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Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Sinestro posted:

Mods, please rename it to "Bulldozer - Duke Nukem Forever is coming out before this chip", or if that is too long, abbr. Duke Nukem Forever to DNF.

Thanks.
Only because I love my SH/SC posters.

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Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Verizian posted:

Windows 8 for ARM cpu's will run any 64bit binary that the x86_64 architecture can run
Wait what? Intel said Windows 8 for ARM will not have an emulation layer. Has Microsoft stated otherwise?

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

wicka posted:

So is there any more news about potential Bulldozer performance/release date?
Last I heard, late August for desktop Bulldozer parts. Server chips should be out any day now.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

I updated the thread title to see if there's interest in creating other roadmap discussion threads. NVIDIA's a bit hazy right now, but there's something interesting stuff to talk about for Intel. If it's a terrible idea, feel free to let me know. I figure it's more appropriate than just calling it "The AMD megathread" since that's sorta what it's turned into.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Civil posted:

Are we at the point with desktop software that >2 cores is providing a real performance leap, other than in media encoding?
Properly-optimized PC games finally want a quad, yeah.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

BlackMK4 posted:

Rumors have had release dates for years. :(
It's weird to think about how long we've been reading about Bulldozer. I think it first started getting thrown around in summer 2007, but maybe even earlier than that.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Alereon posted:

Just for anyone wondering, final reviews will be up at 12:01AM Eastern, which is in about an hour.
I can't wait to see this disaster unfold.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

TechSpot: http://www.techspot.com/review/452-amd-bulldozer-fx-cpus/

HardOCP's articles show up on their homepage, but 404 when you try to view them.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

movax posted:

Hopefully the Radeon 7000s own face (heh, we're already back at the 7000 numbering there) and can help keep AMD solvent.
I'm expecting big things from Southern Islands.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Bob Morales posted:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ivy-bridge-processor-release-22nm-3d-transistor,13753.html

Ivy Bridge is coming early. In production now.
Oh poo poo.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Galler posted:

The real tragedy here is that Bulldozer is such an awesome code name and it has been utterly wasted.
Wasted? We had 4 years to talk about this piece of poo poo.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

If I had to guess, we'll see Southern Islands right before CES.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

What an article title from Ars:

AMD's Bulldozer server benchmarks are here, and they're a catastrophe

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

HardOCP readers ask AMD 10 questions about Bullzoder.

It's sad to watch them still trying to spin this.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Daeno posted:

Supposed 7000 series pricing.

Well...on 2 cards at least.
Ooof. Maybe I won't be getting Southern Islands at launch.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

The 7970 is now set to launch on December 22, with the 7950 on January 9 if leaked slides are to be believed.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

The leaked specs look phenomenal, but the 7970 is expected to launch north of $400.

I'm still really tempted to grab one as my Christmas present to myself.

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Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Gorilla Salsa posted:

My budget for a new graphics card was going to be $350-ish, so if the 7970 is within $75 or so of that, I suppose I could justify it to myself.
You'll be waiting for the 7950. 7970 will most likely be $450-500.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Atomicated posted:

Are these likely to bring down prices on current AMD cards in the near future?
Not really, no.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Alereon posted:

The leaked specs for the 7800-series seem to be exactly what I was hoping for, a die-shrunk 6900-series with much lower power consumption (and hopefully great overclocking!).
So it's a shrink of Cayman, not Barts?

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Factory Factory posted:

Per core, Intel parts are faster and more power efficient.
He means that the Xeons are "behind" because they haven't been refreshed to the latest architecture.

Intel usually introduces new architectures in the enterprise market first, but has moved away from that in recent years. I can only assume that's for business reasons.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Back to Southern Islands chat:

new snapshots of the card, as well as performance numbers from a leaked AMD slide. Take the numbers with a grain of salt, since they're certainly "best case scenario" numbers.



Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Lost the graph somehow.

1.6x the performance of a GTX 580 is certainly appealing. :holy:

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Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Agreed posted:

In what way?
They made the vertical axis origin non-zero to make the AMD bars tower over the NVIDIA bars. The AMD bar is at times 4x larger than the NVIDIA bar when that really only represents 1.6x faster.

PR departments are poo poo (especially AMD's). What else is new. That's why I said take it with a grain of salt.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Agreed posted:

Yeah, fair enough, but it's pretty clear if you...can rub a few brain cells together what the actual differences are.
We're talking about gamers here.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Shaocaholica posted:

I would love to see next gen consoles go 64bit just so developers can port over to x86-64 and ditch 32bit builds altogether.
The next consoles won't be x86 anyway so it doesn't matter.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

This looks to be a mostly-complete dump of the reviewer's kit for the 7970.

http://videocardz.com/29950/amd-radeon-hd-7970-benchmarks-gaming-performance

Looks like I'm buying a new video card when I get back from vacation on January 1.

Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Dec 21, 2011

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

I really shouldn't be this excited for a new GPU. :f5:

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5261/amd-radeon-hd-7970-review

edit: So it's a paper launch. gently caress that noise. Expected availability on January 9, so I might as well wait to see how the 7950 turns out.

Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Dec 22, 2011

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Keep in mind that reviewers typically get cherry-picked samples that are known to perform well.

it's still a very impressive overclocking result though. It'll be interesting to see if partners go crazy with it and ship $650 factory overclocked versions if the architecture really has that much headroom.

Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Dec 22, 2011

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

freeforumuser posted:

plus these things are overkill for 99% of us.
I have a 2560x1440 display that I can only drive with a single card, which is a bit of a niche application. I'm heavily considering a 7970 since I can't go dual-GPU.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

I really wish the 7970 would show up on Newegg already. It would certainly help my indecisiveness if I could just impulse-buy one, instead of wondering if Kepler will show up at CES and dash my 7970 dreams.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Autarch Kade posted:

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but apparently at least Sapphire is going to produce 6GB 7970s of the Eyefinity6 variety.

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I'm still trying to wrap my head around a 44% factory overclock. :drat:

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

7970s are on Newegg, almost all out of stock already. :(

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Cross-post from the parts-picking:

Sapphire and VisionTek 7970s are on Amazon right now. I just snagged one with next-day delivery. :dance:

I can't wait to try to cram it into a mini-ITX box.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

[H]ardOCP (I know, I know) just posted an article looking at 7970 overclocking.

edit: they hit 1260 on the core and 6.9GHz memory on a reference board with some voltage tweaking. That seems insane to me.

Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Jan 9, 2012

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Longinus00 posted:

When's the last time ATI/AMD has been "on top" anyway? The only thing that would be surprising is if Nvidia was able to price match ATI/AMDs top card.
Define on top. Do you mean having the single fastest GPU, best overall architecture, best bang/buck?

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

What's baffling to me is that there were basically no custom 7970s at CES. AMD must have really rushed this launch if partners are so far behind. I really want to see custom cards after seeing how far my reference design goes with overclocking.

Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jan 20, 2012

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

syzygy86 posted:

Since nothing was shown at CES, think it'll be a while before the other manufactures will have their custom coolers?
Maybe at CeBit in the first week of March?

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Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

grumperfish posted:

Oldblivion (highly unstable shader hack)
Holy poo poo.

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