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Raygereio
Nov 12, 2012


EVE is a bloated, unoptimized mess of a mod. It does make VFX for lasers and plasma look pretty and more flashy, but it also does things like make NPCs puke when hit by a pulse gun.

If you want to use it, I would spend some time with the GECK & FNVEdit to strip all of the dumb poo poo out. Or maybe look at EXE https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/62989

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Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013


I've been playing with EXE and I think it's fine, to be honest, although in all honesty, I didn't really notice much of a difference from vanilla.

cheeseboy58
Dec 14, 2020


dipping my toes into this again and would it be too much if i can see some peoples load orders? think it would be easier to skim through mods goons have chosen for compatibility reasons instead of trying to patch my own frankenstein myself (and suffer the consequences)

Proletarian Mango
May 21, 2011



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmeJUAjR9cw

Proletarian Mango
May 21, 2011



cheeseboy58 posted:

dipping my toes into this again and would it be too much if i can see some peoples load orders? think it would be easier to skim through mods goons have chosen for compatibility reasons instead of trying to patch my own frankenstein myself (and suffer the consequences)

Here's my current set up. First block is everything I have installed as listed in Mod Organizer 2. The only conflicts in this list is between Weapon Mesh Improvement Mod overwriting YUP with it's own fixes and between Vanilla UI Plus Revelation overwriting bits of Consistent Pip-Boy Icons and The Mod Configuration Menu (but UIO automagically handles and corrects conflicts between UI mods):

quote:

#Mod_Priority,#Mod_Name
"0000","DLC: TribalPack"
"0001","DLC: OldWorldBlues"
"0002","DLC: MercenaryPack"
"0003","DLC: LonesomeRoad"
"0004","DLC: HonestHearts"
"0005","DLC: GunRunnersArsenal"
"0006","DLC: DeadMoney"
"0007","DLC: ClassicPack"
"0008","DLC: CaravanPack"
"0010","NVTF - New Vegas Tick Fix"
"0011","FNV Mod Limit Fix"
"0013","Yukichigai Unofficial Patch - YUP"
"0014","Navmesh Fixes and Improvements"
"0015","Unofficial Patch NVSE"
"0016","Weapon Mesh Improvement Mod"
"0017","Fix for the Caesar Legion Armors"
"0018","lStewieAl's Tweaks"
"0020","Melee Reach Fixed"
"0021","Melee Cleave (a.k.a. Sweep)"
"0022","Quick Search"
"0023","Sierra Madre Exterior Fixed"
"0024","Psycho and Slasher Bonus Damage Fix"
"0025","Whiskey Rose Perk Fix"
"0026","No Muzzle Flash Lights"
"0027","Tetris"
"0028","Tutorial Killer"
"0029","Faster Pip-Boy Animation"
"0030","No Traps Popup"
"0031","Character Creation Streamlined"
"0032","New Vegas Uncut - Outside Bets"
"0033","Uncut Wasteland"
"0035","The Living Desert - Travelers Patrols Consequences Increased Population and more"
"0037","LSO - A Lightweight Strip Overhaul"
"0038","Functional Post Game Ending"
"0040","jsawyer_fnv_mod"
"0042","UIO - User Interface Organizer"
"0043","The Mod Configuration Menu"
"0044","JIP Improved Recipe Menu"
"0045","Simple DLC Delay"
"0046","Consistent Pip-Boy Icons"
"0047","Vanilla UI Plus Revelation (New Vegas)"
"0049","FOV Slider"

My actual .esp/.esm load order is:

quote:

DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
CaravanPack.esm
YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm
Navmesh Fixes and Improvements.esm
Lightweight Strip Overhaul.esm
TLD_Travelers.esm
Functional Post Game Ending.esm
Unofficial Patch NVSE.esp
YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp
FIXforLegionArmors.esp
Psycho and Slasher Bonus Damage Fix.esp
Whiskey Rose Perk Fix.esp
DisableMuzzleFlashLights.esp
Functional Post Game Ending - YUP Patch.esp
WMIMNV.esp
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
FOVSlider.esp
JIP Improved Recipe Menu.esp
QuickSearch.esp
Tetris.esp
CPI Icons.esp
Character Creation Streamlined.esp
Tutorial Killer.esp
Simple DLC Delay.esp
NoTrapsPopup.esp
Melee Reach Revised.esp
MeleeCleave.esp
Uncut Wasteland.esp
Lightweight Strip Overhaul - Uncut Wasteland Patch.esp
Functional Post Game Ending - Uncut Wasteland Patch.esp
outsidebets.esp
Functional Post Game Ending - Outside Bets Patch.esp
jsawyer.esp

And here are all the NVSE plugins I have manually installed:

quote:

Improved Lighting Shaders
JIP NVSE Plugin
JohnnyGuitar NVSE Plugin
Mod Limit Fix
New Vegas Anti Crash
New Vegas Tick Fix

Twincityhacker
Feb 18, 2011



Publishing 0.95 version of my Cooking Expansion Mod for Goon Review before I upload it to the Nexus. It adds a cooked version of all meats, a superior cooked version of all meats, boiled eggs, and omelets. Also adds Broc Flower Tea. 0.95 adds three new recipes and the meshes and textures for one of the food items.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sihgfhnKXIyC_nW5jXk6E6BJ0MyuLO5Q/view?usp=sharing

As regarding mod listings, mine is pretty janky because it keeps resorting it alphabetically. I built my load order not too long ago, so these are the mods that I'm using that isn't in Viva New Vegas:

Sortomatic ( For Afterschool Special )
Afterschool Special - A housing mod with a small quest to get together that I'm trying out
Lombard Station - Another Housing Mod, this one Goon Built and Approved.
Bottle That Water
Pickable Pinyon Nuts - Adds Pinyon Nut Trees
Craft Lunchbox Recipe
Jsawyer - orginal flavor
Nuka-Cola Collection

And Hunting Reimaged. = D

Alacron
Feb 15, 2007

-->Have tearful reunion with your son
-->Eh

Fun Shoe

Twincityhacker posted:

Publishing 0.95 version of my Cooking Expansion Mod for Goon Review before I upload it to the Nexus. It adds a cooked version of all meats, a superior cooked version of all meats, boiled eggs, and omelets. Also adds Broc Flower Tea. 0.95 adds three new recipes and the meshes and textures for one of the food items.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sihgfhnKXIyC_nW5jXk6E6BJ0MyuLO5Q/view?usp=sharing

If you're not gonna insert all your weird fetishes and a bunch of slurs into your mod, then what is even the point?

Nobody Interesting
Mar 29, 2013

Stay frosty, America.


Freeside Review is pretty rad. I don't think I've found any of the changes to be too egregious, except maybe the player home. It's small, but why can I waltz into Freeside and immediately enter "Player Home"?

Bar called MOE is actually pretty adorable. I like the tunnel going into the bank. If it was a bit harder to get into it'd be neat if there were phat stacks of Pre-War Money in there.

Only real disappointment I have is that it's very obviously unfinished, being full of "What do you need?" NPCs. Dude clearly has ambition, hope the mod doesn't fall apart under its own weight.


Alacron posted:

If you're not gonna insert all your weird fetishes and a bunch of slurs into your mod, then what is even the point?

Natural Harvest: Cooking with Deathclaw cum

Twincityhacker
Feb 18, 2011



Alacron posted:

If you're not gonna insert all your weird fetishes and a bunch of slurs into your mod, then what is even the point?

I am cheered that no one is accusing me of food porn.

cheeseboy58
Dec 14, 2020


Proletarian Mango posted:

Here's my current set up. First block is everything I have installed as listed in Mod Organizer 2. The only conflicts in this list is between Weapon Mesh Improvement Mod overwriting YUP with it's own fixes and between Vanilla UI Plus Revelation overwriting bits of Consistent Pip-Boy Icons and The Mod Configuration Menu (but UIO automagically handles and corrects conflicts between UI mods):


My actual .esp/.esm load order is:


And here are all the NVSE plugins I have manually installed:

thanks a lot. slowly getting through some of these plugins etc but cant wait. also i found this which im suprised hasnt been done before until now. might make it my first playthrough

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/70845

e: lol this mod owns a lot

cheeseboy58 fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Feb 14, 2021

Nobody Interesting
Mar 29, 2013

Stay frosty, America.


Unofficial Patch NVSE got hidden today and it's directing people to Unofficial Patch NVSE Plus instead, which also got updated today.

moot the hopple
Apr 26, 2008

dyslexic Bowie clone

CASM hasn't been updated in a while and I hear it got deprecated with some of the latest plugins. What's the current go-to for save manager mods?

RangerKarl
Oct 7, 2013


moot the hopple posted:

CASM hasn't been updated in a while and I hear it got deprecated with some of the latest plugins. What's the current go-to for save manager mods?

Current wisdom is to use Stewie's Tweaks (again), there's some bits in the configuration to do with autosaving. I think it fixes vanilla save behavior in general?

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


Tammer's outfit mod got updated and I got a chuckle out of one of their new armour descriptions:

quote:

Dominator Armor NEW!
Grants +1 Strength, +10 Unarmed damage, and +10 Melee damage, at the cost of -2 Charisma.
Weight: 25, DR: 0, DT: 10
Medium Armor, repaired with Scribe Robes

This outfit was designed for Couriers who enjoy joining objectively-evil, fascist paramilitary organizations and want everyone to be able to see from a mile away what a fragile, belligerent, toxic rear end in a top hat they are -- Couriers who may already have a goatee and sunglasses, but lacking a blacked-out pickup truck adorned with Punisher decals in which to record videos crying about "the Libs", have no other way to project their whiny small-dick snowflake energy. Well, why not compensate by wearing armor made up of elements taken from all the most badass and powerful undefeated factions in the Wasteland? This armor was made using the cape from the Legion Praetorian armor ("Legion women know their place!"), the pants and boots from the Enclave Officer outfit ("Eden is still your president!"), the pauldron from the Remnants Power Armor ("The Enclave will rise again!"), the Brotherhood Elder's robe ("Human lives matter!"), and Liberty Prime's forearms ("Muh freedums!").

Nobody Interesting
Mar 29, 2013

Stay frosty, America.


So there's Mojave Music Radio Extended which adds extra songs to the radio, but is there anything that does the same for the ambient music in Freeside/Strip/Casinos?

Dreamsicle
Oct 16, 2013



Speaking of Tammer's mod, will anything bad if I use updated versions of the mod with the Living in New Vegas arnor plugin? Same goes for the other mods that use LiNV specific patch mods.

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

Y2K girl


So uuuh Mike Burnfire just put out a video defending The Frontier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz4Q0ExgRPo&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=MikeBurnVlog

Basic Chunnel
Sep 21, 2010

Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!



Who

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

Y2K girl



Youtuber who plays fallout New Vegas mods. If you've seen a video called "Zach's gun rants compilation" that's from Mike's channel.

Jamie Faith fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Feb 16, 2021

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO


He spent more time talking about how mods are passion projects and free content than anything substantive. Even then it was vague and just excuses.

Thanks for the free and passionate cringe.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC


The same poo poo that gets trucked out every time a mod gets criticized then.

Like, yeah you should take into account that mods are often amateur solo effort passion projects when it comes to a mod being a little unpolished or rough around the edges. Less so when the mod is actively awful.

Crazy Joe Wilson
Jul 4, 2007

Justifiably Mad!


moot the hopple posted:

CASM hasn't been updated in a while and I hear it got deprecated with some of the latest plugins. What's the current go-to for save manager mods?

I still use it without any problems. What is the supposed problem?

Halser
Aug 24, 2016


I managed to fix an issue that's been bugging me for dozens of hours now.

If for some reason corpses flip the gently caress out and fly randomly whenever you load a zone, sink into the ground or similar annoying poo poo, just change 'bAutomaticFPSFix=1' on NVTF.ini to 0. Not sure why it was screwing everything over, I thought it was the Ragdolls mod that did it.

Cross-Section
Mar 18, 2009



RangerKarl posted:

Current wisdom is to use Stewie's Tweaks (again), there's some bits in the configuration to do with autosaving. I think it fixes vanilla save behavior in general?

Fair warning, when I used this mod with the save tweaks enabled I started getting regular crashes that persisted until I turned them back off.

Granted, this was back in October and obviously the rest of the mod works just fine. Just a heads up.

Paul Revere 3000
Dec 8, 2007

So like a pimp I'm pimpin'
I got a boat to eat shrimp in
Nothing wrong with my leg
I'm just B-boy limpin'




Halser posted:

I managed to fix an issue that's been bugging me for dozens of hours now.

If for some reason corpses flip the gently caress out and fly randomly whenever you load a zone, sink into the ground or similar annoying poo poo, just change 'bAutomaticFPSFix=1' on NVTF.ini to 0. Not sure why it was screwing everything over, I thought it was the Ragdolls mod that did it.



I've had that issue too. Thanks for the tip.

RangerKarl
Oct 7, 2013


Cross-Section posted:

Fair warning, when I used this mod with the save tweaks enabled I started getting regular crashes that persisted until I turned them back off.

Granted, this was back in October and obviously the rest of the mod works just fine. Just a heads up.

Have not experienced any of that, at least not until very very late in the game. Mileage may vary, as always.

Nobody Interesting
Mar 29, 2013

Stay frosty, America.


VNV isn't interested in a JSUE patch to change the Varmint Rifle back to 5.56mm, but there's a patching esp if any of you want it.

Nobody Interesting fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Feb 16, 2021

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really



Is JSUE really better than JSawyer?

Basic Chunnel
Sep 21, 2010

Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!



If encumbrance mechanics weren't punishing enough for you, yes.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really



Me and my pal "Player.Modav Carryweight" have a lot to say about encumbrance in Fallout.

Zereth
Jul 8, 2003




It's got a config file which lets you adjust most of the changes to your liking.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012



Taerkar posted:

Me and my pal "Player.Modav Carryweight" have a lot to say about encumbrance in Fallout.

Yeah default is way too high. Games a lot funner once you cut it's a third

Nobody Interesting
Mar 29, 2013

Stay frosty, America.


Taerkar posted:

Is JSUE really better than JSawyer?

Main reason I picked it for my run and why VNV has added it now is due to compatibility with other mods. The changelog does a good job of making it clear what changes are rope kid's originals, ones which the modder has added in, and tweaks to the originals, so combing through with xEdit to make your own patch isn't too difficult. Patch I linked is case in point.

Encumbrance chat: I finally realised inventory management isn't fun. My max carryweight is 1000 now. I wanted to use lStewie to make everything except weapons and armour weightless but setting it crashed the game for me. I am completely insane and play this game in Linux (i use arch btw ) so that probably had something to do with it.

Magmarashi
May 20, 2009







So I am having a really weird issue with NVSE suddenly

I did a fresh install, genned my ini files, tossed NVSE in and started up the game to make sure poo poo worked and...NVSE just opens a small window in the corner with a black screen and does nothing at all. Game starts up fine through vanilla methods, it's just NVSE doing this.

Nobody Interesting
Mar 29, 2013

Stay frosty, America.


Have you run the 4GB patcher? It does stuff, things, and stuff to make sure the game always launches with NVSE and large address awareness. I had a similar issue to yours until I ran that. Might help, might not.

Magmarashi
May 20, 2009







Nobody Interesting posted:

Have you run the 4GB patcher? It does stuff, things, and stuff to make sure the game always launches with NVSE and large address awareness. I had a similar issue to yours until I ran that. Might help, might not.

Sadly did not help


Restarting my computer made it behave so who loving knows lol

Magmarashi fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Feb 17, 2021

Halser
Aug 24, 2016


Nobody Interesting posted:

Main reason I picked it for my run and why VNV has added it now is due to compatibility with other mods. The changelog does a good job of making it clear what changes are rope kid's originals, ones which the modder has added in, and tweaks to the originals, so combing through with xEdit to make your own patch isn't too difficult. Patch I linked is case in point.

Encumbrance chat: I finally realised inventory management isn't fun. My max carryweight is 1000 now. I wanted to use lStewie to make everything except weapons and armour weightless but setting it crashed the game for me. I am completely insane and play this game in Linux (i use arch btw ) so that probably had something to do with it.

I'm on the fence about inventory management. It makes sense in games where you're not able to just go back and pick up the poo poo you left behind easily, makes all the stuff you leave behind have a lasting impact.

New Vegas is a bit too peaceful of a world for the survival/inventory planning aspect to really shine, and with fast travel it really just becomes busywork after the beginning of the game.

I think it works on games like STALKER and FO4 Survival because the world is loving brutal and every WG that you spend on ammo or medicine is one that you can't spend on stuff that could get you better equipment. Still, even in those the inventory management just becomes annoying later in the game.




but it still feels like cheating to modav it away.

Nobody Interesting
Mar 29, 2013

Stay frosty, America.


That's just it. I don't see Fallout as a survival game, it just isn't balanced that way.

There's elements of hardcore that I like. I like that combat's harder so I'm not immediately becoming a Bethesda Game God, and the hardcore needs give purpose to a whole world of items that are otherwise more or less pointless - stimpaks and sarsparilla are plentiful enough to make it so I don't need to eat food or drink water in non-hardcore.

But while that mechanic, for me, adds an extra dimension to the game, inventory management just...doesn't. modav is definitely cheating but I can't think of a better solution. It'd be handy if weapons and armour had weight, because at least then I'd have to consider my loadout, but until lStewie starts working for me (or I stop being stupid and just play on Windows) I don't know what else to do

Proletarian Mango
May 21, 2011



I think like Fallout hits just the right balance. Your inventory is limited but not so much so that it feels like a burden you're constantly having to micromanage. I feel like having an unlimited inventory with a need to offload unwanted items at a vendor feels incongruous. Like, with a vendor system there's an implication of a scarcity of resources in the world that you the player have to overcome by shopping at a vendor to get said resources, and having to trade items you do have for the things you want can be a difficult decision in choosing what stays and what goes when your carrying capacity is limited because then you're having to choose between an item's use as a item and it's use as currency. It's can be very effective in creating a sense of survival, even in non-survival games if the atmosphere of the game benefits from it. With an unlimited inventory there's no need to worry about what stays and what goes in-between trips to the vendor since you can hoover everything up. I think if you go the unlimited inventory route then I think it should be taken to it's logical conclusion and just have vendor items automatically converted into useable resources/currency for the player upon pickup. You could even take that one step further and cut out the vendor items altogether and just have all pickups either be something the player can absolutely use or straight cash that is used to buy items that can be used by the player.

e: gently caress it, replace all items with floating weapon/health/armor pickups like in quake 3. looting it tedious imo

Proletarian Mango fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Feb 18, 2021

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Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS



I'm one of those sick fucks that enjoys Fallout inventory management and loves weighted ammo.

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