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LightWarden
Mar 18, 2007

Lander county's safe as heaven,
despite all the strife and boilin',
Tin Star,
Oh how she's an icon of the eastern west,
But now the time has come to end our song,
of the Tin Star, the Tin Star!
New chapters of Good Ending and A Town Where You Live

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SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~

LightWarden posted:

New chapters of Good Ending

This series is such a loving trainwreck, goddamn.

Baron Snow
Feb 8, 2007


GE Issue 66 Discussion: I'm not sure if I'm more pissed that something I'd guessed 50 chapters ago turned out to be 100% right, meaning it was way too predictable, or that it took all chapter to tell the story of what happened.

Baron Snow
Feb 8, 2007


Good Ending 67 Main character bucks up, and a side relationship fucks up.

LightWarden
Mar 18, 2007

Lander county's safe as heaven,
despite all the strife and boilin',
Tin Star,
Oh how she's an icon of the eastern west,
But now the time has come to end our song,
of the Tin Star, the Tin Star!
New Oresama Teacher.

Yomtom
Aug 9, 2005

Sup?
Oh my god Lovely Complex is hilarious, you can pause it almost anywhere and get a great picture/gif scene how did I not watch this sooner?


Click here for the full 1153x859 image.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Lovely Complex is so .gif and screencappable it's almost ridiculous. The story of Risa and Otani and their undying love

for the worst band in the world.

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

MORT cancels dance: interrupted by MORT
New Kaichou wa Maid Sama up on Mangafox, but holy poo poo the translation is terrible.

So, so terrible. :eng99:

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

After hearing about it in another thread I thought I'd give Paradise Kiss a look, only one episode in but I really want to say that the ED is goddamn awesome. When it started I was thinking it sounded really familiar but it didn't finally click that it was Franz Ferdinand until it was over and I had a big smile on my face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMyewX1aDRs

The show looks pretty decent, I was wondering if it or the manga is generally considered better. It also reminds me that I really need to get around to watching Nana.

Drunken Butterfly
Jan 6, 2011

NO SWEETS!
I loved Paradise Kiss and yes that ED is the absolute best. Good luck with Nana if you decide to watch it, it's great but filled with a whole lot of :smith:

Drunken Butterfly
Jan 6, 2011

NO SWEETS!
e: nothing to see here

Snow Halation
Dec 29, 2008

If you like Yazawa, you need to read her earlier stuff. The main ones you must read are:
-Gokinjo Monogatari (Neighborhood Story): Paradise Kiss is a non-direct sequel to this manga. WARP!
-Tenshi Nanka ja Nai (I'm Not an Angel): IMHO, Yazawa's best work. Less angst than usual.
-Kagen no Tsuki (Last Quarter): A fairly short (3 volumes) romance with lots of atmosphere and mystery.

Kusaru
Dec 20, 2006


I'm a Bro-ny!

LightWarden posted:

New Oresama Teacher.

The group that picked this up is burning through it, they're up to ch. 33 and releasing a new one every 2-3 days.

Edit: Ah, the translation/editing isn't that great, though.

Kusaru fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Feb 8, 2011

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

I'm starting to wonder if there ever be more chapters for Aoi Hana. The last chapter came out in November and it comes out every two months, but I haven't seen anything since then. I wonder if it's behind in publishing or translating, I can't find anything about a hiatus anywhere. I suppose it's possible she's concentrating on Hourou Musuko with the anime for that currently airing.

Maybe I just need to work on my patience, it hasn't really been that long.

Edit: maybe now is a good time to start Oresama Teacher or read some of Yazawa's stuff.

a kitten fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Feb 8, 2011

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Oresama Teacher looks to be pretty amusing, though I'm not that far in to it yet. I just want to complain that there is way too much English being written in vertical columns. It's really hard to read that way.

Edit: and there's Aoi Hana 37 too. Spoilers I guess; Fumi's come out to even more people, and so far it's gone really well for her (as could only be hoped) I'm worried for her if or when someone doesn't take it as well. :( Overall a nice little chapter. It's good to see a couple that are getting along well, even if they're still nervous and tentative about their new relationship.

a kitten fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Feb 17, 2011

Baron Snow
Feb 8, 2007


GE updates after it's delay 70 & 71. Will rage if the chapters demand it.

Post reading edit: My god, 3 mostly cutesy chapters in a row, is this the same comic?

Baron Snow fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Feb 27, 2011

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~

Baron Snow posted:

GE updates after it's delay 70 & 71. Will rage if the chapters demand it.

Post reading edit: My god, 3 mostly cutesy chapters in a row, is this the same comic?

Don't worry, we're inching back toward train wreck again. Also, I love how aware Eri is of how stupid bullshit tends to happen to Utsumi when it comes to girls.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Just finished up watching the Paradise Kiss anime, loved it start to finish. Everything was so good except for the actual animation quality, but that's alright. I decided to hold off on watching Nana for a bit, while I definitely don't have a problem with and usually enjoy shows/books/comics with believable drama and/or heartbreak in general, I do seem to be having a problem with that sort of thing at this particular point. Definitely will be checking it out in the future though.

Other than a handful of horror films, I'm not familiar with Japanese movies and aren't sure if I would enjoy this or not, but here's an English subbed trailer for the upcomming Paradise Kiss live action film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMSZu_3S6vE

I recently stared both Ore-sama Teacher and Good Ending but neither have really grabbed me. With Oresama none of the characters have interested me and teacher/student romantic interest just seems weird to me, even if that's a pretty common trope all over the place. Not a fan of the delinquent fighting stuff either, for whatever reason. I can't put my finger on why GE isn't interesting me, maybe it's just my mood, maybe it's just shonen romance is different than shoujo romance and I'm not used to it yet. Putting these two on hold for a bit, I'll revisit them later on perhaps.


Edit: it turns out the perfect remedy to being in a funk is to read something that is ridiculous and funny. Dragon Half for example. The sudden art shifts and off the wall humor is just as good, if not better in the manga than the (sadly only) two episode anime. It sure isn't shoujo, but drat it's fun. :xd:

Re-edit: at about halfway through it turned from a funny comic with tongue in cheek cheesecake bits to attempting to be actually titillating and the art lost whole lot of its' charm, the storyline is still amusing at least.

a kitten fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Mar 2, 2011

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
I've been reading through Tokyo Crazy Paradise, but every time they awkwardly use a japanese word instead of translating it makes me laugh harder than any of the actual content.

Gaki alone is pretty amusing, but every time they talk about the kagi I start laughing far more than is warranted.

Also, it needs to loving stop with the older men and 14 year old girls already.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~
WHAT YOU WERE SEEING IS PART OF MY SKORT: Chapter 72

Haha yes, trainwreck mode ENGAGED.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Ahahaha, this is so badly written and creepy. http://www.mangafox.com/manga/zutto_suki_datta_kuse_ni/

Kusaru
Dec 20, 2006


I'm a Bro-ny!

Serious Frolicking posted:

Ahahaha, this is so badly written and creepy. http://www.mangafox.com/manga/zutto_suki_datta_kuse_ni/

Stories like that are unfortunately common.


Does anyone have suggestions for romance with actual progress involving people past high school?

LightWarden
Mar 18, 2007

Lander county's safe as heaven,
despite all the strife and boilin',
Tin Star,
Oh how she's an icon of the eastern west,
But now the time has come to end our song,
of the Tin Star, the Tin Star!
Maison Ikkoku. Still Rumiko Takahashi's best work.

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya

Kusaru posted:

Does anyone have suggestions for romance with actual progress involving people past high school?

If you can wait ~36 episodes, Honey & Clover.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Kusaru posted:

Does anyone have suggestions for romance with actual progress involving people past high school?

Itazura na Kiss "Playful Kiss" starts out in high school and continues all the way through the end of college. It's good and I enjoyed it, but the male lead/love interest pissed me off throughout most of it. Other than him, everyone else in the cast is pretty decent though. I haven't read the manga, but the anime is available here, and hasn't had a US release.

Honey and Clover is a great show too, the only thing I didn't like was Yuuta's overly long bicycle trip, I appreciate what it did for his character it just went on too long for my tastes.

A series that I've recently fallen for (and am anxiously awaiting the final two chapters to be released) is Octave, assuming you don't mind if the two leads are both women. One is a singer who quit high school to try to make it in an idol group, the other is a singer-songwriter she meets when she moves to Tokyo. Unlike most yuri-type stuff it actually deals with and discusses issues of sexual orientation. Lots of ups and downs throughout it, some pretty big mistakes are made and sometimes the characters can be infuriating, but believably and interestingly so. It also deals with and shows sex and sexuality fairly explicitly, while it's definitely not even close to being porn it would definitely get an R rating if it were a movie.

It's a good read though, more people should give it a look if only so you can wait, like I am, for it to be completed as you hope that the end is a good ending for the both of them. They've been through some pretty serious poo poo, and not all of it has been resolved really. :( As a straight guy I can't even properly imagine what it must be like to worry about something as huge as coming out to your friends or family, watching Yukino deal with all of that is pretty heart breaking, especially when it reminds me of friends' experiences a bit.


Edit: I somehow posted this when I was still working on it,that's what I get for doing things in multiple tabs at least I managed not to triple-post or something.

a kitten fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Mar 6, 2011

Kusaru
Dec 20, 2006


I'm a Bro-ny!

LightWarden posted:

Maison Ikkoku. Still Rumiko Takahashi's best work.

I can't believe I haven't read it yet, I've been meaning to forever... thanks!

As for what I have read, all I can think of is Honey & Clover, Kimi wa Pet(which I avoided for a long time because of the bizarre premise), and Nodame Cantabile.

Edit: I agree with your stance on Itazura na Kiss, the guy was really annoying. The thing that bugged me most, though, was going from not in a relationship to married in the course of an episode. I thought the girl's progress through the course of the series was pretty good, though.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Despite it not really interesting me at first, I think Good Ending has finally gotten its hooks into me. I'm just past a post heartbreak karaoke scene but I'm sure it will be nothing but rainbows and kittens from here on out right? I mean judging from my other favorite series like: KnT, Aoi Hana, Lovely Complex, Octave, Honey & Clover and Sasameki Koto I can't imagine that it will be anything other than smooth sailing ahead for our group of knuckleheaded protagonists.

...

:smith:


E: The amount of fanservice is a little off putting, just because it doesn't actually contribute anything to the story. I love Octave and that has sex scenes between the characters so it's not some puritanical thing, I just really don't care about seeing random butt or boob shots scattered throughout the storline. It isn't a deal breaker, but it pulls me out of the story.

Dear god, I don't think I, or anyone I know has ever fallen and ended up in some sort of risqué position, but it's happened like 700 times so far and I'm only on chapter 60. Good Ending: the manga where people fall on each other all the time.

a kitten fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Mar 8, 2011

The Black Stones
May 7, 2007

I POSTED WHAT NOW!?

Kusaru posted:

Stories like that are unfortunately common.

Does anyone have suggestions for romance with actual progress involving people past high school?

NANA

But unfortunately, the author stopped due to hospitalization and isn't sure if she'll ever return to drawing even though she's back out.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!
I don't read enough Shoujo manga, but one thing I do like is trash-talking, fighting delinquents with hearts of gold, and I just started reading Hana no Asukagumi. It certainly delivers this. Asuka is pretty badass. :)

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
drat she is pretty much the most badass female character I'e ever seen in anything. And she's got stylin' hair too.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Bunny Drop news! The manga is wrapping up this April 8th, which is kind of a bummer, but hopefully the ending will be as good as the rest has been. This little bit is rather more exciting though.

" Production I.G is producing a television anime version of the manga for Fuji TV's late-night timeslot Noitamina in July."

:dance: So, yeah that's pretty cool.

Yes_Cantaloupe
Feb 28, 2005

DrSunshine posted:

I don't read enough Shoujo manga, but one thing I do like is trash-talking, fighting delinquents with hearts of gold, and I just started reading Hana no Asukagumi. It certainly delivers this. Asuka is pretty badass. :)

This is awesome. It's a shame the 27 (!) volumes that are apparently out there will likely never be fully translated. Not to mention a sequel and what looks like a prequel. A drat shame.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Wow, this was loving terrible. http://www.mangafox.com/manga/skip_beat/v29/c172/1.html

musouka
Apr 24, 2009

Serious Frolicking posted:

Wow, this was loving terrible. http://www.mangafox.com/manga/skip_beat/v29/c172/1.html

Wow, Skip Beat is still going? That series is long past its expiration date, as can be seen by this chapter.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I stopped a couple of months/chapters ago, but really I think the problem with Skip Beat boils down to the main love interest being by far the most uninteresting character. The story was at its best when it was about Kyoko trying to advance her career and her interactions with Shou, but it became bogged down with Ren's asinine mysterious backstory that is apparently The Key To Everything that I find it hard to really care anymore.

musouka
Apr 24, 2009

Nate RFB posted:

I stopped a couple of months/chapters ago, but really I think the problem with Skip Beat boils down to the main love interest being by far the most uninteresting character. The story was at its best when it was about Kyoko trying to advance her career and her interactions with Shou, but it became bogged down with Ren's asinine mysterious backstory that is apparently The Key To Everything that I find it hard to really care anymore.

Ren isn't a terrible character (most of the time, he was pretty drat awful in this chapter) but you're right when you say that he's uninteresting. Shou is at least 90% a terrible person deliberately, which makes the times when he's not terrible more interesting than the times Ren goes into his now cliche "smiling with rage" moment.

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009
Kodansha has finally licensed the Pretty Guardian re-print of the Sailor Moon manga...to itself, but come september, we're getting Bi Monthly Sailor Moon again!

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-03-18/kodansha-usa-to-publish-sailor-v-sailor-moon-manga

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Good Ending 73 and 74 are out. I feel kind of like we need some sort of oncoming train emoticon. :inevitability:
Even though sometimes the way the faces are drawn reminds me of little grey aliens I'm glad that you guys convinced me to take a look at the series, it's been mostly enjoyable. Occasionally it feels a bit too much like "nice guy" wish fulfillment with the way Utsumi constantly seems to have babes flocking around him like geese, but for the most part the characterizations have been pretty good. (it's all going to go horribly wrong isn't it?)

I just ran across a fun and sweet series called Manga no tsukurikata about a couple mangaka who start seeing each other when one of them decides to start to pretend-date her friend who has had a long standing crush on her. It's been a good mix of sweet, funny and wistful so far as well as going into the process of manga creation a little. So I guess it's sort of like Bakuman only with girls...well not quite, really only in the way that it's a romance and is also about making manga, otherwise the storyline is completely different. Despite its pretty silly premise it's a good read.

With that I feel like I've reached the end of the worthwhile romance stuff involving two women, 99% of everything else that I've so much as glanced at is either just porn or the same "onee-sama :swoon:" "oh no, she'll never love me. Oh wait yes she does. end" garbage over and over. I shouldn't be surprised I guess (Sturgeon's Law and all), but since the first romance/non shonen or seinen anime I watched was Sasameki Koto I was tricked into thinking that I might enjoy other things that seemed similar. That's alright though, I did find some good stuff too.

Overall though the series that turned out to be good stand right along side Kimi ni Todoke and Lovely Complex as good romantic and comedic stories. So I can completely recommend the following:
Aoi Hana, Manga no Tsukurikata, Sasimeki Koto, Girl Friends, and Octave . And now I'll probably shut up about yuri or shoujo-ai or whatever is the preferred term, my brief journey of interest in it as a genre has left me somewhere between pretty annoyed and kind of creeped out.

Those five series are all pretty drat good though, so if you're looking for something to read or watch that has all the romance and romantic mishaps that makes things like KnT, LoveCom and GE so enjoyable you should give them a look. Aoi Hana and Sasimeki Koto both have 12 episode animes that I'd recommend watching and then picking up the manga from where they end, since neither is ever going to get a second season you can watch without worrying about a new season popping up that you'd rather watch.

Now for a straight romance question: how is the Skip Beat anime?

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
The anime is probably better than the manga, considering that it actually ended before it had a chance to get terrible.

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nothings
Sep 29, 2008

a kitten posted:

So I can completely recommend the following:
Aoi Hana, Manga no Tsukurikata, Sasimeki Koto, Girl Friends, and Octave .

Thanks for this list. My occasional pokings at shoujo-ai/yuri have (sturgenically, as you suggest) never turned up anything interesting. But I just read through Manga No Tsukurikata and Octave back to back on this recommendation and enjoyed both. I'll have to check out the rest eventually.

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