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ThaumPenguin
Oct 9, 2013

I don't think

e: well this isn't ideal

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Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

SpookyLizard posted:

PN still works fine, more or less, but some people find it can lead to poor performance and theres other mods that can replicate its effects with less of an alleged performance hit.

I've looked into a few replacements but I can only find a few (standalone Cybernetics, but there's stuff I have that requires PN-Cybernetics so I don't think I can replace them), and nothing that changes what I like the most, the combat adjustments (I set DT reduction to 99% max)

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Improbable Lobster posted:

i don't think house is significantly better than the legioin

I would go so far as to say that House is indeed significantly better than the Legion

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

2house2fly posted:

I would go so far as to say that House is indeed significantly better than the Legion

I disagree

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
House is better than both the Legion and the NCR

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz6OGVCdov8

also have you considered that the NCR sucks because they don't live up to utopian ideals that literally no society ever has either in the fallout universe or the real world?

In this 4 part essay, I will show that

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

chitoryu12 posted:

Rabid House supporters are almost definitely libertarians.

for real

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Agents are GO! posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz6OGVCdov8

also have you considered that the NCR sucks because they don't live up to utopian ideals that literally no society ever has either in the fallout universe or the real world?

In this 4 part essay, I will show that


:hmmyes:

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
What do they eat?

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

MariusLecter posted:

What do they eat?

Fallout 3 thread is thataway -->

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

MariusLecter posted:

What do they eat?

Bloatflies

SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009

Internet Wizard posted:

Making “deals” under the barrel of a gun that erase entire societies and cultures just because somebody else might do the same thing doesn’t make it better

No, the NCR wouldve never have made such an offer. They either wouldve been absorbed with no real bonuses unlike house, or they wouldve been kicked off their land where they would end up like the khans at best or dead. Or crushed or abosrbed into the Legion. Theres no loving might about it, its the cold reality of the region.

2house2fly posted:

On the other hand, the Khans specifically didn't take this deal

the khans are not well known for their good decision making skills. they never have been. their only notable quality is how they havent been wiped out yet.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

SpookyLizard posted:

No, the NCR wouldve never have made such an offer. They either wouldve been absorbed with no real bonuses unlike house, or they wouldve been kicked off their land where they would end up like the khans at best or dead. Or crushed or abosrbed into the Legion. Theres no loving might about it, its the cold reality of the region.

No benefits to NCR rule at all, such as "Removal of raiders" and "Improvement in the standard of living."

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Hey I'm gonna guess your reasoning for hating the NCR is gonna be "taxes."

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Paying taxes to the NCR has brought many benefits to the people of the New Vegas area, such as and

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fiends? Not our problem, here's your tax bill for the quarter!

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

So...libertarians.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Just saying, there is a thread for non-modding conversations.

Just saying.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

chitoryu12 posted:

So...libertarians.

No? the NCR is sucking out money and offering no benefit to the people. No protection, no infrastructure, no anything.

House's robot army will deal with the fiends :colbert:

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Agents are GO! posted:

Just saying, there is a thread for non-modding conversations.

Just saying.

I wouldn't have made my post about the Legion/Turner diaries if I hadn't confused this thread with that one.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Randaconda posted:

No? the NCR is sucking out money and offering no benefit to the people. No protection, no infrastructure, no anything.

House's robot army will deal with the fiends :colbert:

And anyone who doesn't conform or is poor.

Stuck on a cross or have a killbot sicked on me. Tough choice.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Raygereio posted:

Okay. But why is House specifically evil for doing it. When the NCR and the Legion do basically the same imperialism thing?

Edit: And evil AI overlord YesMan will undoubtedly be pulling the same poo poo.

to be fair to the NCR, the Khans (and Jackals and Vipers) came from the same Vault the NCR did so eliminating them isn't really "imperialism" as much as it's Sherman's March to the Sea.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Admiral Ray posted:

to be fair to the NCR, the Khans (and Jackals and Vipers) came from the same Vault the NCR did so eliminating them isn't really "imperialism" as much as it's Sherman's March to the Sea.

Sherman specifically refrained from killing women and children. The NCR chose a different path.

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Randaconda posted:

No? the NCR is sucking out money and offering no benefit to the people. No protection, no infrastructure, no anything.

House's robot army will deal with the fiends :colbert:

The NCR is operating two military bases, several outposts, and is the only reason Caesar hasn't murdered or enslaved everyone in the area. This is alongside building rail line (until the Powder Gangers staged a jail break), operating a concrete quarry, establishing sharecropper fields, managing caravan traffic in and out of the region, and shipping relief supplies to Freeside. The NCR is a dumb, bloated bureaucracy, but they are doing plenty of things in the region.

Edit: and the real money flow is out of the NCR and into House's coffers. Without NCR citizens those casinos don't have any customers.

Wicked Them Beats fucked around with this message at 19:54 on May 27, 2020

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
Without NCR citizens those casinos don't exist because they aren't needed

Vavrek
Mar 2, 2013

I like your style hombre, but this is no laughing matter. Assault on a police officer. Theft of police property. Illegal possession of a firearm. FIVE counts of attempted murder. That comes to... 29 dollars and 40 cents. Cash, cheque, or credit card?
So hey, about modding, I tried using FNVLODGen and it did not work right at all.



The way it seems is as if the newly generated stuff is displayed, but all the standard distant objects are made invisible.

A closer picture:


Apparently I don't have any other screenshots from before I disabled/deleted all that stuff to get back to the entirely functional vanilla LODs.

Any ideas? Any suggestions for what settings to use when re-running generation to see if I can make it work, or at least get closer to diagnosing the problem?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I'd suggest using XLodGen instead of FNVLodGen. The Viva New Vegas modding guide should also have a walkthrough on the right way to generate LODs. I'm phone posting so I can't exactly go into detail.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Randaconda posted:

Sherman specifically refrained from killing women and children. The NCR chose a different path.

true.i guess it was less imperialism and more like the genocide that the Israelites carried out against the Canaanites.

ThaumPenguin
Oct 9, 2013

Taerkar posted:

I've looked into a few replacements but I can only find a few (standalone Cybernetics, but there's stuff I have that requires PN-Cybernetics so I don't think I can replace them), and nothing that changes what I like the most, the combat adjustments (I set DT reduction to 99% max)

Check this page out, it provides some suggestions for replacements

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Thanks, that is useful.

Just really wish that they didn't use Johnny Guitar, the nexus page for it just skeeves me.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
poo poo, so it was JIP all along that was causing the negative effects of alcohol to not be applied. I was prepping a low intelligence run once and I was going to use high survival and alcohol to get the right effect, but JIP seems to have removed the scaling detrimental effects.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/news/14278

New Vegas Script Extender gets its first update in three years.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Arcsquad12 posted:

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/news/14278

New Vegas Script Extender gets its first update in three years.

I just got a mod order I liked completely set and made some real progress in the game, so y'all can thank me for this.

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider
thank you

Basic Chunnel
Sep 21, 2010

Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!

Broke my game and reverting to the last stable version didn't work :[

*e bah, loving renderer, had to go in by hand and fix the resolution. Seems to work pretty well.

Basic Chunnel fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jun 6, 2020

CFox
Nov 9, 2005
gently caress me I swore I wouldn’t get drug back into this game.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Modding is a drug. Wait until you're spending more time organizing files and making compatibility patches than you spend actually playing the game.

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo
That's what's great about New Vegas imo. It requires the least amount of modding of all of these types of game (from a gameplay perspective)

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Big stability issues though. I'm generally finding that after five or six new zones the game will crash out while transitioning between areas.

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Floodixor
Aug 22, 2003

Forums Electronic MusiciaBRRRIIINGYIPYIPYIPYIP
Since my last post a few weeks ago in this threat, I got my mod process all set up (thank you for the offer of help, though, thread!) and I'm loving it.

Right now I've reached, I think, the tipping point between all factions and have to make a call which will fail some quests for some factions etc. Like I can't go to the Hoover Dam and day I got rid of the great hkans (which I did via my Speech 100) because it auto puts me into the next NCR quest and fails like 5 quests for me. I love this game, particularly because I LOVED fallout 1 and 2,butbthen never played any fallout games after that until this one. There's a very particular Fallout vibe and this game captures it beautifully, thank u Obsidian

My mods are WME, EVE, NMC medium texture pck, NVAC, and URWLNV, plus an orange tint remover and pip boy interface upgrade. Anything in missing, in yalls opinion?

I just started the Old World Blues DLC and while the humor started getting WAY too cute and nerdy, it's an interesting deviation. Anyway, game owns, Legion are purposefully bad, I sort of want to side with NCR since they were the first major players introduced to me in the game and I've been helping them out the longest, but I also want to kill everyone except the followers.

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