a lot of the Van Burean content, and keep what they could work with, and reworked it into fitting the rest of the content and game. So we get a lot of stuff that's familiar if you know about it, and if you're familiar with FO1/2 a lot of the stuff carries forward, but it's been wonderfully fit so that you don't know what's coming even if you've read the VB docs cover to cover over and over again.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010





I wish Mr. Sawyer would pop up and give his views on this but that seems unlikely. I'd like to her perspectives from anyone, though.

Why do you think Caesar''s Legion is so hated? Okay they'r evil but that doesn't really mean anything. I've seen lots of Enclave fans. The Enclave have much less depth of writing and ideology and also are actually more evil on account of their goal of genociding 99% of the human population.

I wanna say it's the power armor as a joke but I feel like I'm onto something. There is perhaps some aesthetic dimension to the Enclave that is more appealing. Also maybe they have the same kind of tech freak defenders that House gets. "Sure they're evil autocrats but they will bring us SCIENCE so it's okay."

Vavrek
Mar 2, 2013

I like your style hombre, but this is no laughing matter. Assault on a police officer. Theft of police property. Illegal possession of a firearm. FIVE counts of attempted murder. That comes to... 29 dollars and 40 cents. Cash, cheque, or credit card?

The Enclave just murders people. Caesar's Legion is founded on slavery, surprise sex, and crucifixion. (The Player Character murders plenty of people, so the simple act of murder can't be that bad, right?) The Enclave, additionally, plans to kill vast numbers of people, while the Legion already has committed its atrocities.

Additionally, your point about the difference in depth of ideology is probably relevant. The Enclave are often cartoon villains, and can't be taken very seriously as a result. Caesar's Legion is presented with more of an ideology behind them, and so can be taken more seriously, despised more thoroughly.

The Enclave also has fun character interactions. (That one sergeant in FO2, the cast of Enclave Remnants in FNV. Casting Malcolm McDowell as an All-American President.)

PinheadSlim
Apr 2, 2015

FRIENDS for EVER

NikkolasKing posted:

Why do you think Caesar''s Legion is so hated?

As Vavrek pointed out it has a lot to do with the treatment of women, possession of slaves, permitted surprise sex, and torture on top of desiring to kill anyone who disagrees with them. Not only that, but if you happen to like either drugs or modern medicine then you're poo poo out of luck siding with the legion.

What is to be gained by not hating or even supporting the legion? The vague promise that none of the above horrors will happen to you once they're done conquering? Lol.

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


The Enclave also lost and the survivors had to move on with their lives. New Vegas does a lot to humanize the Enclave with their remnants. They were on the wrong side but many of them are still human, and even outright assholes like Moreno are understandable with their motivations.

The Legion is the new kid on the block and rather than being a continuation of the borderline fascist prewar America, they are the product of one colossal rear end in a top hat who was given every opportunity to be a decent person and instead made all the wrong choices to develop a destructive cult of personality. The Legionaries who aren't enthusiastic adherents to the cause seem to be traumatized individuals like Antony who follow out of fear.

Say what you will about the Enclave being evil bastards, they were still people. The Legion is a cult of indoctrinated fanatics at best.


Mod talk: I have this weird bug I'm not even sure is a bug. For some reason all of my companions' carry weight limits are called at 85. I don't think I'm running any mods that should be affecting their carry weight. If I opened up FNVEdit where should I be looking to see what mods might be impacting my companions this way?

On a related note, a couple of Machienzo's mods that fixed suits, casinos and reputation in Primm are rather outdated. Does the YUP patch fix these issues and can I drop these older mods?

Floodixor
Aug 22, 2003

Forums Electronic MusiciaBRRRIIINGYIPYIPYIPYIP

OK, SO:

I finally just downloaded Fallout - New Vegas (the Ultimate Edition, for what it's worth), as it seems to be a steal at 12 bucks on Humble and I've constantly heard great things about it. I loved Fallout 1 and 2 and those are classics, in my opinion. I never really played any other Fallout games after those.

I come from a camp of loving games like Prey, System Shock 2, Deus Ex, etc. I could only see this game sitting in the Best Of lists for so long and I'm glad I got to grab it, finally.

Question: woah, that's a lod of mods! I'd love to know what some of the MUST HAVE mods are for a first-time runthrough (I read the OPs but didn't see a first run suggested build). I also don't *need* it to look state-of-the-art as I'm running it on a laptop with a NVidea GForce 940MX with 2gig dedicated RAM, so my system is a tad limited power-wise.

What sort of mods do ya'll feel are must-have for ANY playthrough of the game? This edition also came with all of the DLC, if that matters.

Thank you, thread! I'm stoked.

Brain Curry
Feb 15, 2007

People think that I'm lazy
People think that I'm this fool because
I give a fuck about the government
I didn't graduate from high school


NikkolasKing posted:

Why do you think Caesar''s Legion is so hated?

Dude is wearing a severed dog head. There was never a chance for peace.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Brain Curry posted:

Dude is wearing a severed dog head. There was never a chance for peace.

First impressions are everything and the last thing we need on our trip to Vegas is some rear end in a top hat and his bully boy gang smugly harassing us in the middle of an atrocity.

It's fun stealth pick pocketing explosives on them as they leave those ruins.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO


PinheadSlim posted:

As Vavrek pointed out it has a lot to do with the treatment of women, possession of slaves, permitted surprise sex, and torture on top of desiring to kill anyone who disagrees with them. Not only that, but if you happen to like either drugs or modern medicine then you're poo poo out of luck siding with the legion.

What is to be gained by not hating or even supporting the legion? The vague promise that none of the above horrors will happen to you once they're done conquering? Lol.

In the The Turner Diaries there is a Nazi group portrayed as a resistance movement to a Tyrannical Liberal State, where said nazi group has much the same goals and methods of the Legion.
Goals such as mass genocide of degenerates/undesirables who don't look, act and think like they do and ruling through fear of brutal reprisal.

The draw is irrational and vague by design. The constants are power and violence, specifically in your own hands to do unleash on whomever you see fit.

Brain Curry posted:

Dude is wearing a severed dog head. There was never a chance for peace.

It's a coyote head, right?

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


Floodixor posted:

OK, SO:

I finally just downloaded Fallout - New Vegas (the Ultimate Edition, for what it's worth), as it seems to be a steal at 12 bucks on Humble and I've constantly heard great things about it. I loved Fallout 1 and 2 and those are classics, in my opinion. I never really played any other Fallout games after those.

I come from a camp of loving games like Prey, System Shock 2, Deus Ex, etc. I could only see this game sitting in the Best Of lists for so long and I'm glad I got to grab it, finally.

Question: woah, that's a lod of mods! I'd love to know what some of the MUST HAVE mods are for a first-time runthrough (I read the OPs but didn't see a first run suggested build). I also don't *need* it to look state-of-the-art as I'm running it on a laptop with a NVidea GForce 940MX with 2gig dedicated RAM, so my system is a tad limited power-wise.

What sort of mods do ya'll feel are must-have for ANY playthrough of the game? This edition also came with all of the DLC, if that matters.

Thank you, thread! I'm stoked.

New Vegas Anti Crash (NVAC)
New Vegas Tick Fix (NVTF)
CASM
Mod Configuration Menu (MCM)
New Vegas Script Extender (NVSE)
JIP NVSE Plugin
Johnny Guitar NVSE
JIP Improved Recipe Menu
Weapon Mod Menu
Unified Interface Overhaul
Universal Item Sorter
YUP bugfixes
Unofficial Patch NVSE
NV 4GB Patcher
ENBOOST

Those are your baseline mods to keep your game running and add extra functionality for further modding. The recipe mod, the UI mod and the Item Sorter aren't essential but my god are they wonderful quality of life improvements.

I'd suggest you only use ENBOOST if you go hog wild with modding. Since you bought it on a Humble Bundle I think your version of New Vegas already has the 4GB patch applied but if not, run the 4GB executable to avoid memory crashes.

If you see a mod titled Unofficial Patch Plus, don't use it and use the Unofficial Patch NVSE instead. Patch Plus hasn't been updated in two years and the NVSE version does the same thing but better.

Beyond that look up some ini file tweaks to remove the godawful mouse acceleration and alter your FOV to something higher than 65.

Arcsquad12 fucked around with this message at 16:13 on May 23, 2020

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007




Floodixor posted:

OK, SO:

I finally just downloaded Fallout - New Vegas (the Ultimate Edition, for what it's worth), as it seems to be a steal at 12 bucks on Humble and I've constantly heard great things about it. I loved Fallout 1 and 2 and those are classics, in my opinion. I never really played any other Fallout games after those.

I come from a camp of loving games like Prey, System Shock 2, Deus Ex, etc. I could only see this game sitting in the Best Of lists for so long and I'm glad I got to grab it, finally.

Question: woah, that's a lod of mods! I'd love to know what some of the MUST HAVE mods are for a first-time runthrough (I read the OPs but didn't see a first run suggested build). I also don't *need* it to look state-of-the-art as I'm running it on a laptop with a NVidea GForce 940MX with 2gig dedicated RAM, so my system is a tad limited power-wise.

What sort of mods do ya'll feel are must-have for ANY playthrough of the game? This edition also came with all of the DLC, if that matters.

Thank you, thread! I'm stoked.

You can just follow the Viva New Vegas Core install instructions if you want a step-by-step for the baseline fix stuff. Beyond that I don't think there's any other mods that are REQUIRED for a first playthrough. A vanilla run of the game with all of the bugfixes and UI improvements installed is probably alright for a first time through the game.

Though I would probably also install Uncut Wasteland so you get the best experience. Due to console memory limitations, each DLC added required a bunch of content/NPCs to be removed from the base game, and this mod adds that stuff back in because even a weak modern PC can handle it all easily.

bony tony
Aug 9, 2013



When Caesar dies (either by your hand or from the tumor), the Legate Lanius is going to take over and it'll be worse. Caesar has a plan for the Mojave, despotic as it may be, but Lanius will just turn the Legion into another Raider group. Thousands of people will die.

The Legion is a group of wild dogs and they need to be put down.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010





PinheadSlim posted:

As Vavrek pointed out it has a lot to do with the treatment of women, possession of slaves, permitted surprise sex, and torture on top of desiring to kill anyone who disagrees with them. Not only that, but if you happen to like either drugs or modern medicine then you're poo poo out of luck siding with the legion.

What is to be gained by not hating or even supporting the legion? The vague promise that none of the above horrors will happen to you once they're done conquering? Lol.

It wasn't about not hating them, it was about relative standing in the fandom. The Legion inspires a hatred you don't see for any other "evil faction in the setting.

I noticed they often get compared to the Institute in FO4 but that is a poo poo comparison. Arthur Maxson's Brotherhood is far more in the vain of Caesar's Legion. Yet the Brotherhood has always had defenders, even after they go full fash in FO4.

So the Enclave and the FO4 Brotherhood have fans and supporters but the Legion is seen as the vilest of factions. I really do think the power armor is a factor.

Also while everyone hates the Legion, I notice there isn't a lot of bloodshed over who to side with. Compare it with, say, Stormcloaks vs. Imperials and the level of passionate commitment is way lower. I enjoy reading NCR vs. House vs. Wild Card debates but they never veer into the flame wars you see in Skyrim or even Dragon Age with Mages vs. Templars.

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007




NikkolasKing posted:

Also while everyone hates the Legion, I notice there isn't a lot of bloodshed over who to side with. Compare it with, say, Stormcloaks vs. Imperials and the level of passionate commitment is way lower. I enjoy reading NCR vs. House vs. Wild Card debates but they never veer into the flame wars you see in Skyrim or even Dragon Age with Mages vs. Templars.

NCR, House, and Wild Card all have redeeming qualities, whereas the Stormcloaks, Imperials, Mages, and Templars are all garbage. Like Mages seem to all eventually turn into demon-summoning blood mages, so the Templar should oppress them, but the Templar are rapists whose preferred mode of oppression makes the Mages easier to surprise sex and/or exterminate. Since both groups lack any redeeming qualities, but you the player have to pick a side, you now become complicit in their wrongdoing. So you aren't defending the Templars (because they're basically indefensible without going into full-on Nazi apologia) so much as you are defending your decision to side with the Templars, which makes the argument more personal. With the New Vegas factions, I can make a positive argument for why NCR is preferable to House or why going No Gods, No Masters is that best way forward for the region. With the Templar I have to go "listen sure they're rapist Nazis, but" and there's nowhere good for that to go.

Also possible that people are hunting a lot harder for something meaningful in those games since they have poor writing and the storytelling is largely nonexistent, so people have to project more which in turn makes the arguments more personal. The New Vegas factions are much more fully-formed in comparison, so I don't need to construct a narrative in my head about what makes House who he is: there's plenty of text and subtext establishing what he's about and what his path means for the Mojave. Even something like Skyrim with all of its lore books, etc. feels rather sparse and the factions somewhat ill-defined. I guess what I'm saying is that New Vegas has one Caesar's Legion whereas the games you mentioned all have multiple Legions, and further those games force you to pick which Legion you want to support.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Arcsquad12 posted:

New Vegas Anti Crash (NVAC)
New Vegas Tick Fix (NVTF)
CASM
Mod Configuration Menu (MCM)
New Vegas Script Extender (NVSE)
JIP NVSE Plugin
Johnny Guitar NVSE
JIP Improved Recipe Menu
Weapon Mod Menu
Unified Interface Overhaul
Universal Item Sorter
YUP bugfixes
Unofficial Patch NVSE
NV 4GB Patcher
ENBOOST

Those are your baseline mods to keep your game running and add extra functionality for further modding. The recipe mod, the UI mod and the Item Sorter aren't essential but my god are they wonderful quality of life improvements.

I'd suggest you only use ENBOOST if you go hog wild with modding. Since you bought it on a Humble Bundle I think your version of New Vegas already has the 4GB patch applied but if not, run the 4GB executable to avoid memory crashes.

If you see a mod titled Unofficial Patch Plus, don't use it and use the Unofficial Patch NVSE instead. Patch Plus hasn't been updated in two years and the NVSE version does the same thing but better.

Beyond that look up some ini file tweaks to remove the godawful mouse acceleration and alter your FOV to something higher than 65.

I'd also recommend the JSawyer mod, which was made by the guy who directed the game and, though he probably wouldn't approve of calling it this, is basically a "director's cut" mod which hardens up the combat and toughens up the hardcore mode. There's a "JSawyer Plus" mod or something on the nexus which does all the same stuff and some extra

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


I'd take JSawyer mod only after you've done a basic playthrough and get a sense of what features you like and dislike. The mods I've listed above are as vanilla as you can get, and I'm of the mind that you should always try the base game first before you dive off the deep end and spend five hours pouring over your modlist to see what mod is screwing up your companion carry weight.

I still haven't found the solution yet.

SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009


Floodixor posted:

OK, SO:

I finally just downloaded Fallout - New Vegas (the Ultimate Edition, for what it's worth), as it seems to be a steal at 12 bucks on Humble and I've constantly heard great things about it. I loved Fallout 1 and 2 and those are classics, in my opinion. I never really played any other Fallout games after those.

I come from a camp of loving games like Prey, System Shock 2, Deus Ex, etc. I could only see this game sitting in the Best Of lists for so long and I'm glad I got to grab it, finally.

Question: woah, that's a lod of mods! I'd love to know what some of the MUST HAVE mods are for a first-time runthrough (I read the OPs but didn't see a first run suggested build). I also don't *need* it to look state-of-the-art as I'm running it on a laptop with a NVidea GForce 940MX with 2gig dedicated RAM, so my system is a tad limited power-wise.

What sort of mods do ya'll feel are must-have for ANY playthrough of the game? This edition also came with all of the DLC, if that matters.

Thank you, thread! I'm stoked.

So my bare minimum recommendations:
New Vegas Script Extender: Does a bunch of stuff behind the scenes that's less you use other mods
NVAC: New Vegas Anti-Crash: stops crashes, provides error logs. Absolutely essential.
FNV Mod Limit Fix: Fixes an old engine bug, generally makes things more stable as a result.
CASM: Improves autosaves, keeps a ton of autosaves, thank god for CASM.
DARN UI: Makes the UI better if you're not playing on a TV from a couch on the other side of the room.
UIO: Makes basically all UI mods play nice together
oHud: Gopher's UI mods folded into one. Adds a few extra elements, and gives you complete control over them and the existing ones
Fellout: Removes the orange tint.
FNV4GB: This might be integrated into NVSE now, not sure off the top of my head. I know it's integrated into Tale of Two Wastelands, but I'm not sure if NVSE has it fully integrated now too.
Honestly? You can stop right here for essentials. Seriously. New Vegas (especially if you've never played before), is a fantastic game that really doesn't need much in the way in the improvement. I'm not kidding. Obsidian did a great job and you don't really need much to top it off. Some people will recommend VNV but I"m not a fan of the guide, tbh. Not a fan of YUP or any other fan patch, and NVAC prevents most crashing anyway. Some people recommend stuff like stutter remover or tickfix, but I'd hold off on those until you encounter the thing they fix. If I can give you one heavy piece of advice for modding this game (and FO3/4, and TES games) The more poo poo you gently caress with the more likely it is to crash. Less is more. ENB is totally unnecessary, and if your system is constrained by power, I'd recommend avoiding it wholly. It CAN make your game very pretty, but its very resource intensive. Feel free to try it, but I've always found it to be more trouble than it's worth.

For a few more mods for general QOL?

UIO: Makes basically all UI mods play nice together
oHud: Gopher's UI mods folded into one. Adds a few extra elements, and gives you complete control over them and the existing ones.
Honestly, I'd probably put these two in the top group, I loving love iHUD.
Mod Control Menu: Framework a ton of mods use for customization
Weapon Mod Menu: Improves weapon mods, lets you take them off and stuff.
WMX: The best weapon mods mod. Has compatbility patches for...
Weapons of the new millenia: gently caress load of gorgeous looking guns. thank forums user aernovalis for how pretty they are.
Weapon Retexture Project: Makes basically all the original guns so pretty. So very Pretty.
NMC/Poco Beuno/Ojo Bueno. Different texture packs. New Vegas is fairly ugly, i mean, it's loving like a billion years old at this point. I"m a fan of NMC, but it's a preference.
Fellout/UWRL/other lighting mods: Almost all of these remove the tint and add a bunch of lighting and weather improvements. I use UWRL. Or URWL. Whatever the gently caress it's called.

Honestly, these provide a nice mix of improvements without loving with the core game too much. Add more after you finish the game, or find some bullshit really annoying and want to change it. I'd recommend the jswayer plugin at some point, and/or CCO. OP still has good mods in it.

also do yourself a favor and cap your FPS at 60, cause the game can get wonky at high framerates.


Legion Chat: We really only see the worst of the Legion, and never get to see their potential Siding with the Legion involves being wholly taken in by Caesar, and most people just kill him out of hand, which is a shame, because John Doman did a fantastic job voicing him. It's also comparatively hard to get on the Legion's goodside, whereas you basically start in NCR territory and you're more likely to be friends with boone before you ever head to cottonwood cove. The Legion's biggest problem is that it's loyal to Caesar, not to his ideals or even, really, to itself. When Caesar dies the whole thing is going to fall apart, which is why Caesar wants to conquer Vegas and use it to establish a Rome, and a senate, and everything. Unfortunately, much like Daniel and the Sorrows, I don't think Caesar realizes just what his people worship. They actually believe he is Ares, and the Legion is doomed to fall apart from this.

Y'know, I think this is part ways where Bethesda's poo poo design actually does them a favor: You HAVE to listen to the Enclave talk to you a whole bunch before you can get on with beating them. You can completely finish New Vegas without talking to a single member of Caesar's Legion, seeing as you can shoot vulpes before he initiates dialogue. It makes it a lot easier for people to just write them off as senseless villains.

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010





SpookyLizard posted:

Legion Chat: We really only see the worst of the Legion, and never get to see their potential Siding with the Legion involves being wholly taken in by Caesar, and most people just kill him out of hand, which is a shame, because John Doman did a fantastic job voicing him. It's also comparatively hard to get on the Legion's goodside, whereas you basically start in NCR territory and you're more likely to be friends with boone before you ever head to cottonwood cove. The Legion's biggest problem is that it's loyal to Caesar, not to his ideals or even, really, to itself. When Caesar dies the whole thing is going to fall apart, which is why Caesar wants to conquer Vegas and use it to establish a Rome, and a senate, and everything. Unfortunately, much like Daniel and the Sorrows, I don't think Caesar realizes just what his people worship. They actually believe he is Ares, and the Legion is doomed to fall apart from this.

Y'know, I think this is part ways where Bethesda's poo poo design actually does them a favor: You HAVE to listen to the Enclave talk to you a whole bunch before you can get on with beating them. You can completely finish New Vegas without talking to a single member of Caesar's Legion, seeing as you can shoot vulpes before he initiates dialogue. It makes it a lot easier for people to just write them off as senseless villains.

The Legion has the highest quantity of great voices in the game. You mentioned Caesar himself but also Vulpes, Lanius, Graham and Ulysses all have very memorable voices and are a pleasure to listen to. Which is good because they do love to talk.

As for killing Vulpes right away, that is just robbing yourself of a great moment. I distinctly recall for my first NV run I thought the game was alright but then I got to Nipton. Nipton is such a fantastic and memorable moment and it wouldn't be complete without Vulpes being a wonderful spokesman for the faction. And not just in how he describes the Legion's ideals but also in how he blends truth and lies. That is also very Legion.


But yeah, the game really needed those civilian territories. The thing is, Caesar's Legion is just a military group. At their military camp they have slaves and other horrid things but in Legion territory you wouldn't see that kind of thing. It doesn't make them less terrible but you really are just kinda frontloaded all the bad and never shown any of the reasons why the bad is tolerated.

Like, one thing I read online is that Caesar has a priestess class that is exclusively women. A lot of folks take what we see in the game as the only role for women in Caesar land. But that obviously isn't the case.

Is there a mod that creates a proper Legion town?

ThaumPenguin
Oct 9, 2013



SpookyLizard posted:

Some people recommend stuff like stutter remover or tickfix, but I'd hold off on those until you encounter the thing they fix.

also do yourself a favor and cap your FPS at 60, cause the game can get wonky at high framerates.

New Vegas Tick Fix includes a High FPS Fix which solves the physics and lipsync issues of playing above 60 FPS, so if you use that you won't need to cap your framerate at 60.

I use it and get over 100 FPS without any apparent issues, plays like a dream.

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN





Lipstick Apathy

Legion are cosplay incels why wouldn't you hate them??

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010





If people hated cosplayers, House wouldn't have any supporters given New Vegas is nothing more than jhis giant dollhouse where he forces people to dress up and make believe they are mobsters and the like.

I always thought one of New Vegas' best bits of writing was giving us two dictators to choose from, each embodying a different kind of authoritarianism. Yet, at the same time, Ed and Robert are very similar. They come from humble origins but ended up incredibly powerful. They have a great disdain for democracy and egalitarianism. But where Caesar wants an empire of flesh and blood, House wants a kingdom of cold, heartless metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MofSG-vLJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87US9AXNMME

Caesar: The worst impulses of mankind, concentrated in one insane, backward tribe.
House: The world has no use for emotionally unstable techno-fetishists. Just wipe them out, will you?


I love that their criticism of the Brotherhood comes tainted with such obvious hypocrisy. The writers clearly intended to show that, for all their genius, they have massive blind spots due to their narcissism and myopic worldviews.

chitoryu12
Apr 23, 2014



SpookyLizard posted:

Legion Chat: We really only see the worst of the Legion, and never get to see their potential Siding with the Legion involves being wholly taken in by Caesar, and most people just kill him out of hand, which is a shame, because John Doman did a fantastic job voicing him. It's also comparatively hard to get on the Legion's goodside, whereas you basically start in NCR territory and you're more likely to be friends with boone before you ever head to cottonwood cove. The Legion's biggest problem is that it's loyal to Caesar, not to his ideals or even, really, to itself. When Caesar dies the whole thing is going to fall apart, which is why Caesar wants to conquer Vegas and use it to establish a Rome, and a senate, and everything. Unfortunately, much like Daniel and the Sorrows, I don't think Caesar realizes just what his people worship. They actually believe he is Ares, and the Legion is doomed to fall apart from this.

Y'know, I think this is part ways where Bethesda's poo poo design actually does them a favor: You HAVE to listen to the Enclave talk to you a whole bunch before you can get on with beating them. You can completely finish New Vegas without talking to a single member of Caesar's Legion, seeing as you can shoot vulpes before he initiates dialogue. It makes it a lot easier for people to just write them off as senseless villains.

JE Sawyer has popped in to talk about the Legion a few times in the main thread. The "good side" of the Legion is just that their territory is safe from raiders, a rare commodity in the wasteland. That's it.

Something that trips up a lot of people trying to analyze the NV factions is that they've been poisoned by the "Everything is morally grey and there's no good guys or bad guys, just kinda lovely people everywhere" trend. They assume that NV must be that kind of game, where your only choices are ones that are equally problematic and you need to headcanon anything good or bad about them to convince yourself that it was the right choice. In actuality, the Legion were 100% meant to be the bad option that will bring a destructive dictatorship onto the Mojave if they win and the quality of life under the NCR, House, or Courier is completely dependent on how much effort you put into solving the Mojave's issues and ending the factional warfare to keep conflicts from spiraling out of control or factions from being genocided after Hoover Dam.

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Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


It was linked earlier in the thread but I can't remember the name. It was a mod that added a bunch of custom voiced NPCs to the game and I think it was by the same people who did Interesting NPCs for Skyrim? I can't find it on the Nexus.

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